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All Forum Posts by: Demetrius Harrell

Demetrius Harrell has started 3 posts and replied 29 times.

Post: Potential Wedding Venue site

Demetrius HarrellPosted
  • Investor
  • Georgia - Loganville
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 21

To add on to some of Pete's ideas, what I did with my venue was do conduct style shoots and allow different vendors in to decorate the venue and have models come to pose for photos as if they were getting married. This helps (Caterers, Planners, Photographers, Decorators, etc.) know what is possible.

I also did pre-venue opening sales, have mock ups of the property and offer a discount to clients that book before the venue if officially opened for business. 

Post: Wedding/Rental venue help.

Demetrius HarrellPosted
  • Investor
  • Georgia - Loganville
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 21

Hey Garret, 

I agree with Jacob with the considerations he has presented. 

My venue has been open for 2.5 years and I have been in the industry for 4.5 years. Depending upon you business model a venue can be operated similar to a STR business (which is how mine is setup) but having a lot of skill sets within your family is a huge benefit.

While you consider finance options develop the business plan to show what your plans are when you take over. Do you have access to the P&L from when the previous owner was running it that you may be able to leverage as proof of demand?

If you have any questions regarding venue operations feel free to ask me.

Post: Wedding Venue- Snohomish County

Demetrius HarrellPosted
  • Investor
  • Georgia - Loganville
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 21

Hey Kobe,

I own a Venue in the Athens, Ga (Encaptivating Events) area and am apart of a network of owners/investors in the industry.  

I would be happy to discuss how I could help.

Post: Own a ranch - Need Ideas on how to maximize on rent

Demetrius HarrellPosted
  • Investor
  • Georgia - Loganville
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 21
Quote from @Walid Ajmal:

Thank you all for your input, thoughts, and ideas. The 40 acres are very hard to maintain, so I have found a gentleman who can park his mobile home and maintain the land in return for free rent. I will be renting two of the casitas for rent to two different groups. I found a guy who has an RV/ boat storage facility and is out of the room and has a waiting list, so he will rent a portion of the land to park RVs and boats. I will be leasing another portion of the land to occasional parties and events. This was not my intention because I don't have the time to manage but I don't have any other options at the moment. Keep the ideas coming, please. Thank you 


 Does it make sense to hire a property manager or grounds keeper given your time constraints? Given that you are leasing out portions of the land having a grounds keeper to walk the property and a part-time virtual assistant may make it easier for you once you have your systems in place.

Post: Wedding Venue in Hilliard

Demetrius HarrellPosted
  • Investor
  • Georgia - Loganville
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 21

No, I do not have experience in Franklin county. I am in Georgia.

Post: Wedding Venue in Hilliard

Demetrius HarrellPosted
  • Investor
  • Georgia - Loganville
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 21
Quote from @Nick Uhas:

@Demetrius Harrell This is great insight! So, so far I've reached out to Norwich Township and they have told me this property falls into Franklin County Zoning. Since it's not Hilliard or Columbus I will still need to apply for an AirBnb permit (but it's conditional).... one area that seems grey is this...I would need to apply for a variance to make this property an official wedding venue, but I know some air BnB's just use the property to host weddings. Does anyone know what the actual cut-off here is... or is it basically keep doing weddings but "don't piss off the neighbors". Open to all feedback here! 

It is not uncommon for STR's to host weddings but to your point some of them are doing it without the proper permits so it becomes a situation of "Don't piss off the neighbors" and no one will know so they do not get shutdown. I like to be more cautious because the more you do it the higher the chance of getting caught so I would recommend doing your due diligence to see if it is worth it for you. The fact that they have the policies in place just shows that they are aware of the business model which works in your favor.

Post: Wedding Venue in Hilliard

Demetrius HarrellPosted
  • Investor
  • Georgia - Loganville
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 21
Quote from @Phong Bui:
Quote from @Nick Uhas:

Hey BP Columbus! 

I have 4 commercial buildings down on campus (OSU) and a single-family house out in Hilliard on 11.8 acres (half grass half wooded area). For about 3 years now I haven't figured out the best path forward except just to rent it out like a normal house. However, I've now got an idea of making this an STR while using the property as a wedding venue. I've seen the numbers on wedding venue rates and this looks much more attractive than just monthly rent. The idea would be to build HGTV-style big barn and turn the grassy areas into an apple orchard (low maintenance and possible ag tax credit down the line). I think this could be a better use for a large property with just one single-family house on it. Please let me know your investor thoughts!


 It definitely sounds like a good idea for diversification and creative use of the property. As a wedding venue though, the fundamental business model changes to an event site to cater towards the client demand. More often that would mean having amenities like tables/chairs, av hookups, lighting, etc to accommodate wedding functions. Of course that would probably depend on the type of weddings you decide to accommodate, but offering a bare bones facility that puts the responsibility decorations and material all on the client seems like it will severely limit your potential clients. I think licenses required for having food/beverages/alcohol served on the premise, even if not directly supplied by you, will also need to be considered.

If you proceed, you might also consider allowing other events as well, such as corporate retreats/functions. I attended a company "gala" out in galloway a few years back that I think would match what your idea would provide.

Side note, I used to walk past your campus properties all the time. I really like how they turned out!


 That is a good point, it will depend on his market competition and his business model. Most of my venue clients already have a decorator in mind they want to use so they only rent the facility from me and if they do not like the tables and/or chairs I provide they will have their decorator bring their own. If he partners with locate event planners he can still be an all-inclusive venue without having to worry about managing a full decoration team.

I am in the process of hiring staff now to assist with me with doing decorations so I can focus on securing another venue.

Post: Wedding Venue in Hilliard

Demetrius HarrellPosted
  • Investor
  • Georgia - Loganville
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 21
Quote from @Jacob Hornberger:

There's a huge demand for venues right now, I've thought about doing this myself. I really like the rustic barn style but, at least in my area, they are everywhere. I would like to see something more unique that people are willing to travel for to use. Then again, the barns are always booked out for at least a year ahead of time in my area. I just worry about competition getting to strong in the barn venue market.

Also, keep in mind, a wedding venue isn't going to be near as passive as a standard single-family rental. But I would say the rental rates on venues make up for it!

If you get the opportunity you should do it. Weddings typically book 9 months to 1 year in advance and depending on your business model you can do everything in house to increase your bottom line or have preferred vendors to manage consistent quality for your guests. It does not have to be a rustic barn, there is a wedding venue an hour away from me their venue is a 2 level modern barn. 

Post: Wedding Venue in Hilliard

Demetrius HarrellPosted
  • Investor
  • Georgia - Loganville
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 21
Quote from @Nick Uhas:

Hey BP Columbus! 

I have 4 commercial buildings down on campus (OSU) and a single-family house out in Hilliard on 11.8 acres (half grass half wooded area). For about 3 years now I haven't figured out the best path forward except just to rent it out like a normal house. However, I've now got an idea of making this an STR while using the property as a wedding venue. I've seen the numbers on wedding venue rates and this looks much more attractive than just monthly rent. The idea would be to build HGTV-style big barn and turn the grassy areas into an apple orchard (low maintenance and possible ag tax credit down the line). I think this could be a better use for a large property with just one single-family house on it. Please let me know your investor thoughts!


 As the other comments have said definitely check your zoning but it is a great idea. You do not have to limit yourself to just a wedding venue, without doing the research I cannot give you exact advice but some of the things I do with my venue is list it for other uses such as:

Rent it to TV/Film through your local state and/or county.

Corporate events which are on the rise for unique places.

Baby Showers.


Running an event venue is very similar to running a STR the main difference is it requires a more work up front because you have to market your venue more in comparison to a STR and setting up your automations can take a little more time if you have no one with experience to help you.

Post: Speculative Bar Investment

Demetrius HarrellPosted
  • Investor
  • Georgia - Loganville
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 21

Could you partner with other venue owners near by and operate it as a wedding venue. One of my event venue colleagues has 3 venues in Houston and I know she is always looking for partnership opportunities.