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All Forum Posts by: Cliff Benner

Cliff Benner has started 13 posts and replied 308 times.

Post: Is Setting Up an Entity the Best Move for Scaling Our Family Real Estate Portfolio?

Cliff Benner
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  • Accountant
  • Denver, CO
  • Posts 311
  • Votes 144
Quote from @Stephen Nelson:

Two random comments but I'll mention because it seems sort of relevant that I used to teach the Choice of Entity class to CPAs and attorneys in the masters in taxation program at the country's big graduate tax school. That class was basically a semester-long discussion of S corporations, LLCs and trusts.

But back to the two random comments:

1. Simplicity is scalable and complexity really isn't. Thus you really want to not overcomplicate. Or do strutural stuff you don't understand well. You do not for example want to end up with a dozen partnership returns to deal with unless you first know how much work that entails. (Also a related comment: In a business where you need to watch costs--which is basically any business but especially leveraged businesses in a sluggish economy--you want to watch out for the costs of the managing the complexity too.)

2. I personally think a "mothership" LLC that owns single-member LLCs that hold individual properties is pretty scalable. The mothership LLC is a partnership with you and your partners as its owners. At that level, you can do special allocations (so not guaranteed payments) to reflect your extra work.) The single member LLCs are all disregarded entities so don't need their own federal returns though they may need state-level returns.


I like comment "2" Stephen talked about, I think this is very appropriate for a lot of Investors that want to partner together with funding from each and then control individual LLCs that is owned by them. That is how I set up my P-Ship with my wife and I, so we can just own other LLCs with ease or partner with others through that "Mothership" LLC as Stephen Said. Then you can add in money to the top LLC, split it how you want, then disburse funds down into individual LLCs that you to purchase more real estate with. You will not be able to get loans under your personal name since you'll be buying the property as an LLC but you can get hard money loans and DSCR loans and still get funding that way.

Post: Financing for the Purchase of a Business

Cliff Benner
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  • Accountant
  • Denver, CO
  • Posts 311
  • Votes 144

@Leonard Nester where you able to purchase it? What kind of funding did you use?

Post: Need help! Need hard money loan for business + RE deal cash cow assisted living home!

Cliff Benner
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  • Accountant
  • Denver, CO
  • Posts 311
  • Votes 144

Sounds like this was a great investment, did you take over operations on the business or hire a manager?

Post: What are the steps to buy from CREXI or LoopNet?

Cliff Benner
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  • Accountant
  • Denver, CO
  • Posts 311
  • Votes 144

@Daniel Lioz how has this process been? Need any help?

Post: Gathering Funds to Purchase an Established Business

Cliff Benner
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  • Accountant
  • Denver, CO
  • Posts 311
  • Votes 144

@Ryan Morgan Where you able to purchase it? If so, how did you make it happen?

Post: Purchasing an existing business

Cliff Benner
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  • Accountant
  • Denver, CO
  • Posts 311
  • Votes 144

@Michael McGinnis Where you able to find some help or is this something you are still interested in?

@Lawrence Maffucci were you able to find some answers for yourself too?

Post: Buying Small Businesses

Cliff Benner
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  • Accountant
  • Denver, CO
  • Posts 311
  • Votes 144
Quote from @Tucker Cummings:

I'd love to learn about buying businesses. I don't know anything about that right now and I'm not sure if that's something I want to add to my portfolio down the line or just stick with real estate, but I'd love to know how that process works, what it takes to buy a business, etc.

Anybody know of other resources out there that are specific to small business investing? Books, blogs/vlogs (something similar to BP maybe?), podcasts, etc.

thanks!

 Hey @Tucker Cummings and @Jessica Piff, have you two found some resources? 

I help with Business Purchasing Financials and have a list of some good resources if you are still looking for some?

Post: Need help! Need hard money loan for business + RE deal cash cow assisted living home!

Cliff Benner
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  • Accountant
  • Denver, CO
  • Posts 311
  • Votes 144

Those are some amazing terms! 

Did you find the Business financial review to be easy? Or what would have helped that process?

Post: Need help! Need hard money loan for business + RE deal cash cow assisted living home!

Cliff Benner
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  • Accountant
  • Denver, CO
  • Posts 311
  • Votes 144
Quote from @Keegan Schaub:
Quote from @Cliff Benner:

@Keegan Schaub where you able to make the deal happen or what happened?


 Yes, I was!


 Congrats!!!! What kind of Loan did you get or how did you make it happen?

Post: Raising Capital for Business Purchase w/ Great Real Estate

Cliff Benner
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  • Accountant
  • Denver, CO
  • Posts 311
  • Votes 144

@Shannon Gauthier Were you able to make the deal happen? What did you come up with?