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All Forum Posts by: Corey Meyer

Corey Meyer has started 22 posts and replied 66 times.

Post: Need financing fast for $189k Big Sky, MT studio STR!

Corey MeyerPosted
  • Investor
  • Big Sky, MT
  • Posts 66
  • Votes 28
Originally posted by @Josiah Pisel:

@Corey Meyer Can you do a HELOC for the down payment and do a conventional loan? Do you need hard money? I assume that condo that you are looking at is a "Hill Condo"? If it is the Hill Condos, be sure to review the last few meeting minutes of the HOA as well as the HOA finances.
Feel free to reach out if you have any questions or concerns...

@Josiah Pisel

Thanks for reaching out! Yes it is a Hill Studio. My Real Estate agent is also a Hill Condo owner and a member of th HOA board for the complex. She has briefed me on their latest minutes and I understand that I will go into the purchase of this property knowing that I will owe money for the siding project underway.

Post: Need financing fast for $189k Big Sky, MT studio STR!

Corey MeyerPosted
  • Investor
  • Big Sky, MT
  • Posts 66
  • Votes 28
Originally posted by @Mark Durham:

If it's a FSBO, go ahead and make the offer with a closing date as far out as you can negotiate. That'll give you time to find the money.

You can close faster if you can negotiate Owner Financing or other Creative Financing terms.

Thanks Mark! I made an offer!

Post: Need financing fast for $189k Big Sky, MT studio STR!

Corey MeyerPosted
  • Investor
  • Big Sky, MT
  • Posts 66
  • Votes 28
Originally posted by @Julie McCoy:

@Corey Meyer Having financing in place is really important!  If you have a good financial situation and some organized documentation, a good lender can probably get you a pre-qualification in about 24 hours.  But make sure you've got recent tax returns, proof of employment, W2s etc. 

Even if you aren't able to get it in time for this property, it will be good for you to have a pre-qualification for the next time the perfect property comes up!  (and if you don't already have a Realtor, go get one stat!)

MAYBE you can offer on the studio even without a pre-qualification, but in my market all offers are required to have a pre-qual or proof of funds with an offer.  In any case you'll want to get that sorted ASAP.  If you happen to have $189k sitting in a bank account of some variety, I'd suggest submitting an offer with proof of funds to cover you until you can get a loan in place.

If you can't do a conventional loan, I know a portfolio lender who will do STRs, though don't know if they could turn around a pre-qual quite that fast.  However, never hurts to ask!

I put a full price offer on the property without pre-qualification. I am sorting financing now. I have proof of investments with a stock portfolio, bitcoin, and savings that add up to a little over $100k. With a HELOC on my condo that should be right at $189k

Post: Need financing fast for $189k Big Sky, MT studio STR!

Corey MeyerPosted
  • Investor
  • Big Sky, MT
  • Posts 66
  • Votes 28

The perfect property that checks all my boxes for a short term rental just hit the market today and I don’t have financing in place!

I would like to put in a full price offer on a studio near the ski area of Big Sky Resort in Montana within 24 hours. I manage 6 Airbnb properties in town, one of which I own. Currently Big Sky is ranked as one of the top 20 American markets and gets an -A by AirDNA.

Recommendations?

Post: Montana house hack in a 1967 Vintage Camper

Corey MeyerPosted
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  • Big Sky, MT
  • Posts 66
  • Votes 28

Investment Info:

Mobile home other investment in Big Sky.

Purchase price: $4,000
Cash invested: $1,000
Sale price: $5,000

I call Montana home, and I have access to endless open space and public lands where I can mostly live for free. Thus, as a young single male who felt at home in the wilderness, it was a no brainer for me to buy my 1967 Kit Companion Camper as my first real estate investment. At the time of purchase, I spent half the year on the road as a guide/trip developer for a premier American travel company, and the other half I spent personally traveling abroad or planning my next adventure from Montana.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

The average rent in Big Sky is around $750-$1,200/month. The camper paid for itself in 4 months. I've called it my home base for the last four years, saving roughly $48,000 in rent. Airbnb is my primary source of income, and I am keen on what's trending in the short-term rental industry. As a millennial, I know what my peers are looking for while traveling. Alternative rentals such as vintage campers like mine that provide more of an "experience" often fetch a much higher price per night.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

I found this camper on craigslist, a college student had purchased it and spent a semester renovating it in his gargae. He was in a pinch to sell it as he was heading back to his homeland of Australia after his final semester at Montana State in Bozeman, Montana. I drive a relatively new Ford F-150 so pulling the camper wasn't a problem directly after purchase.

How did you finance this deal?

I paid for this deal, cash in full.

How did you add value to the deal?

I found creative solutions to find free places to live. There are many campgrounds on the fringe of Big Sky that I utilized to base as my home. Unfortunately, this isn't free, and you can only stay for a maximum of 16 days per site. I had a few secret spots I parked for free at but would have to keep my residence on the down-low while there. During the winter, I parked my home behind a restaurant where I was employed as a server.

What was the outcome?

I had the foresight of buying a condo in Big Sky soon after the purchase of this camper and knew I would most likely never live in the one-bedroom / one-bath condo I was looking to buy. A year later I followed through with buying a condo in Big Sky which I then launched on Airbnb and generated a cash flow too good to ever live there. Thus this camper continues to be my home to this day.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

The environmental elements I endure in the northern rocky mountains of Montana are my biggest challenges. Extreme cold and winter that seemingly lasts forever, most notably makes this life difficult. I pride myself on being self-reliant and for having the ability to live comfortably in uncomfortable circumstances. I don't have running water; I don't have a flushing toilet and I don't have a girlfriend! My living situation, at times, turns into a full-time survial situation.

Post: I can't afford to live in my home!

Corey MeyerPosted
  • Investor
  • Big Sky, MT
  • Posts 66
  • Votes 28

Investment Info:

Single-family residence buy & hold investment in Big Sky.

Purchase price: $235,000
Cash invested: $15,000

The Big Sky Bungalow is my flagship Real Estate investment which I purchased in 2016 specifically for the short-term rental market in Big Sky, Montana. The Bungalow currently ranks as one of the top 3 Airbnbs in the competitive short-term rental market of Big Sky. This one bedroom, one bathroom condo sees over 250 days a year booked and generates approximately 4-5x the revenue it would on the long term rental market.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

I was turned onto Airbnb in 2014 by a colleague of mine while on a familiarization tour of El Salvador with the Adventure Travel Trade Association. They suggested that I list my place on Airbnb as I was never home due to the fact that my job in the adventure travel industry had me traveling more days of the year than basing at home.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

This deal was relatively complex. First of all, I didn't own the condo I was living in. Secondly, my best friend held the lease under his name and had lived in the unit for six years. We decided to approach the landlord asking if they would be willing to sell the property. They agreed and we began to get financing and paperwork for a partnership in place.

Then it all fell through as my buddy proposed to his girlfriend.

How did you finance this deal?

The lease was soon turned over to me after my friends engagement and I informed the owners of my intent to buy if they were willing to sell. They weren't really looking to sell their investment property and it took months for a reply.

Secondly, it was extremley hard to get financed. I worked seasonally in the travel industry which traditional mortgage lenders dislike. Eventually Prime Mortgage pushed a 30 year/fixed mortgage through at a 3.625% interest rate if I could put 25% down.

How did you add value to the deal?

I found a gem of a property that wasn't on the market and was able to convince the owners to sell to me. It has never ranked below 5th on Airbnb when searching Big Sky, there are now over 800 properties listed.

I was hungry for this deal, I worked extra hard to save the $60,000 cash I needed to purchase the property. Fortunately, my job allowed me to save every penny of my salary leading up to the deal of my first real estate purchase.

What was the outcome?

I knew Big Sky, Montana was at a tipping point in 2016. Sure enough, within a month of my purchase some of the larger developers in town released a Big Sky 2025 plan which included over $150 million in infastructure at the public ski resort and other private establishments in town pledged bringing the number up to $1billion in local infastrcuture investments. Overnight every listing under $300K was gone.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

The biggest challenge now is that I can't afford to live in my own home and I don't want to pay rent in Big Sky. The Big Sky Bungalow generates my primary income, and unfortunately I have been priced out of the market here! Thus I moved into my camper which has been challenging primarily due to the extreme elements associated with living in the Northern American Rockies.

There is also a housing shortage in town and I am sometimes portayed as the bad guy among peers for Airbnbing.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

I worked with real estate agent Carrie Radtke at Big Sky Southeby's. Without her help I wouldn't have been able to purchase this property. It was her digging that found me the financing, her encouragement to not give up on the trying to purchase this property.

Post: First step to creating a resort like Tony Robbins on Fiji

Corey MeyerPosted
  • Investor
  • Big Sky, MT
  • Posts 66
  • Votes 28

@Iris Cruz @Dean Letfus,

What triggered my thought of off-shore purchasing was perhaps from my background spending the last decade in the "Travel and Leisure" industry finding the next spot Americans want to travel while developing and guiding trips for an American company that offers all-inclusive destination trips globally.  In the last five years, I have operated Airbnbs in one of the top 20 American markets which adds another eye when traveling as I am always checking in on how the short-term rental scene is in a location destination.  

I sometimes get this gut feeling when traveling abroad, like oh this is going to trend, I should buy here now!  For example, in 2016 I traveled to Tbilisi, Georgia and skied at Gudari where slopeside apartments were going for under $30k USD.  The economy was just starting to take off and the government was all in for tourism.  I think for me, taking part in helping build up the local economy by investing in real estate while spreading the word in my own country about an undiscovered unique place is the appeal.  Employing a few locals to manage and run it, I like the thought of supporting others abroad through monetary means.

 Last month I walked into Byron Bay, NSW and was instantly like I need to buy here.  If you are going to Oz right now, every American is asking if you are going to Byron Bay.  Cash flow might not matter, I think that place is going to appreciate through the roof and I believe Airbnb can get me close to the numbers needed to break even or cash flow positive.  

Post: First step to creating a resort like Tony Robbins on Fiji

Corey MeyerPosted
  • Investor
  • Big Sky, MT
  • Posts 66
  • Votes 28

@Dean Letfus Thanks again for the advice! I really enjoy traveling the world and have guided for an American company abroad. Adding some sort of foreign property to my real estate portfolio is high on my bucket list.

New Zealand is incredible, my sister lived in Auckland for a year and I visited her this past September there before spending 3 weeks on the South Island.

Post: Uber Ritzy Ski Resort Town Strategies?

Corey MeyerPosted
  • Investor
  • Big Sky, MT
  • Posts 66
  • Votes 28

@Alan Brown

It is hard to beat geographically, agreed! You are not alone in liking its appeal! Big Sky is a boom town.

In terms of short-term rental regulations Big Sky is completely unregulated at the moment. Since our town is unincorporated we don't have any city laws against short term rentals. The only thing stopping one is an individual HOA of a Condo's Association.

I was at the right place at the right time and began short-term renting my condo in 2014. This year it will gross just under $50k versus my first year at around $22k gross. My mortgage is just under $1k/month for the one bedroom one bathroom unit. www.bigskybungalow.com

<... manage short-term rentals

The problem I have is that I don’t have the luxury to not have cash flow, I need something that will at least come close to covering the mortgage!

Cheers-

Post: Uber Ritzy Ski Resort Town Strategies?

Corey MeyerPosted
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  • Big Sky, MT
  • Posts 66
  • Votes 28

@Nathan G.

This is a very helpful response Nathan. It brings clarity to me, I believe the podcast episodes I have been listening to really hammer into me the importance of cash flow over appreciation but I just couldn’t find it in my market.

Now that I think of it I had a friend whose mother bought a lot for $800k ski/in-ski/out to build on and before she broke ground she got an offer for triple the price she paid within one year of her purchase.