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All Forum Posts by: David Moore

David Moore has started 39 posts and replied 471 times.

Post: Best time of year to buy - Rehabbing in extreme climate cities

David MoorePosted
  • Investor
  • Crystal, MN
  • Posts 485
  • Votes 277
Originally posted by @David Krulac:

@Ardie Mansouri 

I've said before, in the cold winter areas, that the worst time to sell a house is Thanksgiving to Super Bowl.  Its cold, its snow & ice, its dark at 5PM, people are thinking of the holidays, spending money on gifts, and just plain are not interested in buying houses.

But its a great time to buy houses because the competition is taking a break.

It is when I'm buying.  Totally agree. 

Post: Denying a potential tenant

David MoorePosted
  • Investor
  • Crystal, MN
  • Posts 485
  • Votes 277
Originally posted by @Dick Rosen:

If multiple applicants qualify equally you must accept the first one in and completed. And tell the rest that this is how it was done.

You must?  Cite the law you are referencing?

Hello Again,

Woah!  The numbers out of Rochester are sizzling.  Check out realtor.com, and the housing market has about 600 homes for sale, with 1000 pus sold recently.  That is a hot housing market.   Still, there are some that have sold sub 50K.  Those were likely bank owned.

I like your term 'halfway decent'.  It means you are assessing the condition of the property.  No need buying an extreme junker that you put 35 K into, just to have a 115 year old house in the middle of similar, run down homes in a neighborhood. 

I have a possible solution.  Look at smaller towns around Rochester.  Now, it is a different school district, I grant you, but not all buyers have kids.  Pine Island is within 15 miles of Rochester, and has an average home price of $115K.  Now, I know nothing about Pine Island, so you need to do due diligence.  I have renters in Albert Lea who drive 15-20 miles to work, no big deal.

Also, since you are in Rochester, check out MBT bank for finding a good community lender.  I buy all my properties through MBT.  They are a portfolio lender.  They do not resell their mortgages to FNMA, so you can have many properties financed with them.  I like them. 

Oh, and Jeremy, don't give up, and don't hurry.  Oh, and one more thing.  Investors in my home market all buy in the Spring.  I've had good leads that vanished because in Albert Lea, spring is when they buy (and pay way, way too much.....will they learn?).   But I've found no competition in later summer, and very little competition in winter. 

Jeremy,

I find amazing deals in Southern Minnesota, and you can get them right off the good old MLS. I live in the metro, and am a member of MN REIA, and I suggest you consider investing in Rochester. Talk about growth potential. The Mayo addition is going to impact housing, so demand in Rochester should lead to some housing market dynamics that work in your favor.

I am not a flipper....strictly buy and hold.  I suggest you check out J Scott's site, 1-2-3 Flip, and also his  book on house flipping.  I actually found my target area for investing using his ideas.  

Flipping is about building a team. Even in buy and hold, I have a team. But one last thing...how you define a great deal should be considered carefully. Great deals are in the eye of the beholder. For buy and hold, I try to get 18% cash on cash investment, or get properties that rent at or near 2% of purchase price. Bank owned and HUD's will light the way...still many of them out there. Some on bigger pockets members love a 1% rent to purchase price, and in their market, that can be a huge payday.

Post: HUD wants key back after closing

David MoorePosted
  • Investor
  • Crystal, MN
  • Posts 485
  • Votes 277

@Randy King 

 @Jon Holdman 

I have to ask, because I've never done HUD previously. So just change out the door handle and deadbolt locks....straight and simple, right? Better than a locksmith?

Post: HUD wants key back after closing

David MoorePosted
  • Investor
  • Crystal, MN
  • Posts 485
  • Votes 277

I need to ask the group if they have encountered HUD stating they need the buyer to re-key a property after close. I just got word from my realtor they intend to collect the key. Do I have to do this? I'll own the property on Monday, and you know I'm getting the key.

Does it mean I hire a locksmith to re-key the property, or do they go more drastic than that?  Anyone come across this before?

Post: Informal meet-up in Tacoma, WA...Calling all interested parties

David MoorePosted
  • Investor
  • Crystal, MN
  • Posts 485
  • Votes 277
Originally posted by @Andrew Kniffin:

Hello all.  I am moving from Minnesota to Seattle next Thursday, and so this would be a great event for me to get to know some of the BP'ers in the new area.  Please invite me also, if it's not too late. 

You will stay a Viking fan though, right? 

Post: The 2% rule kills values

David MoorePosted
  • Investor
  • Crystal, MN
  • Posts 485
  • Votes 277
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

@David Moore 

  The point of the thread is not if you can find a 2% rule property,, of course you can any one can they are out there by the thousands...actually hundred of thousands.

My contention is that with this metric being a guide line and in investor heavy markets price's will not rise when the enlightened use this rule for backing into purchase prices. It will hold values down.. and especially as it relates to mid west and south east were there are a predominance of rental properties compared to other areas of the country.

then you tag that on to those that live in markets were the 2% rule for all intense and purposes does not exist, the buyers get frustrated because they think is not a good deal if they can't hit that  metric.. they then end up look far afield and taking risks they don't realize they took when they buy in areas were by the time the wholesaler the marketing company PM contractors and in some case's TK operators have all taken their cut.. they end up with a property in a pretty tough part of town that on paper gets 2% but reality is another story.. This is why the top echelon  TK operators chimed in on the thread and were talking that 1% was more in line with market and would in their opinons keep the west coast investor in a better asset class with more reliable cash flow.. There is no arguing that the lower end rentals in ANY market are management intensive and have sporadic performance at best.

I certainly don't question your experience.  My experience....my 2% properties are a breeze. 

Post: The 2% rule kills values

David MoorePosted
  • Investor
  • Crystal, MN
  • Posts 485
  • Votes 277
Originally posted by @Matthew L.:
Originally posted by @J Scott:

-  I'm better at finding good deals than you

-  I'm better at negotiating prices with sellers than you

-  I'm better at keeping rehab costs down than you

-  I'm more efficient at management than you

Time to grab some popcorn!

I have no problem with any of  these statements.  Read J Scott's blog and his books.  The guy helped me find my backyard.  I am seeking to know everything about it, and it is netting me near 2% cashflows. 

Post: The 2% rule kills values

David MoorePosted
  • Investor
  • Crystal, MN
  • Posts 485
  • Votes 277

Just for the record, I'm getting just shy of 2% on the deal I am closing this month.  To those saying 2% is outdated, I say, consider at least finding something else to invest in.  Because when prices exceed rents, that is a frothy market.  I go for the Buffet rule and look for investments I understand.  Real Estate is not the only investment out there.