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All Forum Posts by: Cliff Benner

Cliff Benner has started 12 posts and replied 267 times.

Post: RV Park development

Cliff Benner
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Quote from @Mike H.:
Quote from @Cliff Benner:
Quote from @Mike H.:

I've designed and built several RV resorts South of Houston within the past few years.  For sure one of the biggest hurdles is working with the utility provider (electrical).  I'd be happy to look at your layout and offer some suggestions and tips.


 What type of Zoning is best for something like this or what do you specifically do when it comes to Due Diligence for Zoning?


 So far, all of the RV resorts we've completed were in Counties.  I did have conversations regarding potential projects within City limits but we've concluded that the restrictions would add a substantial development cost increase.  Given the nature of the rv parks, the outskirts of cities would be ideal along major freeways (or at least not too far from a major freeway)...of course there are different types of parks that cater to a variety of clientele which can range from seasonal workers, individuals who can't qualify for rental homes/apartments or purchase their own home.  

Many variables come into play when it comes to zoning.  I'd start with a generalized budget and determine what type of clientele one would be comfortable with working with.  


 So start with the end in mind and work backwards from there to find areas to get into, makes sense to me

Anything special to look for in Zoning laws when looking for developing short term cabins, that you can think of?

Thanks Mike!

Post: RV Park development

Cliff Benner
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Quote from @Mike H.:

I've designed and built several RV resorts South of Houston within the past few years.  For sure one of the biggest hurdles is working with the utility provider (electrical).  I'd be happy to look at your layout and offer some suggestions and tips.


 What type of Zoning is best for something like this or what do you specifically do when it comes to Due Diligence for Zoning?

Post: No Excuses! For not being able to invest in real estate

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Quote from @Shawn Parsh:

Cliff,

I agree with your comment that the "why" has to be there. When I started out many years ago I was living in a basement apartment with no furniture. I was living pay check to pay check and was looking for options. For me real estate was it. Unlike many others I read how to books and then put what they said into action. I figured what do I have to lose. It's not like they are going to take away my stuff given that I didn't have anything. Thank you for your input. 


 I love stories like these! I came from a poor family and lived with little amounts, ramen noodles, etc. I watched my dad get laid off just so the companies could save money and watched my mom get excited for $.50 raises like it was a gift from God. My wife had a similar upbringing so we decided to push for ourselves to build businesses because, "why not" and so we would never have to feel the way they did in those situations. Oh no, maybe we cant buy organic whatever's or we live with what we have(10 year tvs and Xboxes) but then dump everything we can into building up to work for ourselves! We messed up on our first rental and got pushed back a few years but we took that lesson into our other businesses and now we are taking off with them! Love hearing this! You are the type of person we love seeing succeed, like most BPers! 

I am a Bookkeeper if you are looking for one to Outsource your Books, feel free to message me! 

Post: Small Surplus in Budget... Pay Down Principal or Put in Savings?

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@Bruce Woodruff sounds like you found out the "fun" way like I did!

Got some horror stories to real estate investors around the campfire??

I would agree with the Savings. Build it up for repairs or more acquisitions. 

Post: Looking for any online REI meetups

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I dont have an online meetup but more then happy to talk Shop!

Post: If you use a CPA or Tax Professional, how did you find him or her?

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Quote from @Jeff Love:
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Right now my real estate portfolio is not big enough to justify a Real Estate CPA or Tax Accountant yet. 

 Cliff, how would someone know if their portfolio is big enough to justify? Would you say your perception may be different from most people because of your accountant background? I only have a single rental (at the moment) and a simple W2 job. Because I'm not an accountant or versed in tax code and law wouldn't I want a CPA to ensure everything is legally tight and as advantageous as it can be?


 I do outsource my Taxes, but I meant having a Real Estate Tax Accountant or a CPA who I chat with to help create me a long term strategy. My Real Estate plan is slow and long, I don't plan to live on the income so it may take me a few years to justify a $2k expense for a conversation or for a CPA to handle my returns. When I worked in Public Accounting, the firms charged way more than I think they are worth for a small portfolio. Yes, they have an Accountant whose job is it to know all Real Estate and Tax, but is me saving $1,500 a year with their strategy worth the $2k bill? That is what I meant, get the best bang for your buck. If you think hiring a CPA to discuss your plan, how you can do it, and all the roads you can take with that, than that is the best option for you! I like to think of it like the BP Money Podcast thinks of it, find the best value but if something is emotionally affecting you, than target that and do what it takes to get that solved and then you don't have to worry about it when you go to sleep. 

For your situation, one rental and just W2 Income, I would suggest finding a Tax Accountant, CPA or not. Ask them all the Tax questions you could to get a basic understanding of it. Then as you build your portfolio look to hire a new Tax Accountant or CPA to match your growing needs. Again though, focus on what you think is best for your business and helps you sleep at night.

Post: No Excuses! For not being able to invest in real estate

Cliff Benner
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My wife and I nailed down our WHY for everything we do and strive for. This makes it easier to stay motivated. That and a distrust of other being in control of my life. While where I work is great and I learn a lot/make a good amount of money, I am one bad decision they make from my life being completely different and thrown into turmoil with nothing I can do about it. 

So we have gone into business, I can work decent or very hard at my 9-5 and get a 5% raise either way. For our businesses, I can work hard and push to find leads and increase my revenue! With this push, we bought a business last year and are in a position to push the revenue up, we pivoted our Coaching business to add my Bookkeeping services and then increase revenue by $3k the first year and have already doubled our monthly revenue this month. Real Estate is our retirement plan and we put a PM in charge who has been amazing and now I barely do anything besides the Books for it monthly. 

Long Story Short, develop a very truthful "Why" and realize that you are the only one who can get you there. If it is easy to brush off, it's a goal not a "Why" .

Post: Structuring a 50/50 partnership w/ my parents

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Quote from @Andrew Freed:

@Alex Long - Setting up a partnership or joint venture is a pretty straight forward process. You hire an attorney (or do this yourself) to set up a LLC with both you and your parents owning 50% of it. You also need the attorney to set up an operating agreement which designates the terms of the partnership. Once the LLC is set up, you create a bank account, your parents and you fund the account, use the funds for the down payment and operate out of that account.

Once the tax season ends, you need a CPA to complete the taxes for the JV entity hence having good books is instrumental. You need up to date profit and loss statements along with balance sheets hence definitely get a good bookkeeper to help stay on top of that. Once taxes are filled, the CPA will issue K1's to all of the owners of the LLC and that will flow down to your personal taxes. Normally, depending on the state, a LLC can cost anywhere from $1-2K to set up and then taxes can cost anywhere from $500-2k to complete. Bookkeeping usually runs a couple hundred a month for each LLC.

Lastly, when seeking lenders, see if any local credit unions or small banks will allow you to buy an investment property and put it directly into a LLC rather than putting it into the LLC after the fact. It's just easier that way and you do not have to worry about the due on sales clause. I hope this helps!

 I agree with @Andrew Freed, have a Bookkeeper help keep them in order. As a Bookkeeper, I do a lot of clean up when I onboard clients, because they just don't know what they don't know, and they would just pay a Tax Accountant to do it at Tax time, and they usually miss things because they don't see your month to month items. But if you are getting into Partnerships, it's very important to have all the details and books clean from the start. Usually Finances are the hardest part of working with others and if they books are clean you can show them at any point to ease their concerns.

Post: Accounting software for real estate investors

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I use QuickBooks for my clients, I have used Wave, which is free, but you get what you pay for. It's not the best but it is a lot better than most of the Free Real Estate softwares I have seen, but this is because I make sure the software allows me to create Journal Entries, in case adjustments need to be made. It really depends on what you need and how you want your financials to read so you can make informative decisions. 

Post: Attention Creative Finance Minds

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maybe you can find a lender who will allow you to put the equity in those units as collateral for the down payment?