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All Forum Posts by: Craig S.

Craig S. has started 31 posts and replied 108 times.

Post: FHA PMI Insurance Rules Are Changing

Craig S.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 110
  • Votes 13

You are welcome guys (and women)! It seems they are looking to build back up their "insurance fund" in case of defaults. Maybe they are getting worried with the amount of FHA loans that are going through lately? I heard last quarter 25% of all mortgages were FHA. Why else do you speculate that they are doing this?

Post: FHA PMI Insurance Rules Are Changing

Craig S.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 110
  • Votes 13

Hello fellow investors,

I was just informed about some upcoming FHA regulation changes to the way PMI insurance is handled and assessed. Previously and currently, if you had a 30 year loan with a LTV greater than 78%, you would have a mandatory 5 years of PMI, even if you ended up having over 80% equity in less time.

FHA is changing the rules so most people will have PMI insurance which can NEVER be removed from the FHA loan. If you have a 30 year mortgage and greater than 90% LTV, you will have to pay PMI insurance for the life of the loan (30 years). This supposedly goes into effect on new loans starting 4/1/2013. Luckily my first property is under contract and hopefully I will close before 4/1/13.

Read more on the HUD website here: http://portal.hud.gov/hudportal/documents/huddoc?id=13-04ml.pdf

Post: I get asked "So, how many properties do you own?"

Craig S.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 110
  • Votes 13

@Robin Grimes, if you are on an iPhone (like I am now) or maybe an iPad (haven't tested this), the link to the persons name will not work or pop-up. If you are using a computer it should work fine as @Ryan Richard has described.

Post: Triplex rental property, good or bad deal?

Craig S.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 110
  • Votes 13

Here is my amateur advice (so take it for what it's worth):

Your purchase price is @ $300k and if this is an investment you can expect to put down about 25% or $75,000 as an investment non-owner occupied. So we will say you will finance $225,000 @ 6.5% interest for 30 years.

Your monthly payments will be:

Monthly principal & interest = $1422
Monthly Insurance = $100
Monthly taxes = $484
Total = $2,006

According to the 50% rule, if you are getting $3,800 per month for gross rents, you divide by 2 (to factor in repairs, maintenance, etc) which leaves you $1,900 to pay operating expenses and the other $1,900 to pay for the monthly P&I which is $1,422. That would technically leave you with an estimated $478 per month cashflow for 3 units ($1,900 - $1,422). Investors typically shoot for between $100 and $200 /month cashflow PER UNIT, so this cashflow itself isn't necessarily bad.

Of course, you may decide to manage this property yourself which can decrease management expenses and therefore increase your "cashflow".

It also depends on how many major repairs are needed to this property if any. Either way, you should factor these items into your future costs.

If you are only netting $478 per month / $5,736 per year cashflow, it will take you about 13 years to pay back your initial $75k downpayment investment. That doesn't sound like a good investment to me.

What do you other investors look for as far as a "payback" of your downpayment funds? I would assume most investors probably want to pay themselves back on the initial downpayment in 4-5 years or less although I could be wrong. This is also a personal choice.

Hope this helps.

Post: I get asked "So, how many properties do you own?"

Craig S.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 110
  • Votes 13

I am in the process of purchasing my first rental property right now so I have obviously not had this questions yet with regards to rentals--however I own an insurance agency and sometimes get asked "how many clients do you have" and my typical response is "More than one and less than a million". With close family I may tell them roughly, but anyone else I like to keep private.

Post: need a formula for buying residential multi-family rental properties

Craig S.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 110
  • Votes 13

Hi Alex R., it also looks like you are financing through Owner Occupied FHA. In that case, no matter how much equity you have, you will have PMI insurance for 60 months under current rules. Not sure if you are going FHA or not? That is just another number to factor into your equation that the 50% rule (in your case 64% rule) does not really account well for.

I am in the process of completing my first deal as well. FHA financed duplex OO. I am subtracting the PMI insurance as well from my Debt Service (P&I) to make sure the deal works. And when PMI is removed, it will be just more cashflow--nice!

So IF you are going FHA, your math might look like:
Cashflow = $2,370 x 0.64 - $852 ($702 + $150 for PMI) = $664.80

Post: How To Get Mortgage on 2nd Investment Property?

Craig S.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 110
  • Votes 13

@Jon Holdman -- thanks for your clarity and help in answering our questions! Very much appreciated.

Post: How To Get Mortgage on 2nd Investment Property?

Craig S.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 110
  • Votes 13

Johann Jells, it was serious, the way you worded it sounded like you literally had no income/cashflow. :)

Post: How To Get Mortgage on 2nd Investment Property?

Craig S.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 110
  • Votes 13

Hi Johann Jells, so you are saying that a bank told you that you cannot use the income from a current property you have owned for 6 months to qualify for another new investment?

And, why did you invest $225k into a mortgage with no income/cashflow? Did you have a large CapEx?

Jon Holdman--you seem to be pretty knowledgable, do you have any insight on this?

Post: How To Get Mortgage on 2nd Investment Property?

Craig S.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 110
  • Votes 13

Hi Harry M. I would like to know to know how this works as well. Maybe Jon Holdman or someone else can give us their input...