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All Forum Posts by: Demetrius Harrell

Demetrius Harrell has started 3 posts and replied 29 times.

Post: Wedding & Event Venue

Demetrius HarrellPosted
  • Investor
  • Georgia - Loganville
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 21

Hey David, 

I own an event venue (Encaptivating Events) and have been in operation for almost 2 years and I am a part of a large group of event spaces owners. What general questions do you have about building/operating and event venue?

Feel free to send me a direct message.

Post: Event Rental Space In Idaho - Best Practices, Things To Read, etc

Demetrius HarrellPosted
  • Investor
  • Georgia - Loganville
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 21

Hey Vaughn, 

My event space is 2400 sqft based on size you have a good size venue to start off with.

Websites: It will be hard to find a good website, or books.

You can find some videos on YouTube but more people in the event space industry sell courses to get access to the information.

Where should you market your event space:

This varies so you should try a few different ones and find which ones work best for you.

These are some that I use. THIS IS NOT AN EXTENSIVE LIST these are just enough to get you going:

Google my business (FREE)

Google Ads (Paid)

Eventective (Paid)

Event UP(Paid)

Peerspace (Takes a percentage of your booking but FREE to list your event Space)

Splacer (Have not used yet but currently setting up my profile)

Yelp (FREE)

Gigster (FREE to list you event space)

Facebook market place (FREE)

Instagram (FREE)

LinkedIN(FREE)

Your local Chamber of commerce

Partnerships with local planners

I do not know your exact area in Idaho so I cannot give a definitive comment on your pricing but $250 is typically what you would pay for a community center which is different from a dedicated event space.

You also have to factor in cleaning your venue which can take about 2 to 3 hours if doing it yourself so you should price that into your rental price.

Also, with a price point that low, yes, it is accessible to more people but you open yourself up to more people that will not respect your event space and would be more prone to damage the building potentially.

Because you have a full kitchen and bar you could operate it as a ghost kitchen. You could also rent it as a production space, meeting space, co-working space, etc.

Given that you are not looking for a lot of business but just a little bit of extra cash flow doing one (1) rental per day is easy for 1 person to manage so I would not worry about attempting to have 2 events per day so maximize profits.

As for add-ons that will be based on the quality of product you provide and what the going rates are in your area. For example, I include a Bluetooth sound system and upgraded chairs but I charge to rent my projector and screen but some of the other venues in my area include a projector but charge for upgraded chairs. You will have to play around to find out what works best for your market.

If you will be running it as a business it would be best to get your business license for it. Alcohol laws vary state to state and city to city so since I am not in your state I cannot give a set comment on that but typically you will have to have a licensed bartender onsite which is also good for you for insurance purposes.

You can get a $2 million dollar insurance policy for the entire year for around $1000 it would be better for your peace of mind to get it for the entire year.

Post: First rental property... I am nervous!

Demetrius HarrellPosted
  • Investor
  • Georgia - Loganville
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 21

Thank you everyone for the advice and encouragement. I am going to do my homework and I will keep you updated on how it goes.

Post: First rental property... I am nervous!

Demetrius HarrellPosted
  • Investor
  • Georgia - Loganville
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 21
Quote from @Galen Ikonomov:

$400 a month profit? So, what are you nervous about? 

Finding a good property manager (How to interview them/ what should I expect/ watch out for)

I would prefer to self manage to start but not knowing how to properly/legally screen tenants is a tad overwhelming.

Post: First rental property... I am nervous!

Demetrius HarrellPosted
  • Investor
  • Georgia - Loganville
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 21
Quote from @John Underwood:

No better way to learn than to manage it yourself.

Screen tenants and get highly qualified ones. 

Find a great local handyman.

Find a great local HVAC guy.

Setup a way for the tenants to easy pay you rent every month. Zelle and PayPal are good options for a few properties. 

Then sit back on auto pilot and watch the money come in.

If there is a repair that needs to be made you text it to your handyman and he handles it.

Easy Peazy.

I would like to self manage to start so I can understand and know how to set my expectations of a property manager.

my father-in-law has is own HVAC company so I am covered there and between my father who has experience building homes and me being generally handy minor (non-electrical) repairs we can handle but I do have connections to licensed electricians because of my job.

I am just nervous about screening tenants myself since I have never done that I am not sure where to start, including well written rental contracts.

Post: First rental property... I am nervous!

Demetrius HarrellPosted
  • Investor
  • Georgia - Loganville
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 21
Quote from @Nate Sanow:

Just so I follow. You already own it, correct? Is the debate on if you will sell it as a flip vs rent? 


It used to be my in-laws primary residence (4 bed, 2 and half bath) until the just recently moved and they are leaving the property to me and my wife to manage. After running the rental comps in the area and taking into account (mortgage + insurance, CapEx, Maintenance, Vacancy, property manager) expenses on the property on the low end should be about $400 per month in profit.

Post: First rental property... I am nervous!

Demetrius HarrellPosted
  • Investor
  • Georgia - Loganville
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 21

I have property in Conyers, Georgia that I would like to rent out but I am nervous and it has overwhelmed me a little bit. I appreciate some advice and recommendations for properties managers in or near the Conyers area.

Post: Do you allow events such as weddings?

Demetrius HarrellPosted
  • Investor
  • Georgia - Loganville
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 21
Quote from @John Underwood:
Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:

@John Underwood Do you want to do weddings and larger venues?


 Maybe. I'd want to make more money off them if I do.


 There is a lot of potential to make more smaller wedding venues charge $4000 on the low end per wedding plus reception.

Post: Do you allow events such as weddings?

Demetrius HarrellPosted
  • Investor
  • Georgia - Loganville
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 21
Quote from @John Underwood:

1. Do you allow weddings or other events?

2. Do you charge anything extra for such an event?

So there was a weddings today at our cabin and a rehearsal yesterday. 

Apparently they had got permission from the previous owner. They were told as long as no more than max of 23 people stayed the night they were fine. 

Just wondering should I allow this in the future and if I do such I monetize with a venue fee of sorts?

 Hey @John Underwood,

I own an event venue (Encaptivating Events), if you decide to allow weddings you should definitely charge extra typically wedding venues charge $800 to $1000 just for the ceremony which includes setup, facility and staff costs. You only have facility cost so you could charge less if you wanted and as others have mentioned have them get event insurance and add you as a beneficiary to protect your investment. 

I would not allow receptions to be held there because you cannot control every person's actions and especially when drunk. Given Airbnb's party policies it may be good for you to take this on a case by case basis and get a wedding contract.

Get details such as: Date and Time of the event, include your properties capacity limits, cleaning fee, how damages will be handled, what is and is not allowed on the property, what vendor services will be on the property the day of the event (Catering, DJ, Alcohol, etc.) , Liability coverage.

Post: Airbnb into wedding venue???

Demetrius HarrellPosted
  • Investor
  • Georgia - Loganville
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 21
Quote from @Kevin Marin:
Quote from @Demetrius Harrell:
Quote from @Kevin Marin:

Hey,

I have recently listed an airbnb in September and I got an inquiry for a few dates. They asked me if I would consider allowing them to have their wedding ceremony at the property with the reception after. I'm considering it to be honest but I'm worried something could go wrong as in someone gets hurt. What would I need to do to make this a smooth opportunity?

I appreciate any advice

I am a venue owner I can tell you from experience, the wedding ceremony would be fine but the reception would have to many moving parts if you do not have the systems in place to manage it. 

Dj, setup and breakdown/clean up, food, guest leaving trash in random places, POOP ON WALLS (still trying to figure out how that happened) etc.

When it is left up to the guest to manage it all that increases the chance of something happening.

Most events/weddings have less people show up than planned for “IF” 30 people really is the accurate head count.

Besides for a reception that small they should be able to find an actual venue for $1000 to $3000.

Well I can honestly say did not factor the poop situation into my concerns hahaha. We discussed their plan B for a reception and they said they would just have it at a restaurant. So maybe I could just offer to host the actual ceremony only. What do you think would be a fair charge for this? and if i did the reception, would a fair charge be $2000 plus airbnb stay?
Taking into account they will be staying at your property, will only do the ceremony there and me not being an expert on Florida but talking some colleagues that have venues in Florida about $250 to $400, not including the Airbnb stay.

If you did the reception, $1750 would be a fair price, not including the Airbnb stay taking into consideration the additional insurance you may need to protect yourself as others have mentioned and you are not providing any of the decorations or labor but I am sure your cleaners would have to be extra thorough in getting the property ready for your next guest.