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All Forum Posts by: Daniel Walton

Daniel Walton has started 8 posts and replied 26 times.

Post: BPCON 2023 Orlando meetup

Daniel Walton
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  • Huntington, WV
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 5

Hey @Justin Jayroe I'll be at the Ritz if you're close and want to grab a drink tomorrow 

Post: Let's get coffee! BPCON23

Daniel Walton
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  • Huntington, WV
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 5

@Gabrielle Adrian interested in meeting up for sure! 

Post: Who's going to the BPCon this year? Would love to connect!

Daniel Walton
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  • Investor
  • Huntington, WV
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 5

Definitely interested in connecting, I'm about 2 hours south in WV! 

Post: Any West Virginians attending BPCon??

Daniel Walton
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  • Huntington, WV
  • Posts 26
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Hi all, 

Just wondering if anyone from the WV area is planning on attending BPCon in Orlando next week? Looking to connect prior to the event, if so please feel free to reach out! 

Post: Using a commercial loan to rent from my LLC

Daniel Walton
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  • Huntington, WV
  • Posts 26
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Quote from @Stephanie P.:
Quote from @Daniel Walton:

Hi all, 


I know this situation may seem a bit odd I'll try to piece it together as best as possible. 

Last year I purchased a fixer upper home seller financed on an 18 month balloon, due to be paid back Jan 2024 through my LLC. My intentions were to rehab the home while I lived there, sell the home and repeat the process with the next home. After renovations were finished we have made the decision to refi and stay in the home, however, with our DTI being too high to use a primary home refi product our only current refi option is to use a DSCR loan. We would then rent the property from the LLC(lessor) to me and my wife personally(the tenants) each month. Fair market rent would bring the debt ratio to roughly 1.5. With more than a 100k in equity tied into the property I'm not in a position to leave the equity tied into the property.

My tax accountant has already told me that there is not a tax issue with us personally renting the home from the business but before I approach my commercial lender I've worked with I'm curious on what feedback this group may have. Renting this property to myself seems to obviously blur the lines of what a commercial loan is intended for, however, if the business is being compensated for the home it also seems to be serving its intended purpose? 

Any feedback is appreciated 


You should sell the house. If your DTI is too high to refinance out, take your profit and put it toward another house. I would use FHA and house hack a property that has units like this one. https://www.realtor.com/reales...Live in one and let the other two units pay the rent. 


 Hi Stephanie, 


Thanks for your reply, I'm actually in the middle of renovating a triplex around the corner from the one you linked and considering this option. Thanks for your feedback! 
 https://www.zillow.com/homes/9...

Post: Using a commercial loan to rent from my LLC

Daniel Walton
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  • Huntington, WV
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 5
Quote from @Andrew Postell:

@Daniel Walton yeah, very sorry here but this is just not possible on a home you occupy. The minute you occupy a property federal law kicks in. That law regulates what is possible and what is not possible. For example, having an 18 month balloon payment is COMPLETELY against regulations. That is not allowed at all on a primary home. So maybe your lender didn't know...and if that's the case then it's to your advantage because you can take them to court and win. Maybe not even owe anything at all. Or maybe you told them it was going to be an investment property? If you did tell them it would be an investment property then that means you committed mortgage fraud. So lots of things that MIGHT have occurred here but in either case, a DSCR loan would not be possible on a primary home. A DSCR qualifies based on the income of a property and will have strict paperwork and loan rules that won't allow you to occupy it. You will even sign paperwork with any DSCR loan that says you pledge to not occupy the property.

Now, having said ALL of that - it doesn't mean you can't get a loan. There are loans that are designed for your primary home that will ignore your DTI completely. They have slightly different rules...but those rules follow the Federal Compliance laws that regulate lending to someone's primary home. So you can still get a mortgage if you fit within the other boxes of the loan requirements. Usually some of those guidelines will include having 20%-30% equity in the property and 12-24 months of reserves.

*WHEW*  Sorry to go into such detail here. I didn't mean anything by it except to tell you what is possible and what is not.  Hope all of that makes sense.  Thanks!


 HI Andrew, 

Thanks for your reply, first off absolutely no mortgage fraud taking place here. The 18 month balloon is how I went about originally purchasing this home, the home currently does not have a mortgage on it. I was looking for suggestions on how to owner occupy the property w/ a high DTI but I will take your advice on searching for a product that does not factor in DTI. Thanks!

Post: Using a commercial loan to rent from my LLC

Daniel Walton
Pro Member
Posted
  • Investor
  • Huntington, WV
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 5

Hi all, 


I know this situation may seem a bit odd I'll try to piece it together as best as possible. 

Last year I purchased a fixer upper home seller financed on an 18 month balloon, due to be paid back Jan 2024 through my LLC. My intentions were to rehab the home while I lived there, sell the home and repeat the process with the next home. After renovations were finished we have made the decision to refi and stay in the home, however, with our DTI being too high to use a primary home refi product our only current refi option is to use a DSCR loan. We would then rent the property from the LLC(lessor) to me and my wife personally(the tenants) each month. Fair market rent would bring the debt ratio to roughly 1.5. With more than a 100k in equity tied into the property I'm not in a position to leave the equity tied into the property.

My tax accountant has already told me that there is not a tax issue with us personally renting the home from the business but before I approach my commercial lender I've worked with I'm curious on what feedback this group may have. Renting this property to myself seems to obviously blur the lines of what a commercial loan is intended for, however, if the business is being compensated for the home it also seems to be serving its intended purpose? 

Any feedback is appreciated 

Post: FIRST EVER meetup in Huntington (I think)

Daniel Walton
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Posted
  • Investor
  • Huntington, WV
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 5

This sounds like a good move to me, count me in 

Post: Charleston WV Real Estate Network

Daniel Walton
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  • Investor
  • Huntington, WV
  • Posts 26
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Sounds good guys, I sent you all a request to connect so we can start a group message and communicate upcoming details. 

Post: Charleston WV Real Estate Network

Daniel Walton
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  • Investor
  • Huntington, WV
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 5

@Deak Smith@Richard Fisher@Mason Weese@Jon M.@Derrick E.@Anthony Hosea@John B. Waugaman Jr.


Hey guys I went ahead and tagged everyone that has added input into this conversation over the last couple of months, is anyone up for a REI meetup next weekend? How would October 21st or 22nd work? We could do a midpoint between Huntington/Charleston, maybe Fireside in Hurricane?