All Forum Posts by: Ryan Watson

developers in these parts have to help pay to build new schools for everything they develop. apparently they dont do it in either of your two states. i'm trying to give you guys the benifit of the doubt to justify your ridiculous building practices you call "density".

I still yet to get an answer on what kind of stipulations go down between a developer and the local school districts needs? Alot of large neighborhoods have schools nestled in the middle of them.

I'm learning from this thread pretty good. Its taught me some things and confirmed things i havnt quite put my finger on untill now. So what type of deal does a developer reach with a township to meet the future school requirements? Is it a meet in the middle type thing between developer and township or a percentage of what a new school would cost to build?

The Union Carpenters statement was just to reference my sources are qualified, - yea when you stop laughing at that statement, there are good workers out there that dont want to work for penuts, just like how you feel about developers being on the hot plate with the gov. I know others that agree, that are not in construction work at all. These developments i have in mind didnt have anything to do with union workers. Most of them were fly by night contractors and illegals. That statement speaks for the majority of the countries development work. Since we're on the subject if a union guy gets to drive 45 minutes to a construction site and he shows up, and gets rained out, never gets out of his truck. He gets paid 2 hours. If that guy was non union, he just wasted time and gas for that day so I wouldnt bash unions too hard.

J Scott - my example is hyperthetical. If you want a place to start go read up on the floods in tipton county, indiana from last month. As wide spread as the damage was up in the millions FEMA said they didnt qualify. Read for yourself. Theres some homeowners thats going to have to eat that. if you got a big plot thats pretty much all the value you can get out of it if the structures are crumbling from being water logged. The example can go for anything thats not covered by insurance.

Sounds like to me developers like to do alot of bitching too. They bring people to areas where there isnt normally that many or type of people (trashy getto folk). So now their schools that was borderline crowded are now overcrowded. With use it or loose it budgets that are borderline sufficient/insufficient, something has to give. They can barely afford their teachers, let alone new facilities. Then they want to complain about getting the shaft in threads just like this. LOL

@Bryan Hancock
I'll have my day, and risk my money. This fuels my ideas to start new trends. This thread has been good, and what better place than to bring it to the people do it on a regular basis. I'll pass on talking to those people. If they've moved in then its obviously what they wanted, or what the husband settled for to avoid divorce. Better luck on the next time around with a new development. If my opinions change, ill be the first to point it out. I tend to be pretty honest and stay open minded for it. Meanwhile ill just turn my head and laugh.

nope, however i know people who do. Union Carpenters, all of which agree on this same issue and hate seeing this practice as much as I do.

Thats fine if thats what they want. Lets hope the majority of people dont think thats the only thing they can afford. That whole neighbor security thing you mention sounds like a sheepish mentality to me but if thats what they want then fine.

Most people dont think about in case of a disaster, your home was destroyed and insurance wont cover it, nor will FEMA. Once all that mess is done and you decide to sell your property and move on, thats the only money you can get out of it after loosing everything. Back to that part Karen was talking about with nobody being able to afford a home anymore, thats becasue they got to get up and go to work 5, 6, or 7 days a week to make it happen. Sometimes 2 jobs, theres no place for much of a life there. Those are the people i have in mind with this thread. Not those that think its another random object, and they can have a few to wheel and deal on.

First off, google earth is just a referance to get others envolved in the discussion. I have quite wide views of the world thank you very much, thats why i made this thread. The tone was set by design for a good friendly debate, with a little heat. Not enough to burn. LOL

Okay so you just confirmed that the majority of society cant carry themselves like they did years ago. Every person has the potential to break that cycle of poverty. You're right people do rent for different reasons. There are people out there that cant take responsibility for themselves hence why people cant buy homes anymore.. atleast what i would call a home. All im trying to do is spark the idea. This is not my problem, i can politely look the other direction while i do my thing. There are innovators watching this forum, just because you want to get mad about this thread today doesnt mean somebody 15 years from now wont take this into account and do something about it. Handle the situation. If you cant crunch the numbers and loose some of the density then you dont do it. Its that simple. We need to keep the standards high.

When you have them terminate the utilities, make sure its done outside of the right of way on your property. That way if you ever have to hook them back up to new construction, you wont need a ROW permit to dig the lines back up.

What your talking about makes sense given the area. This entire thread is geared towards those big time developers, like X.X. Morgan in indiana. When they got a shop making houses that range from 120 to 160, using whole boards to build the walls, then turn around and take all the cut scraps and glue them back together to make homes ranging from 85 to 120. Then they buy a 150 acre corn field on the outskirts of the city limits and put these houses on it. Doesnt that seem a little unethical? I didnt factor in that with all the development that there was a new elementary school built in the area. How much of that burden comes back on the developers? If its quite a bit i could understand density a little better.

The funny thing is rob, its the opposite. The ones closer together actually cost more in the area.

I wonder if the insurance would be higher as well?

I never did use any direct name calling toward members? As far as the rest of it thats just how i like to get my point across. I'm the last one that likes to see big brother regulations but if its for the common good then have at it. When builders market a product thats a rip off and putting others in danger due to close proximity, something should be done. So many people conform and think inside the box and they dont process these kinds of stipulations untill something happens.

The apartment referances are pretty much off topic for this thread, they have a place like i said before. When we are talking about a house, something americans shape their life around to aquire, that changes the ball game. To some people that started late on retirement, this is their only wealth. I dont see how they would hold value, they are nothing more than over priced lemons.