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All Forum Posts by: Jim S.

Jim S. has started 10 posts and replied 119 times.

Post: Is there any profit left

Jim S.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Denver
  • Posts 121
  • Votes 121

I'm still at the mom & pop level - only have 3 properties (1 of which is under contract). I'm buying a live-in flip/house hack right now so on that property I'll be doing what you do (as much as I can DIY). I'm only going to do that until I move into a new property however and then rent that one out via a property manager.

My other two properties were bought sight unseen just based on the numbers and figured I'd use the inspection as a $400 option on the property. My 3-unit apt building I've never even visited - property manager handles everything including dealing with a contractor coming in Monday for some repairs. Both are cashflowing, the triplex is a 30% cash on cash return 3 months in. ($30k into it, 1k/mo cashflow incl property mgr).

I only want to put my own time into a properties that I'll be living in myself (for some period of time) and will have some fun figuring out how to fix everything up myself. I don't even want to visit any true "investment properties" which I buy out of state - this forces me to build a team & processes to manage everything for me while baking those costs into any deal I do.

My goal is to buy 2 buy & hold properties per year, that strategy won't scale if I need to be fixing everything myself. At any one point I want to have 1 property I'm messing with personally, and every other property whether that's 2 or 20 should be fully managed by others.

Post: Has anyone found a way to pay their mortgage with a miles card?

Jim S.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Denver
  • Posts 121
  • Votes 121

The processing fees you get charged by Plastiq, Tio, etc. will be worse than the rewards you gain typically. Typical fees are ~3%, typical rewards on something like this will be 1 mile (i.e. 1.5 cents) so you're losing 1.5% per transaction.

The important exception is on the sign-up bonuses like the 50k miles offer for chase sapphire preferred (equal to ~$700 in travel). It's well worth it to pay some big bills & the CC processing fees to get these offers. 

Just gotta watch to not do it too often - my credit score is probably a few points lower than it would be if I hadn't been scooping up bonuses the past 2 years. Long term probably good for my credit though as I have 6 figures of revolving credit from multiple sources with ~1-2% utilization at any time (balances always paid in full at end of the month).

Post: What you do with $20,000

Jim S.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Denver
  • Posts 121
  • Votes 121

I'll add to the chorus - you should use it for a house hack. Either look for a multi-family FHA opportunity or if you have solid credit try to get a 5% down no PMI mortgage on a SFR through fannie's HomeReady program (a good lender can help you with this).

Going through this process myself right now so I'll give you a quick rundown on some actual numbers.

The property: Older, cosmetically outdated but perfect structurally. $300k purchase price, 5bd/2ba in Denver - area with a lot of new houses being built that's a 10-15 min drive to downtown & near light rail. 

I plan to live in it for a year or two while I fix it up - I'm not handy but I'm good at watching YouTube to figure out how to do stuff. Should be able to rent it by the room while I live there for ~$650/room. 

My PITI comes to ~$1500/mo total:

4.125% @ 5% down, no PMI

Taxes: $632/yr

Insurance: $684/yr

Total cash outlay to purchase: $17,500

I expect even with only 3 renters (keep 1 room unoccupied) I'd get ~$1950 which means I live free while cashflowing and have an asset I expect to appreciate significantly. If I feel like bumping up my earnings I could stick another person in there and bring that up to ~$2400 rent/mo while living for free.

When I move into my next house hack I'll be able to rent it such that it cashflows as well and repeat the process. If I refinance in a couple years I'll more than get my initial downpayment back from it. If you can find an MFR in your price range you'll probably make out even better than me, SFRs usually have tighter margins.

(note: there are other expenses like maint, capex, utilities, vacancy, etc. not listed above that should also be considered)

Post: Starting REI with low income, high capital

Jim S.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Denver
  • Posts 121
  • Votes 121
Originally posted by @Jennifer Ward:

Hey @Jim S., Im a semi newbie in REI located in Denver and interested to do the same thing you are, invest out of state. I am sure this is a very newbie question but what does OOS mean? Also, do you attend any of the meetups in Denver?

Hey Jennifer - I was going to go to the "Bad *** REI" meetup on Monday but ended up skipping it. In general I plan to start going to some of these local meetups.

Yep, I meant "out of state" - let me know if you have any questions on the process or want some data on potential areas to buy in (I have a spreadsheet w/ Zillow data I use). I've been through OOS twice now and am about to close on a property here in Denver as a SFR house hack as well.

Post: Starting REI with low income, high capital

Jim S.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Denver
  • Posts 121
  • Votes 121

Honestly I think you're looking in the wrong state @Rory Kinnear. When I was in California I decided real estate prices were too expensive (impossible to cashflow with a high LTV) and bought in CO (which only a few years ago was far cheaper!)

Now that I'm in Denver it's hard to find cashflowing properties with low % down so I'm planning to put most of my capital (aside from house hacks) towards out of state investments. In my case I grew in upstate NY so I'm familiar with Albany, Binghamton, Rochester, etc. but there are deals to be had in many cities right now (KC, Buffalo, Houston, Cleveland, etc.)

For out-of-state investing there are basically two paths:

1) Lower return/easier - invest using an established turnkey company such as the ones listed on Jay Hinrich's site. They'll handle renovations, property management, etc. You just sign the check and you'll have a cashflowing property. The downside is that if they do most of the work your returns will reflect that. You will, however, probably still get better returns than the stock market.

2) If you want higher returns then find a real estate agent familiar with investment properties and start shopping in an OOS market (find a good one by looking through Zillow Research data). Make sure to start hunting for a property manager at the same time so that as you start to acquire properties you'll have somebody to professionally manage it. This is the route I'm taking at the moment - but it's not a "passive" investment, I'm actively managing my managers & various projects remotely. You'll need to be the orchestrator if you go this route.

Given that you don't have much disposable monthly income you should be looking for ways to increase that your income as your top priority. That will come from high cashflowing areas like the midwest, not appreciation markets like LA, SF, NYC, etc.

Post: Renting by the room - Insurance?

Jim S.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Denver
  • Posts 121
  • Votes 121

@Drew Fein - It's technically a "Denver, CO" mailing address but it's in Adams County so I assume I fall into the "unincorporated" bucket. The place is >2k sq ft so I have the 300ft/person requirement met without issues. 

Might end up doing only 4 anyway just to keep things simple with bathrooms (2 per).

Thanks Tyler!

Post: Renting by the room - Insurance?

Jim S.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Denver
  • Posts 121
  • Votes 121
Originally posted by @Tyler Giering:

@Jim S. I just added on to my homeowners policy. I reported the number of renters and I don't believe my premium even increased. If you feel you need more liability coverage you could probably get an umbrella policy in addition to your homeowners, they are cheap.

Just an heads-up Denver only allows two unrelated persons in a single family home. Other surrounding cities like Aurora, Westminster, Lakewood and Arvada allow more unrelated persons. 

Awesome, thanks Tyler! Do you mind sharing which carrier you use? I talked to Geico + Progressive and they both wouldn't underwrite it so now I'm looking to the independents.

It's in Adams County so I should be good as far as I can tell (somewhat hard to find regulations specifically for it - reaching out to the county) 

Post: Renting by the room - Insurance?

Jim S.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Denver
  • Posts 121
  • Votes 121

I'm in the process of purchasing a 5bd/2ba in Denver as a primary residence. As an individual I obviously don't need all 5 beds so I'm planning to rent out 4 of them to other young professionals in Denver.

Does anyone have experience with the insurance requirements for this? I know that a typical homeowners policy won't cover liability, etc. for this scenario so I'm curious whether people ended up buying. 

It looks like the two main avenues are an add-on to existing homeowners policies or getting a separate landlord policy.

Would love to hear from some people that have rented by the room

Post: Anyone else paying down mortgages rather than buying now?

Jim S.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Denver
  • Posts 121
  • Votes 121
There's no situation in which I'd put additional money towards my mortgage. That's a 4% ROI, I'd sooner put it in stocks if I couldn't find a deal (which is usually what I do in their interim via Betterment). Keep looking and as others have said find a property that needs work. Got outbid on a property that was priced @ 285, offered 300, winning bid was 330k with no contingencies. No chance it appraises over $305k. Glad it fell through as I ended up finding a 5bd/2ba in an appreciating area of Denver for the same price. Great shape structurally, half the normal going rate on PSF, will end up being a far better investment after I update it. $300k price, ARV 400+ after 50k in rehab costs.

Post: Any SF landlord gurus

Jim S.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Denver
  • Posts 121
  • Votes 121
How old is your building? If it was built in 1979 or earlier then it will almost certainly be subject to rent control. Read the SF Tenant's Union website - it describes tenants' rights within the city in plain English. SF is one of the most regulation heavy rental markets, might be helpful to hire a lawyer to help you draft your first leases/ensure you're compliant with all the landlord laws.