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All Forum Posts by: Demetrius Davis

Demetrius Davis has started 18 posts and replied 97 times.

Post: 3-Flat or 4-Flat Zoning Discrepancy

Demetrius DavisPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 98
  • Votes 52

I have what was presented to me as a 4-unit under contract in Chicago. The appraiser commented that it is a “legal 4-unit building” on the appraisal. The Cook County Assessor lists it as a 4-unit as well. The seller requested a zoning certificate from the city and it came back as a 3-unit. I should add that the seller’s attorney screwed up the application for zoning certificate by listing it as having 2 units on each floor, rather than 1 unit on each floor including the basement.

During the inspection we discovered that the basement apartment, which is occupied by the owner’s son doesn’t have its own gas meter or furnace. It shares a meter and furnace with the 1st floor apartment, but has its own vents.


What do I make of the discrepancy between these various entities including the appraiser? Has anyone dealt with something similar? Any advice on how to proceed?

Post: Financing Options to Pair with Assumed Loan on MultiFamily

Demetrius DavisPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 98
  • Votes 52

@John Warren thanks a lot for clarifying things! Also, thanks for your points about what it takes to qualify for these loans.

Post: Financing Options to Pair with Assumed Loan on MultiFamily

Demetrius DavisPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 98
  • Votes 52

@Erik Estrada here’s a link to a site that explains it: https://www.commercialrealesta...

Post: Financing Options to Pair with Assumed Loan on MultiFamily

Demetrius DavisPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 98
  • Votes 52
Quote from @Erik Estrada:
Quote from @Demetrius Davis:
Quote from @Erik Estrada:
Quote from @Demetrius Davis:

I’m considering a multi-family building in the Chicago area that has a Fannie/Freddie type loan in place at a very low interest rate. After assuming the loan, there is still another $600k that I would need in order to come respectfully close to the asking price. I don’t have access to that amount in cash, but could pull together $250k +/- personally and through money partners. What are my options for satisfying the remaining $350k? Are there lenders who will take second position liens on these kinds of deals? What are my other options besides seller financing to put together the capital stack?


 Hey Demetrius! Are you buying this as a primary residence or investment property? Not many lenders are willing to take second position unless it is through a private lender that is willing to assume that risk. 

 @Erik Estrada it’s a 19-unit building. I apologize that I didn’t clarify that I was referring to commercial lending.


 Commercial lending does not follow Fannie/Freddie guidelines. I am a little confused on how you are assuming a Fannie/ Freddie loan on a commercial building. 

@Erik Estrada Freddie and Fannie offer commercial loans with low interest rates on commercial multifamily properties. The loans are assumable by the new owner and typically have 10-year terms. They qualify the buyer and also charge a 1% fee.

Post: Financing Options to Pair with Assumed Loan on MultiFamily

Demetrius DavisPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 98
  • Votes 52
Quote from @Erik Estrada:
Quote from @Demetrius Davis:

I’m considering a multi-family building in the Chicago area that has a Fannie/Freddie type loan in place at a very low interest rate. After assuming the loan, there is still another $600k that I would need in order to come respectfully close to the asking price. I don’t have access to that amount in cash, but could pull together $250k +/- personally and through money partners. What are my options for satisfying the remaining $350k? Are there lenders who will take second position liens on these kinds of deals? What are my other options besides seller financing to put together the capital stack?


 Hey Demetrius! Are you buying this as a primary residence or investment property? Not many lenders are willing to take second position unless it is through a private lender that is willing to assume that risk. 

 @Erik Estrada it’s a 19-unit building. I apologize that I didn’t clarify that I was referring to commercial lending.

Post: Financing Options to Pair with Assumed Loan on MultiFamily

Demetrius DavisPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 98
  • Votes 52

@Andrew Postell does this apply to commercial loans by Fannie and Freddie? The subject property is a 19-unit building.

Post: Financing Options to Pair with Assumed Loan on MultiFamily

Demetrius DavisPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 98
  • Votes 52

I’m considering a multi-family building in the Chicago area that has a Fannie/Freddie type loan in place at a very low interest rate. After assuming the loan, there is still another $600k that I would need in order to come respectfully close to the asking price. I don’t have access to that amount in cash, but could pull together $250k +/- personally and through money partners. What are my options for satisfying the remaining $350k? Are there lenders who will take second position liens on these kinds of deals? What are my other options besides seller financing to put together the capital stack?

Post: Down Payment Options

Demetrius DavisPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 98
  • Votes 52
Quote from @Wale Lawal:

@Lindsey McKinney

Here are some alternative ideas for coming up with the down payment for an investment property!

1. Home Equity
2. Rental Equity Line of Credit (“RELOC”)
3. Cross-Collateralization
4. Your 401(k)
5. Your Roth IRA
6. House Hack to Slash Your Down Payment (and Live for Free)
7. Owner Financing
8. Gap Funding
9. Loans from Friends & Family
10. Co-Investment from Friends & Family

Read this article for detailed information https://sparkrental.com/down-p...

Good luck!

 @Wale Lawal thanks a lot for posting this article! This is gold!

Post: Strategy for Chicago Multi-Family Market at 6%+ Interest Rates?

Demetrius DavisPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 98
  • Votes 52
Quote from @Scott Steinlauf:

There is some really good advice on this thread.  I've been investing in Chicago primarily for just under 20 years and deals are very challenging to find but they are out there.  I always go back to the numbers with my spreadsheet of, cap rate, coc, etc. and have my parameters and either deals meet the metrics or not. It's arduous at times but it is the best way to keep emotion out as much as possible.

@Scott Steinlauf that’s very sound advice! It’s all about discipline and the numbers. From time to time I get super excited about a property, then surprisingly after running it through my spreadsheet, I realize that the return is horrible.

Post: Strategy for Chicago Multi-Family Market at 6%+ Interest Rates?

Demetrius DavisPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 98
  • Votes 52
Quote from @Crystal Smith:
Quote from @Demetrius Davis:

I'm pivoting from Chicago SFH investing to multifamily (South Side), but I wish I had arrived to the party 6 months earlier. With investor mortgage rates above 6% plus points, prices on the South Side barely meeting the 1% rule, property tax increases, and the prospect of even higher rates if a cash-out refi is done on a value-add MF 6 months from now, how are you playing the Chicago multi-family market currently? Are you continuing to pursue deals? Are you waiting for a fall/winter price cool down? Are you waiting for bigger dips?


Being in this business for over 20 years what I have found are investors and homeowners are always waiting for the market to change; This includes prices dropping, interest rates dropping, switching from single family to multifamily,....  What I've learned- Stay in the market; diversify (pursue single, multi, commercial if you can afford it); become creative,......  Don't sit out waiting for big dips

 @Crystal Smith, great advice! Thank you!