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All Forum Posts by: Chukwudi Motanya

Chukwudi Motanya has started 123 posts and replied 224 times.

Post: Multi Family Deal Practice #2

Chukwudi MotanyaPosted
  • Investor
  • Lithonia, GA
  • Posts 231
  • Votes 43

@Account Closed @John Casmon. Thanks Bob and John. That makes sense. I guess my follow up question to that is, when purchases of multi families are a bit rarer than SFH. What is the best way to find out what the going Cap rate is for a particular market?

Post: Multi Family Deal Practice

Chukwudi MotanyaPosted
  • Investor
  • Lithonia, GA
  • Posts 231
  • Votes 43

Thanks @Logan Hassinger. When you look at a listing and you are trying to analyze, what is your process?

Post: Multi Family Deal Practice #2

Chukwudi MotanyaPosted
  • Investor
  • Lithonia, GA
  • Posts 231
  • Votes 43

Hi All,

I want to get into buying Multi Family properties, and I believe the best way for me to get used to analyzing multi family properties will be to analyze 100 different potential deals so I get used to crunching the numbers.

I already invest in single family houses, but now want to upscale. I am used to crunching the numbers for single family houses, but not so for multi families. I want to run it by the community to get some feedback so I get practice and get better

Here is my second property:

From this listing it is an 89 unit, building size is 42,720 Square Feet, it was built in the 1967, occupancy is 100% and average rent is $695, but we are given that NOI according to seller is $456,000 which makes for a Cap according to seller of 6% and purchase price of $7,600,000.

Annual Gross Potential Income = $742,260

Gross Expense: (Assuming 50% expense prediction, right now seller is saying 38%, we would need breakdown on what is included in expenses and we what recurring and non recurring) (371,130)

Conservative NOI: $371,130

Conservative Cap: 4.9%

PITI Payments: (367,186) (Assuming 5.5% interest and 25% down)

Net cash Flow per year: $3,944

Would not cash flow based on this number. But interesting thing to look into is that fact that it is a Class A property. They are saying 38% for expenses.

What should I be looking out for / what may I be doing wrong?

Best,

Chudi

Post: Multi Family Deal Practice

Chukwudi MotanyaPosted
  • Investor
  • Lithonia, GA
  • Posts 231
  • Votes 43

Thanks @Logan Hassinger. I would most likely be an out of state investor when I am making my purchase, and I will need Capex and PM Assumptions. If I am trying to go through MLS listing to analyze which deals make sense to dig deeper after a first dive, what is the best method I could use to estimate these possible Capex and PM needs?

Post: Multi Family Deal Practice

Chukwudi MotanyaPosted
  • Investor
  • Lithonia, GA
  • Posts 231
  • Votes 43

Hi All,

I want to get into buying Multi Family properties, and I believe the best way for me to get used to analyzing multi family properties will be to analyze 100 different potential deals so I get used to crunching the numbers.

I already invest in single family houses, but now want to upscale. I am used to crunching the numbers for single family houses, but not so for multi families. I want to run it by the community to get some feedback so I get practice and get better

Here is my first property

http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/19720619/5327-Bell-St-Houston-TX/

I'm crunching the numbers on this. trying to understand how to look at cash flow and what makes a good deal. Still a lot of questions on my end on how to correctly go about this so I'm going to just rant about what I'm seeing and spitball to see what you guys think I might be missing. Also what I will do to get more perspective is ask people on bigger pockets to see what they think. So here it goes.

The Cap Rate for this is projected to be around 10%. That is taking the "As is" Annual Revenue of $90,780 and subtracting what the owner has as the following expenses;

Gross Income: $90,780


Vacancy (5%) (4,539)

Electricity (14,400)

Water (6,000)

Trash (1,500)

Gas (3,000)

Lawn (900)

Maintenance (2,400)

Insurance Expense (6,000)

Property Tax (5,962)

Advertising Expense (600)

Net Operating Income: 45,301

These are all current expenses not Pro Forma. Leads you to an NOI of $45,301. On this alone, this would be numbers that I would be happy with, but a few things scare me. My biggest question is if there are expenses being omitted. We would obviously have to have a management company conducting our management being out of state investors. That would fall into the expense line and reduce our NOI. and Also I do not see a line item designated for reserve capex. In practice, what do people do about this?

Now on a debt service basis, I will assume that we will have LTV of 75%, and 5% debt with amortization of 25 years for our financing.

Principal and interest payment

PITI Annual: (23,675)

Levered Free Cash Flow Annual: $22,174

Cash flow per month: $1,847

Cash flow per month per unit: $108

In terms of initial Equity, with the assumption that we will be putting down ~$112,000 of equity into the property, and then also ~$23,000 of closing costs (Simply percentage assumption, have no idea what closing costs will entail :)) and about ~$50,000 of repairs (Also simply a percentage cost, do not have complete understanding of what will need to go into this, however it is close to Marcus assumption that you should assume around ~$3,000 of work per unit.)

Equity Contribution: ~$112,000

Closing Costs: ~$23,000

Repairs: ~$50,000

Total Cash Contribution into property: ~$185,000

So from this assumption, we would have a year Cash on Cash return of about ~12%.I don't think that's bad at all. But listing below the highlights and risks that we would have to look into

Risk:

We do not know about Reserve Capex

No inclusion of property management costs

No insight into amount of repairs needed

Missing historical numbers on this property to get better sense of financial performance

Do not know motive of the agent for selling

Highlights:

Only 88% occupied

Rents are a little below market

Already cash flowing on current numbers

I'm going to try to do a write up like this daily

Post: Does the money belong to me or the Tenant?

Chukwudi MotanyaPosted
  • Investor
  • Lithonia, GA
  • Posts 231
  • Votes 43

Hi all,

I took control of the house in February 5th and there was an existing tenant inside the house. At the time, the existing owner had a property manager who was looking over the house. The tenant paid the rent for the month of February to the property manager, then the previous owner instructed the property manager to give me the entire rent of February.

Everything seemed fine, but a few days later, I get a call from the tenant asking why they had to pay February rent, when they already pre paid for February at the beginning of the lease. Confused, I looked into the lease that I was given from the Property Manager after closing. I realized that I had been given the wrong lease. The correct lease did show that February rent was pre paid, but the Tenant paid the rent anyway on February. Now the tenant is requesting the money back and is taking me to court for it.

I think how things should have gone down, the original owner should have given me the rent money at closing, but he is living in Singapore and wants nothing to do with this transaction

What is the right move in this situation? How can I prevent something like this in the future?

Thanks all,

Chudi

Post: Title Transfer into LLC Question

Chukwudi MotanyaPosted
  • Investor
  • Lithonia, GA
  • Posts 231
  • Votes 43

No worries. Thanks @Andreas W.and

Post: Title Transfer into LLC Question

Chukwudi MotanyaPosted
  • Investor
  • Lithonia, GA
  • Posts 231
  • Votes 43

I plan to definitely in the coming months. Understanding that you are not an attorney and only sharing your opinion, why is it not an effective corporate veil? and how does one create one in this instance? @Andreas W.

Post: Credit Union Financing

Chukwudi MotanyaPosted
  • Investor
  • Lithonia, GA
  • Posts 231
  • Votes 43

Thanks all for the response. @Darryl Dahlen That would make sense. And would most likely mean not my best option since I will be absentee. @Martin Carstens Makes sense Martin. Were these multi families?

@Chris Soignier, not worth the hassle?

Post: Title Transfer into LLC Question

Chukwudi MotanyaPosted
  • Investor
  • Lithonia, GA
  • Posts 231
  • Votes 43

@Wayne Brooks Thanks Wayne. So I should still talk with my lender at the end of the day then?