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All Forum Posts by: Larry Fried

Larry Fried has started 43 posts and replied 3664 times.

Post: Ashcroft capital: Additional 20% capital call

Larry FriedPosted
  • Investor/RE Broker
  • Eugene, OR
  • Posts 3,825
  • Votes 968
Quote from @Jon Zhou:

After many of the Ashcroft capital syndications paused distributions, I get this surprise email this morning saying all LP investors need to pay additional 19.7% of invested capital call  

anyone have experience with capital calls and syndications? Is there ever a position outcome to these or are we putting more money into a failing syndication?

“Thank you for your patience as we continue to navigate our way through this current economic cycle and unprecedented time in the capital markets. We recognize that this email contains a substantial amount of information, which is why a member of our Investor Relations team will be contacting you shortly to address any questions.

We need to solve for three major factors as it pertains to Elliot Roswell:

  1. Allow the multifamily market time to stabilize.
  2. Meet liquidity needs for the rate cap, capital expenditures and unexpectedly high debt payments.
  3. Resume renovations which have been temporarily paused.

How do we achieve this?

Based on feedback from our existing lender, other potential partners, and the significant capital requirements to potentially buy down the loan to refinance, we determined the best path forward is a successful LP capital call of 19.7%. This will allow us to maintain flexibility to potentially sell the property within 24 months.

This is Ashcroft’s first capital call, and while it’s regrettable to take this step, our primary focus remains safeguarding your investment. Therefore, all LPs must participate 

Elliot Roswell is a strong asset that is poised for a strong rebound in value as markets improve. This is due to the property’s institutional quality and the continued growth within the Atlanta market. Moreover, demand and absorption rates are currently at 25-year highs and are continuing to trend in that direction with a 70% reduction in new construction permits and drop off in deliveries in early 2025.

We will maintain flexibility to sell Elliot Roswell as markets improve and anticipate doing so within the next 24 months. In the meantime, we need to cover rate caps costs and resume renovations so that we are best positioned to maximize your potential return.

Why is a capital call necessary?

  • Preserving Capital: If this capital call is not successful, we will have to sell Elliot Roswell in an inopportune market. This would result in selling the asset below our basis and incurring a significant loss of LP-invested equity. Specifically, if forced to sell now it would be a total loss of capital for both Class A and Class B.
  • Replacing Rate Caps: Our rate cap is expiring this year, and the projected replacement cost is $736k.
  • Resuming Renovations: Given rising inflation and labor costs, our capital expenditure exceeded initial underwriting. This prompted a temporary pause to renovations. However, resuming renovations is essential to increasing revenue, and a capital infusion allows us to resume both interior and exterior renovations. We will consistently evaluate the cost vs. benefit, adjusting the renovation scope as necessary.
  • Maintaining Lender Requirements & Loan Covenants: We (Joe & Frank) will consistently support you and our other investors through both favorable and challenging times. We’ve already extended a $2.9M interest-free short-term loan to cover various unexpected expenses, including the replacement rate cap over the past 12 months. While this was meant as a temporary solution, it must be repaid promptly to maintain compliance with loan agreements and ens
Jon, I have received a few capital calls this year from the dozens of syndications I've invested in.  None have been mandatory, unlike yours from Ashcroft. Thus, I was able to evaluate whether to put more of my capital in or not.  I only did so on one investment. I know another of my investments, the first to put out a capital call, only raised 11% of the call, and they are now in a forced sale situation.  They will almost certainly lose all LP capital, including mine.  That is painful enough. But at least I didn't add to the loss by participating in the capital call.
Your mandatory call may turn out to be the saving grace of the investment, as they should raise 100% of the call.  As long as the market improves enough over the added time of the rate cap extension, etc. you could be fine.  Only time will tell.  

Post: List of Syndicators/GPs to AVOID?

Larry FriedPosted
  • Investor/RE Broker
  • Eugene, OR
  • Posts 3,825
  • Votes 968
Quote from @Frank Sichelle:

No one wants to name names and understandably so. I think any list of bad sponsors needs to be broken down into two categories: 1) Inexperienced sponsors that got caught up in a rising interest rate environment, and 2) Bad sponsors that are either acting malicious and/or greedy.

There are many many many sponsors, particularly those on BP and raising capital on social media, that fall within the first category.

Category #1 - Inexperienced Sponsors:

Ashcroft, Opendoor, Elevate, Western Wealth, Tides, ZMR, GVA

Category #2 - Malicious/Greedy sponsors:

Appleway, Nitya, Rise48, any "fund of fund" sponsor that's come out of Rise 48, Grant Cardone, Affinity, Nightingdale, Rockstar Capital

This is just a short list but I think it's important to protect LPs. The wall street oasis community does a good job at calling out the terrible sponsors. https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/real-estate/mf-syndica...


 As an LP in several Rise48 deals, I am very interested as to what you are basing your putting Rise48 in Category 2?  

Post: Anyone work with Simm Capital Group?

Larry FriedPosted
  • Investor/RE Broker
  • Eugene, OR
  • Posts 3,825
  • Votes 968

No experience with them, but following.

Post: Newbie to syndication

Larry FriedPosted
  • Investor/RE Broker
  • Eugene, OR
  • Posts 3,825
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Quote from @Penny Peng:

Hi BiggerPockets community,

I just started my research into real estate syndication as an investment vehicle for passive investors. My goal is to learn as much as I can from all the pros in the community and make my first deal within a year. I’m super excited to start the journey. Would love to hear all the tips and suggestions!! 

Pennies 


 Hey Penny,

You can follow my 8 year+ LP syndication journey with one particular platform in my 4 BP blog series
Have I Found the Holy Grail of Passive Real Estate Investing? 
which is Part 1 or skip to my quarterly updated 
(Part 4)




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Post: Passive Blog Update posted on Syndication Investments

Larry FriedPosted
  • Investor/RE Broker
  • Eugene, OR
  • Posts 3,825
  • Votes 968

Hi @Josiah B., I sent that info to your Inbox. I encourage you to read my blog articles to get a comprehensive long term view of my experience with the company.  I do invest with other syndicators as well.

Post: It's so awesome to be here!

Larry FriedPosted
  • Investor/RE Broker
  • Eugene, OR
  • Posts 3,825
  • Votes 968

Hi Myriad,

Welcome to BP & the world of REI. I have lived in Eugene for 17 years, and it is a great place to be. I've been investing in RE since 2012 in a variety of ways, as well as working with other RE investors since 2014. I am happy to discuss your strategy.

Post: How do I find Syndications?

Larry FriedPosted
  • Investor/RE Broker
  • Eugene, OR
  • Posts 3,825
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Quote from @Charles Burgess:

Don't know if I'm breaking the rules by posting this, but how do I find syndications to invest in?  My wife and I are looking for passive ways to invest to diversify our real estate holdings.  I've tried your basic google search, but that hasn't produced much luck.  Thanks for your feedback. 

 Charles, I started investing in syndications some7-8 years ago with a particular crowdfunding company.  I have been documenting my experience and returns with this company shortly after I started with them, right here on BP.  You might find it helpful to read some or all of my journey in my 4 part blog series, that I update quarterly in (Part 4). The journey starts with
Have I Found the Holy Grail of Passive Real Estate Investing?

Post: 2 Capital calls in 2 weeks! Ouch

Larry FriedPosted
  • Investor/RE Broker
  • Eugene, OR
  • Posts 3,825
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Quote from @Solomon Rosenberg:

Within the past 2 weeks I got 2 capital calls from different sponsors, I'm assuming that there are many deals in similar situations.

The sponsors are saying, If they have enough capital to bring occupancy to 90% they will have better options to refinance or sell. That's true, however what if they can't deliver on the occupancy in a short period.

They say it's not a good market to sell now. True again, but what if interest rates stay volatile for longer than expected, and the market stays locked up longer.

Meanwhile the property is bleeding 6 figures monthly, and the added capital will only go so far, unless there is a major change in the interest rates soon, and that doesn't seem likely.

They also say if we don't infuse more capital we may lose our principle too, as they will be forced to sell at a loss. That is possible, but this may end up happening anyway.

So, what's the call? Do I put more money into these deals, or do I accept a dilution of my shares and put my money elsewhere?

Here is the thing - our brains are wired to be more sensitive to a loss compared to the possibility of even a much larger gain and we are biased to try and stop a loss.

I think I need to take a step back and think about this like it's a totally new deal, and I have no stake in it, would I invest in this deal now based on all the facts?

What do you think?


 I think your final full paragraph is right on the money.  I similarly had my first capital call. And this is exactly how I thought of it.  Although they offered an incentive (larger split) to those LPs who participated, I declined because I did not have the confidence in this particular deal or Sponsor that they would pull it through for a profit.  I decided I best put my funds in something I felt good about, not increase my risk with a sour deal. 

Post: Stepping Stone into Syndications?

Larry FriedPosted
  • Investor/RE Broker
  • Eugene, OR
  • Posts 3,825
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Quote from @Heather Manning:

Larry, your blog series is amazing!  Thank you!  I would appreciate it if you DM me the company name.  Thanks again!

Heather


 Thanks Heather.  Done.

Post: Stepping Stone into Syndications?

Larry FriedPosted
  • Investor/RE Broker
  • Eugene, OR
  • Posts 3,825
  • Votes 968

John, I recommend you read my blog series.  It will answer most if not all your questions.