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All Forum Posts by: Daniel Netzer

Daniel Netzer has started 6 posts and replied 62 times.

Quote from @John Carbone:
Quote from @Kristofer Kretsch:

I'm not in STR's for full disclosure. I do LTR's but have been considering MTR's in my area due to regulations banning STR's. The question I keep wondering is whether STR's will be cyclical like the hotel industry. CNBC did a piece a few years back now (but it can probably be found on YouTube), about how most major hotel chains (Marriot, Hilton, IHG) are basically just booking platforms (they own very few physical real estate assets). Implying that the main difference between them and AirBnB, VRBO, and STR platforms is type of building and the ownership (individual investors rather than large commercial real estate investors). Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-STR, but am just wondering if STR's are cyclical. I think if we do go through the "Air BnBust" as it's called on social media, it's probably just a normal downturn, not a bust. It will be like normal business cycle, and as other's have mentioned, locally dependent.


I'm curious to know which markets are UP YOY on STR with a large data set, not just a random lake house.

AirDnA has excellent data on this. The norm seems to be that most collective markets are trending up quite well, but are just overrun with supply, so individual STRs are making less on average due to the low barrier to entry in these markets + airbnb arb influencers promoting the hell out of it. 

Post: 203k FHA construction loans - and use cases

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Quote from @Anthony Freeman:
Quote from @Daniel Netzer:
Quote from @Caroline Gerardo:

Rate is similar to standard FHA which the pricing is generated from your mortgage middle FICO score. There are two types. $35000 is the max you can use for rehabilitation and the product limits the types of repairs you can do. Great products BUT You are stuck with the 1.75% mortgage insurance until you can refinance or sell.

Oh wow, that 1.75% insurance combined w/the admin overhead makes this very unattractive for me. Seems ambitious to find a quality rehab contractor that's willing to deal with the banks on this. 
Admin Overhead? Can you explain?
The added work for contractors to comply with the banking loan accounting/process. Contractors are super busy and gravitate away from cumbersome processes when they can. 

Post: 203k FHA construction loans - and use cases

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Quote from @Caroline Gerardo:

Rate is similar to standard FHA which the pricing is generated from your mortgage middle FICO score. There are two types. $35000 is the max you can use for rehabilitation and the product limits the types of repairs you can do. Great products BUT You are stuck with the 1.75% mortgage insurance until you can refinance or sell.

Oh wow, that 1.75% insurance combined w/the admin overhead makes this very unattractive for me. Seems ambitious to find a quality rehab contractor that's willing to deal with the banks on this. 

Post: 203k FHA construction loans - and use cases

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Quote from @Anthony Freeman:
Quote from @Daniel Netzer:
Quote from @Anthony Freeman:
Quote from @Daniel Netzer:

Has anyone used a "203k FHA construction loan"? I am curious to know how it works and what the rate is relative to the typical FHA-conforming loans.

I believe the biggest difference is in the paperwork. The 3.5% is calculated from the entire construction loan which will rise a typical down payment and your closing cost. I am considering this loan myself.
at what rate? 
7.0%
Got it so the same as a conventional loan. How long is the term of the loan? 1-3 years? 

Post: Airbnb bookings nosedived

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Quote from @Theresa P.:

I purchased a home in a prominent vacation area in Colorado a few years ago. I live in it part time and rent it out part time. For the past 3 years, STR bookings have been great. They've provided a steady source of income and I have had no shortage of bookings. Suddenly, starting in April of this year, my views on Airbnb have gone to zero. I've gotten zero booking requests since March. I've reached out to Airbnb, who scratched their heads and referred me to a generic article about lowering nightly rates. I've tried everything from lowering rates to reducing nightly minimums to offering discounts and nothing has moved the needle. I'm perplexed.

I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced something similar with their STR, if anyone has any insight or maybe even a recommendation of alternate STR platforms.

Thank you!

Can you see the supply pool of competing STRs in AirDNA since Jan 1st? Unless that's going up dramatically, it sounds like the Airbnb algo ghosted you for some reason. 

Post: 203k FHA construction loans - and use cases

Daniel NetzerPosted
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Quote from @Anthony Freeman:
Quote from @Daniel Netzer:

Has anyone used a "203k FHA construction loan"? I am curious to know how it works and what the rate is relative to the typical FHA-conforming loans.

I believe the biggest difference is in the paperwork. The 3.5% is calculated from the entire construction loan which will rise a typical down payment and your closing cost. I am considering this loan myself.
at what rate? 

Post: 203k FHA construction loans - and use cases

Daniel NetzerPosted
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Has anyone used a "203k FHA construction loan"? I am curious to know how it works and what the rate is relative to the typical FHA-conforming loans.

Quote from @John Underwood:

Remember 2008 when everything crashed? Then what happened? Prices corrected equalized and went back up.

I think most of us would like to buy at 2008 prices now.

So if you can hold onto properties they will equalize and continue up in price.

Until we see a sharp recession, I'm not seeing a US-wide doom and gloom. Crash canceled, aside from a few pockets with over-saturated vacation rental speculators or insurance issues, like Florida. 
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Quote from @Dominique Morris:

Yes, I'm part of several groups here in Michigan, and I've noticed that many property owners are selling their properties or not re-leasing properties arbitraged because increase in leasing prices. The market is currently over saturated, driving prices down, not leaving much profit.


Unregulated STR markets are in the midst of taking a big haircut, IMO. Others with a higher barrier for entry will continue to be just fine.

Or the regulated markets get rug pulled like in NYC 
Did NYC have any barriers to entry? I assumed not. 

Of course they did and now the regulations are so tight you need to be in the same dwelling as your guests to rent them.

 I’d much rather invest in an unregulated market and let it crash and burn with bad products and then everyone will be afraid to invest in them again. That’s where the real money is made, not because someone adds stricter and stricter regulations eventually leading to your own demise. 

 I'm in a market that releases stricter regulations, yet grandfathers in previous conforming permits. That's how it should be done, and you should feel safe in a market that has a history of protecting previous legal conforming permits. NYC clearly isn't one of them. lol 

Quote from @John Carbone:
Quote from @Daniel Netzer:
Quote from @Dominique Morris:

Yes, I'm part of several groups here in Michigan, and I've noticed that many property owners are selling their properties or not re-leasing properties arbitraged because increase in leasing prices. The market is currently over saturated, driving prices down, not leaving much profit.


Unregulated STR markets are in the midst of taking a big haircut, IMO. Others with a higher barrier for entry will continue to be just fine.

Or the regulated markets get rug pulled like in NYC 
Did NYC have any barriers to entry? I assumed not.