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All Forum Posts by: Daniel Murphy

Daniel Murphy has started 41 posts and replied 151 times.

Post: $20k to invest

Daniel MurphyPosted
  • Financial Advisor
  • Saint Paul, MN
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 115
Quote from @Ryan Roth:
Quote from @Daniel Murphy:

Similar to what others have said... You first need to identity your goal for the money.  IE - your timeframe.  If it's short term, CD's are probably still the best.  Shorter term CD's actually have higher rates than longer term so staying in the 3-6 month range is best.  

If however you don't have any specific goal or timeframe, I generally default to "long term".  Long term money, you could invest into a taxable account so you have access to it whenever you want. Similar to a checking or savings. But by putting it into a broadly diversified index fund like others have mentioned, you'll get the higher "expected" returns of the stock market.  

As for not feeling like it's the right time, I would urge you to focus more on the goals than your feelings.  No offense meant by this... I've been a financial planner for 17+ years and one of the main things I've learned is that the more I think I know what's going on, the less I'm actually correct.  You really have to believe you know more than BILLIONS of investors... 
The stock market is up something like 80% of the days long term. The old saying is "Time IN the market, not TIMING the market."  

I'm happy to chat if you ever want to reach out... 

Thanks for the advice Daniel. I currently have a pre-tax retirement account with employer match and a Roth IRA invested in the stock market. Just looking for ideas to put this money to its highest and best use. 

 Good to know Ryan.  If you're considering Real Estate as an option in the future, I would not add the money to either of these accounts.  With a pre tax employer account, your money will be locked in and mostly unavailable for future use.  
With the Roth IRA, you can only take your contributions out.

I would recommend opening up a brokerage account with Schwab, Fidelity, Vanguard or any other large firm like this.  A "taxable brokerage" account is like your checking or savings, but it's open to nearly all of the investment products.  You could then choose a broad based index fund if you wanted to invest in the market.  

Or... the other nice thing about these accounts is that you could also shop CD rates. But unlike going to your bank (and getting your local banks CD rates), with these accounts you can shop CD rates nationwide.  You are likely to get a better rate on your CD through an account like this also.  

Post: $20k to invest

Daniel MurphyPosted
  • Financial Advisor
  • Saint Paul, MN
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 115

Similar to what others have said... You first need to identity your goal for the money.  IE - your timeframe.  If it's short term, CD's are probably still the best.  Shorter term CD's actually have higher rates than longer term so staying in the 3-6 month range is best.  

If however you don't have any specific goal or timeframe, I generally default to "long term".  Long term money, you could invest into a taxable account so you have access to it whenever you want. Similar to a checking or savings. But by putting it into a broadly diversified index fund like others have mentioned, you'll get the higher "expected" returns of the stock market.  

As for not feeling like it's the right time, I would urge you to focus more on the goals than your feelings.  No offense meant by this... I've been a financial planner for 17+ years and one of the main things I've learned is that the more I think I know what's going on, the less I'm actually correct.  You really have to believe you know more than BILLIONS of investors... 
The stock market is up something like 80% of the days long term. The old saying is "Time IN the market, not TIMING the market."  

I'm happy to chat if you ever want to reach out... 

Post: Is it worth tax planning before acquiring rentals?

Daniel MurphyPosted
  • Financial Advisor
  • Saint Paul, MN
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 115

I'm a financial planner by profession so you'd think the default answer is, "heck yeah, always hire a planner!"  
But in reality, for younger people with moderate income, I actually see less benefit to financial planning.  
The one aspect I'd say where planning can really provide benefit however is with tax planning.  

If you're pretty smart with this stuff, I think can definitely make sense for you two to talk with a tax planner. The intricacies tax planning with a rental are worth hiring a professional, even if you just do it once for an overview.  Given that you're not married, that adds some additional complexity.  
All this is to say, I believe it would be money well spent for sure... 

Post: Spreadsheet for house sale projections?

Daniel MurphyPosted
  • Financial Advisor
  • Saint Paul, MN
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 115

Does anyone have a pre-built spreadsheet available to run projections for the sale of a house?  Either a personal residential home or an investment property?  Thanks in advance!

Post: Roth Conversion Calculator

Daniel MurphyPosted
  • Financial Advisor
  • Saint Paul, MN
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 115

Unfortunately, I don't believe such a calculator exists.  There are too many variables to account for with everyone's unique taxes.  

A very simplistic calculation could be, the amount of conversion * 22% would give you your rough taxes. I say this because, (I've been doing partial Roth conversions for years with clients), all of my Roth conversions have been to fill up the 22% tax bracket. I have only had one case where we filled up the 24% bracket and that was a very unique situation.  

I'm not sure what you mean by "one more multiple conversion options".  I either convert when the market is down, or at the end of the year for the most part... 

The investment % of growth of IRA vs Roth is a bit broad. If you use the same investment pre and post-roth conversion, the growth would be the same. However, if you're managing your investments with a bit more tact, you will put your bonds in the IRA and your higher growth investments in the Roth which would give you differing growth rates. But these are "EXPECTED" returns, so they are just estimates.

RMD amounts can be calculated post-conversion, but they are estimates too.  

All of this is nuanced & complicated which is why I don't believe any single calculator exists.  I also don't believe many or any CFP's are charging $5,000 for Roth conversion calculations. 

Post: Can you get financing an a large bnb property?

Daniel MurphyPosted
  • Financial Advisor
  • Saint Paul, MN
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 115

Hey everyone, I have a client who owns a bed & breakfast property in CA.  They're running into issues with potential refinancing.  Ideally, they would have access to a line of credit, or some type of loan for misc purchases.  But here is what they are running into.  Does anyone have ideas of who to talk? 

  1. You can’t get an ag loan because you don’t grow anything. 
  2. You can’t get a residential loan because you run a business on the property. Appraisers would do on-line and see the business website. We even had one guy book a room and then cancel.
  3. You can’t get a commercial loan because you live in the property

Post: Removing ex wife from title - she was never a borrower

Daniel MurphyPosted
  • Financial Advisor
  • Saint Paul, MN
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 115

Hey all, I have a home in MN and a home in FL. I'm recently divorced and kept the 2 properties.  My understanding is that I will need to refi in order to get my ex off of the properties.  My question is, both of these homes were purchased under my name only because she had no income. So all closing docs, title etc. only have my signature.  I understand joint legal ownership, but that normally seems to apply at selling.  

Are there any thoughts, options or opinions on how to remove her name from the titles without a refi?  

Post: Inherited Traditional IRA

Daniel MurphyPosted
  • Financial Advisor
  • Saint Paul, MN
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 115
Quote from @Michael Bertsch:

Seeking some guidance from you guys! I need to help my father who is disabled with a inherited traditional IRA. He is going to be receiving it next week from Chase and then we are going to transfer it to Vanguard. From my understanding, there is going to be required minimum distributions (RMD). Can he file for an exemption? If so, what is the process for filing?

Could he lose his social security disability benefits if he withdraws too much from the ira?


Hey Michael, a few quick questions. When did he inherit the IRA and was it from a spouse or non spouse?
If it's from a spouse, it just becomes his and follows normal IRA distributions rules.  If it's from a non spouse, he will have to withdraw the entire account within 10 years. In 16+ years, I have never heard of an exception to this.  In fact, the IRS levies the largest penalty that I'm aware of (50% of whatever the required distribution was supposed to be) on IRA required distributions. 

Full transparency, I've also never heard of this penalty being enforced... 

His withdrawals will be taxable, but they should not affect his benefits. 

Post: Help me understand the benefit of a secondary rental agreement`

Daniel MurphyPosted
  • Financial Advisor
  • Saint Paul, MN
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 115

Help me understand Rental Agreements, outside of Airbnb.

According to the Airbnb TOS, when a guest books with us, they are entering into an agreement directly with us as the host (the Airbnb TOS).

Does getting a secondary rental agreement through a management software really add any extra security or liability release? 

I understand the benefit of having guests' contact info for myself, but in 2 years we have not had much success yet with recurring guests coming back to book directly.

Post: Roth 401(k) vs brokerage account

Daniel MurphyPosted
  • Financial Advisor
  • Saint Paul, MN
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 115
Quote from @Derek Zeigler:

Alright so What is the benefit of contributing to a Roth 401K vs self investing in a taxable account granted you have the discipline to invest. I am looking to invest more in RE and like the liquidity that a non 401k provides if I were to want it to put into a deal. I may be looking at it wrong but a 401K seems great for people to start with and for people not financially disciplined to actually save that money once they get it. Let me hear your thoughts.

About me: 31 yrs old, married with 1 child. net worth about $500K with just over $300K in investments. Max out roth 401K and roth IRA for last 2 years, Total income last year $176,000


As a financial planner, I would say that one of the main things I'm trying to do for my clients long term is to get money as efficiently into Roth IRA's as possible. The real benefits of a Roth, you won't see for 30+ years. Roth assets are withdrawn tax free, which gives you incredible options in retirement. Plus, they pass to heirs tax free.

Imagine yourself as a 70+ year old. You've built up a decent RE portfolio. You're retired & you don't need your investments to survive (which are now likely worth well over $1M).  You start to run into troubles when you're required to take distributions from your Traditional IRA's & 401k's.  Essentially, you've lost some control over your taxes now because of these required distributions.  This is one scenario when Roth assets are incredibly helpful.  You can control your tax bracket more because you have the option to withdraw tax free assets when needed. 

To your current situation. Your total income of $176k minus the standard deduction of $27,700 gives you an estimated taxable income of ~$148k.  This puts you in the 22% tax bracket which caps out around $178k.  So until your income grows by another $30k, investing in the Roth is still a good strategy. Once your income grows more than this, you'll likely want to shift your savings to the standard 401k. 

You'll also want to determine what your goals are. If you want to buy more RE soon, I would shift your savings to a taxable brokerage. Continue to put the min amount into your 401k to get the employer match, but you could put the rest into a taxable brokerage account which will be 100% available to purchase more RE.  

Long winded answer, but ultimately you want to save where you get the most tax benefit, and the most "how am I going to use this money" benefit.  Reach out to me if you want to talk about it more.