Quote from @Dan N.:
I just got a quote from a conventional lender for 7.75% with a 2.5 point buy down.
When I asked what would be the rate without a point buy down, they said:
" There are no par (rates with no point cost) rates for investment properties currently."
Is this true? I would mainly like to hear only from people who have received conventional loan quotes within the last 30 days.
Thank you
Hello Dan,
So it depends. Your loan pricing options depend on things like your debt to income, your FICO, downpayment amount, loan amount and then well, the type of loan program(FHA/Conventional/). At par= no lender credits and no buy down points. Below par= you pay points to get a lower rate. Usually you can't buy rate down more than 2pts. Above par= you take a higher than par rate with a higher monthly payment but you get some lender credits towards closing costs.
So it's a combination of your financials + the lender's pricing as of the day. Loan pricing changes numerous times a day. I have had pricing options bad in the morning and then good in the afternoon so it could be the pricing as of when you get the options from the client.
Also, how much are you putting down? It's likely with a lower downpayment, you may not have conventional par pricing options. If you want no buydown point options, obviously it depends on your financials(FICO, DTI, downpayment amount, zipcode, etc) but you should contact other lenders for their loan pricing. You may or may not have at par pricing. Also ask a broker for if they do borrower paid compensation loan option for your loan. That will increase your chances of seeing pricing with at par options(still nothing guaranteed). Keep in mind: even if you see pricing you like, unlike you apply with that lender and the lender locks your rate, rates change multiple times every day