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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 11 posts and replied 68 times.

Post: Modeling Prepayment Penalties in Excel?

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  • Ormond Beach, FL
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@Snehann Kapnadak not knowing anything about your model (other than it's in Excel), its difficult to provide specific, formulaic-type guidance. That said, we classify pre-pay penalties as closing costs. So wherever you are projecting the cash-out refi event in your model, make sure the estimated pre-pay is included in the projected closing costs. 

Post: Financial Advisor says: Real Estate is a terrible decision

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  • Ormond Beach, FL
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@Ty Doke I know there isn't time to do so for this particular situation, but going forward and for the sake of knowledge, read Andy Tanner's "401(k)aos"...after the read, you will be far better educated as an investor and will know all you need to ever know about mutual funds.

Best of Luck!

Post: Multi-Family Appraisal Books

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  • Ormond Beach, FL
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@Reed Meyer if you want a technical guide that views the valuation process from an appraiser's perspective, "The Valuation of Apartment Properties (2nd Edition)" by Arlen C. Mills/Richard Parli/Anthony Reynolds and published by the Appraisal Institute is a great source.

If you want to learn from an investor perspective, there are a ton of books out there, but "The Complete Guide to Investing in Rental Properties" by Steve Berges has a good section on valuation/pricing/return measurement.

Hope this helps...Best of Luck!
 

Post: Congresswoman Proposing Free Rent Nationwide, Government Takeover

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  • Ormond Beach, FL
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Just reporting in on the actions I have taken. 

Exercising my rights as a citizen (extremely important), I emailed the U.S. House of Representative(s) for the district containing my personal home, as well as the districts in which our properties are located. My message was one of opposition to Rep. Omar's proposal.   

Post: 16-Unit Conventional Apartment Complex Acquisition (Phase I)

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  • Ormond Beach, FL
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Investment Info:

Large multi-family (5+ units) buy & hold investment.

Purchase price: $1,550,000
Cash invested: $292,000

This deal represents Phase I of a 28-unit new construction project being acquired by IRV. Developer (Seller) agreed to closing contingency of 100% leased occupancy and minimum average rent levels of $895/Unit/Mo. for the 1BR units and $1,115/Unit/Mo. for the 2BR units. Projected NOI of +/- $110,000 and Yr. 1 CoC return of +/- 15%. Phase II (12-units) is nearing completion and closing is projected for some time in June/July 2020.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

New product in a market with little new product being introduced despite diversified employment base (State Farm, Illinois State University, Country Financial, Rivian Automotive, etc.).

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

By following the market through a local broker, LoopNet, and CoStar, we noticed that there had been a recent sale of a newer 16-unit complex in an area of the MSA we liked. By driving by the property that had sold, I noticed an adjacent site being prepared for construction. Assuming it was same developer and similar product, I called and engaged in a conversation. This led to the purchase.

How did you finance this deal?

Regional bank for the debt, two (2) individual investors provided the equity.

How did you add value to the deal?

Hiring the best-in-market property management company.

What was the outcome?

Successful closing. Now we build a sizable reserve and look forward to distributions next year.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

First time buying new construction, so negotiating the details of the purchase sale agreement was trickier than usual. We built-in safeguards for tenant worthiness, pricing levels of rents, escrow hold backs for completion of landscaping, warranties, protection against damages to Phase I during construction of Phase II, etc.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

First Site, Ltd. is the absolute best-in-market property management firm for Central IL. First Site not only helped with the transition, but put together the punch list and monitored the tenant selection process during lease-up. Busey Bank also stepped up tremendously. This closing occurred in the midst of the CV-19 crises and Busey could have used this as a premise to change our terms or pull out altogether. They did neither. In fact, they lowered our rate by 35 BP's. They were awesome.

Post: What is going on with grant cardone????

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Fake, real, somewhere in-between...those aren't the questions I would be asking.

Would you trust your hard earned money with this person or their company? This is the only pertinent question in my mind. To answer this, you need to be asking yourself what do these people/companies really do? 

Today more than ever before, there are an expanding number of syndicators vying for your hard earned dollars. As passive investors, it is extremely important to recognize exactly who you are investing with. Many of the larger syndicators these days are NOT real estate companies or operators. They are MARKETING experts. They just use real estate as their vehicle. They could just as well be selling pizza chain franchises.

Were I placing my money with a syndicator, I would make sure they come from a real estate background. I would make sure they were busying their minds with operational challenges, not focusing on building a "platform".  

Post: Comparison of syndication sponsors for an LP post GFC

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@John Blanton Take a listen to BP Podcast #378 (Brian Burke is Guest and just wrote a book for LP's on the topic of sponsor selection). 

While all the factors mentioned so far are meaningful in the decision making process, your selection needs to start with finding someone who has integrity and who you can trust. Without these, experience and the "numbers" do not matter.

Best of Luck! 

Post: to refi commerical property and pay a prepayment

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  • Ormond Beach, FL
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@Jeremiah Foley what is the existing loan balance and what is the max loan you can get under the refi without putting too much debt stress on the property? What are your personal investment goals/tolerances w/respect to cash flow & risk?

The difference between the existing loan terms and the new loan terms looks to be significant enough to justify going ahead and paying the penalty. But without knowing (1) loan balance amounts involved; (2) the level of the debt the property can handle; and (3) your personal investment goals/risk tolerances; it is difficult to say for certain. 

Post: How much does it cost to demolish a house?

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@Marcus Brown These photos are extracted from a 2019 MVS Cost Manual...your home is likely a Class D construction type (this is not an investment grading). So you would determine your PSF cost via the first data set and multiple result by 1.11 per the 2nd data set.

Hope this helps.

Post: Buyer defaults on a time is of the essence contract.

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@Greg Dickerson provides the best advice above. I am not an attorney, so I am sure the following story will not utilize the proper legal language for the actions/events that occurred.  

We were on the buy-side of a deal and decided to exercise our contractual right to pull out (our notice was delivered during the DD period). We followed all contractual procedures to a "T". The Seller refused to release our EMD. Following all the "rules", we sent letters, notices, etc. requesting immediate release of our EMD. These actions produced no results. The Seller still refused to release EMD. We had to file suit. This was in Nov. 2018.

Seller used all kinds of tactics to avoid being served the lawsuit. He changed lawyers, stayed away from known addresses, etc. Ultimately, we were finally able to demonstrate to a judge that Seller was actively avoiding service. The judge allowed us to serve the latest attorney on file and to also "serve" via public publication (newspaper notice). Once the attorney was served, the EMD was returned. This was 96 days later in Mar. 2019.

At this point, we were in pretty deep on attorney’s fees (+/- $15K) and decided to continue with the lawsuit to recapture said fees. It is April 15, 2020, and the lawsuit still has not been decided. We were supposed to have received a judgement on April 2, 2020, but of course the courts are closed because of CV-19. Judgement was postponed until June 2020.

Fortunately, the Seller's tactics and his attorneys' behavior (all three of them) pissed off our attorney and he decided to move forward on contingency after we racked up the +/- $15K. We are fairly confident we will prevail in the lawsuit. The Seller's counter-claim was that 96 days was a reasonable time frame to have returned the EMD and that the contract did not specify when the EMD had to be returned. They ignored the "time is of the essence" clause.

There are couple lessons here.

First, I would advise that all purchase sale agreements have the word “immediate” preceding any language that discusses the return of the EMD. The "time is of the essence" is fairly straightforward and seemed sufficient, but if the word immediate precedes the direction to return the EMD, you remove all questions about what is a "reasonable" time frame for its return.

Second, Buyer DD should not only include all that is pertinent about the property, but should also cover the Seller themselves. There was a very good reason we backed out of this deal.

The property in question was a 9-unit industrial warehouse. We requested all the standard documentation and then some. While we received the leases, we were only provided limited financials, and no records of tenant payment histories. 

OK, so maybe they just didn’t keep good records? This was a great building in a fantastic location, the lease terms were LL favorable, and the tenant base seemed strong. We still wanted to proceed. But before we did, I requested interviews with all tenants as a last-ditch effort to fill in some of the gaps. The Seller denied our request and warned us to stay away from the tenants until we owned the property.

While there had been a small red flag in the back of my mind because of the weak documentation, I became outright suspicious at Seller’s reaction to our request for tenant interviews. So I began researching the Seller. It was a Family Trust, so it took some digging but I eventually found some background on the Trustee.

Turns out, this Trustee had recently been released from an 8-year stint in prison for insurance fraud. He had owned-operated a disaster restoration company. This company would receive people’s insurance claim funds and then not complete the work. It was a massive ring of fraud. Thankfully, this person was caught, tried, and sentenced.

While finding out what we did about the Seller was enough for us to pull out, guess what type of business comprised the building’s largest tenant? That’s right, a disaster restoration company. We pulled out that day. We were not dealing with a good person. And boy was I glad I researched the Seller on top of everything else. I can only imagine the mess had we moved forward.

Finally, I will note that we have followed the sale status of building with an elevated level of interest. A lien will likely be our only way of collecting. To-date, the building is still for sale (I imagine other would-be Buyers are finding out what we did). The brokerage company has changed several times during our monitoring of the asset. In each instance, I have forwarded all the publicly published articles I uncovered on the Trustee. I want them to be aware of the type of person they are representing. Not one broker has reached back out to me with questions or comments.