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All Forum Posts by: Clayton Smith

Clayton Smith has started 15 posts and replied 85 times.

Post: Looking for literature reccomendations

Clayton Smith
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  • Tuscaloosa
  • Posts 87
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Quote from @Jonathan Warner:

Hello all,

This is my first post on BP. I live in Tuscaloosa, Alabama and I am looking to begin real estate investing in the next year. 

Long term goals: Create a portfolio of commercial properties to generate passive income to beat out the returns (about 8%) of my current stock portflio by a significant enough margin to make it worth the effort.


Short term goals: Fix and flip a property in my local area to get my feet wet.

I understand the three major assets to bring to the table for this venture are capital, time, and knowledge/experience. I am trying to gain more knowledge right now before I start. Once I start I will begin with a flip to gain more experience. I dont have any other plans to bridge the short-term and long-term goals mentioned above.

I have enough money but I'm lacking time and experience. A lot of the literature comes from the perspective of replacing a W-2 job. To be honest, I need a different perspective that is more in line with my goals. I'm looking for something more along the lines of diversifying my more stock-based investment portfolio in a more active way. However, the end goal is to systemize in a fashion that will allow more passive involvement while retaining enough ROI to beat out my stock portfolios. I understand that, at the beggining, I will need to be more active and I'm willing to put in the time and effort for the first year or two to get to that point.

I am also open to the idea of syndications, private equity pool funds, and private lending in the future. But I have no immediate plans to get in involved yet.

Any pointers or literature reccomendations would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

,West



 Jonathan, 

I also live and invest in Tuscaloosa and hold a full time W2. I am mainly LTR rentals with a mix of student and section 8 type properties. I also recently purchased my first commercial property over the summer and am in works on a few other larger projects. As well as a steady stream of flips for the past 36 months are so. 

Feel free to connect and message me. I always enjoy meeting local investors. 

I would recommend cash flow quadrant by Robert Kiyosaki. It provides a proper framework on how to be an "investor" vs having a job disguised as an investment. 

 

Post: Has anyone done an AirBNB in Tuscaloosa?

Clayton Smith
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  • Tuscaloosa
  • Posts 87
  • Votes 38
Quote from @Jon Martin:
Quote from @Clayton Smith:

@Marie Grabo 

I have a STR in Tuscaloosa currently. The city does make it somewhat difficult to set up but it is more paperwork than anything else. You have to go to the zoning board to get it approved but it is typically a formality, unless the neighbors push back it should get approved. They will limit the days it can be used as an STR for the 1st year but in my experience they do not follow up to track the actually days. Biggest thing is make 80% of your revenue in football season and it is ok the rest of the year. Feel free to ask me any questions.


 Great info, thank you! What's your game day/weekend markup?


 Depends on the game. I have a 3 bed / 2 bath 10 minutes from the stadium. Right now it may be $125-$150 a night. Last year for the Texas game I rented it for $1250 a night with a 3 night min. Typically game is around $500 a night with a 3 night min. 

Post: Has anyone done an AirBNB in Tuscaloosa?

Clayton Smith
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Tuscaloosa
  • Posts 87
  • Votes 38

@Marie Grabo 

I have a STR in Tuscaloosa currently. The city does make it somewhat difficult to set up but it is more paperwork than anything else. You have to go to the zoning board to get it approved but it is typically a formality, unless the neighbors push back it should get approved. They will limit the days it can be used as an STR for the 1st year but in my experience they do not follow up to track the actually days. Biggest thing is make 80% of your revenue in football season and it is ok the rest of the year. Feel free to ask me any questions.

Post: New to wholesaling in Alabama

Clayton Smith
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  • Tuscaloosa
  • Posts 87
  • Votes 38

@Alan Wilson Hey Alan I have a deal in Tuscaloosa. If you are interested let me know. 

Post: Getting Started/General Advice

Clayton Smith
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Tuscaloosa
  • Posts 87
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Hey @Carter McGill

I am an investor in Tuscaloosa. Feel free to reach out with any questions. I would recommend getting the HELOC set up. You can usually get one for 90% LTV minus the mortgage. So you should be able to get one for $60k or so. They are not expensive to set up. The last one I did was under $1000. Like a credit card you only pay interest on the money you withdraw to use. I started to build my portfolio by buying a personal house and then turning it into a rental. If you decide to do that it is much easier to get the HELOC on you personal house than an investment property, another reason to set it up even if you don't "need" the cash. Plus once you move out of the property the bank has always let me keep my HELOC as is as long as I didn't sell.

Post: Determine value on raw land with permits in place.

Clayton Smith
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  • Tuscaloosa
  • Posts 87
  • Votes 38

Thanks for the info. I am in Alabama so the entitlements are not extremely long but do take around 6 months. The location of this development is pretty prime. I have been looking at it more in example 2. I just need to hone in on develope costs. 

Post: Looking for Insurance

Clayton Smith
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  • Tuscaloosa
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  • Votes 38
Quote from @Walter Pineda:

Hi everyone, great to have all your feedback on the forums. We are looking for Insurance in Tuscaloosa, Alabama can you refer an insurance carrier and how much coverage do you suggest?


 I am in the Tuscaloosa Market. I can connect you with my broker. He does a great job. 

Rates have gone insane compared to last year. 

Post: Determine value on raw land with permits in place.

Clayton Smith
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  • Tuscaloosa
  • Posts 87
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Quote from @Mike Wood:

@Clayton Smith No way is undeveloped raw land worth 20-25% of ARV. Maybe infill lots with existing roads, sidewalks, drainage, utilities, etc. in the best of area would be that high.

In my area (which has similar construction costs, but high value per ft2 than you), infill lots in the best areas (A+) would be 25% of finished value, which rental areas (B areas) being 15% of finished value.  That is infill lots where there is zero land development costs.

I would venture to guess that each lot (19 lots, assuming a townhouse style duplex is built on each) would value in the at $25k or less (5% or less) per lot, given the costs and risks associated with developing the raw land. 

As another stated, the only way to find out is the get an appraiser that has experience with raw land development, or talk to big developers and see what they will offer.


 Thanks for the info. I have talked to a few developers and once approval goes in place they are ready to make offers. I am working on getting an appraisal done. A typical infill lot would be $45-$50k in my area so I am basing some of the potential value on that. I actually have been thinking $25k per does sound about right so its good to hear that I am at least in the ballpark.  If it really is that large of a price difference I would consider putting in the infrasture myself. 

Post: Determine value on raw land with permits in place.

Clayton Smith
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Tuscaloosa
  • Posts 87
  • Votes 38
Quote from @Chris Seveney:
Quote from @Clayton Smith:

I purchased a 5 acre parcel of land with a single family home this year in the middle of my town. I am working with the city to get it rezoned to develop this property. I will go in front of the zoning board next month with my plot plan. As of right now I will be able to fit 38 town homes on the land. They will be side by side duplex style townhomes. The ARV for these will be $225-$250k each after construction. With the location being close to the University of Alabama there is also a possibility for the buyer to build these to rent for $1800-$2000 each. I am looking to sale the property and realize the gain instead of staying on for construction to a finished product. I listed to "on the market" and James Daner said that land typically sells for 20-25% of the ARV. But my question is how is the best way to value the land? I am thinking that in my market I should take no less than 15% of the ARV for the land. I do not plan on doing any of the land development. Just selling the raw land as is with permits in place so a builder can get started the next day. How should I determine the value? Should I pay for a commercial appraisal to make sure I list it for the right price?

My recommendation is to get an appraiser in to give some idea of pricing. Whats missing is the cost of construction. If it is costing $200k to build a unit worth $225-$250k then its not going anywhere anytime soon. The only major component is going to be land development costs and what will it cost to bring in the infrastructure.

Are you taking it all the way through entitlement and when you say permits are you referring to site plan approval? I assume you are not also designing the homes and getting building permits.

building costs in my area are around for this style should be $110-$115 SQFT. I talked with a developer that had similar plans at another site and they were going to build it out for $131k per unit. Land development should run about $500k. Infrasture is adjacent the property so the cost will be minimal for that. Land is level so not a ton of grade work. I am thinking build out will be $6.5 million give or take. ARV would be $8.5 mil on the low end $9.5 on the high end. Still a lot of meat on the bone for a developer paying me 15% ARV. I will take it through entitlements. I would not be designing the homes or getting the building permits. In my area we just need to give the city a general idea of what type of property will be built for approval. Not to have finished design. Less red tape for developers in my market.

Post: Determine value on raw land with permits in place.

Clayton Smith
Pro Member
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Tuscaloosa
  • Posts 87
  • Votes 38

I purchased a 5 acre parcel of land with a single family home this year in the middle of my town. I am working with the city to get it rezoned to develop this property. I will go in front of the zoning board next month with my plot plan. As of right now I will be able to fit 38 town homes on the land. They will be side by side duplex style townhomes. The ARV for these will be $225-$250k each after construction. With the location being close to the University of Alabama there is also a possibility for the buyer to build these to rent for $1800-$2000 each. I am looking to sale the property and realize the gain instead of staying on for construction to a finished product. I listed to "on the market" and James Daner said that land typically sells for 20-25% of the ARV. But my question is how is the best way to value the land? I am thinking that in my market I should take no less than 15% of the ARV for the land. I do not plan on doing any of the land development. Just selling the raw land as is with permits in place so a builder can get started the next day. How should I determine the value? Should I pay for a commercial appraisal to make sure I list it for the right price?