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All Forum Posts by: Christie Gahan

Christie Gahan has started 25 posts and replied 302 times.

Post: SDIRA & How does this work?

Christie GahanPosted
  • Investor
  • Hillsboro, OR
  • Posts 304
  • Votes 150

@Todd Goedeke   My post is near the top of the thread ... where it has always been.   I don't know why you would think I would take it down.  Kingston asked a question.  I answered the question.  Kingston thanked me for my comments. 

Post: SDIRA & How does this work?

Christie GahanPosted
  • Investor
  • Hillsboro, OR
  • Posts 304
  • Votes 150
Quote from @Todd Goedeke:

@Christie Gahan that is incorrect what you mentioned about Solo401ks. You can be your own custodian for a Solo401k. I recommend you read books or (view You Tube)written by IRA Financial founder,Adam Bergman.

The beauty of tax free cash flow of 14%+ ConC and no capital gains taxes ever, far outweigh any lost depreciation deductions.

This thread is getting complicated.  Kingston is not self employed and wrote that he has a 401k.  I didn't write anything about a Solo 401k.  
   My point is that, you don't want to underwrite your deals with a "standard" or "non self directed account" point of view.  Do not go this route if you are looking for depreciation.  I reccomend books by James Lange such as Roth Revolution and Retire Secure!  It is best to know what kind of account you already have ( IRA, 401K etc)  read the books just thinking about what you already have.  If you skip around between IRA,401k,SEP etc you may get the information all mushed together in your mind and it will be confusing.  Figure out what you have and then research your Self Directed and/or Roth options.  Always check with your accountant.  ( Not somebody that prepares tax returns.  An accountant or lawyer that loves strategy)   If you don't follow the rules, it may not be worth doing.  There are some massive tax savings here but the IRS does not make it easy!

Post: SDIRA & How does this work?

Christie GahanPosted
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  • Hillsboro, OR
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One big difference between owning real estate in a retirement account and owning it in your own name ?  Taxes!  The tax strategy is completely different.  The retirement account offers no write offs or deductions.  Do not underwrite these deals with the same criteria as you would for something you would own in your own name!  All expenses must be paid from retirement funds. ( You can't use any personal funds or credit cards to pay bills on the rental).  All profits must be deposited to retirement funds.  You must run this as a completely seperate business.  This is where the word "custodian" comes in.  In this case, the word custodian does not mean anything about children.  When you open your SDIRA or SD401k ... you use a company that will create a custodial account.  They are going to "see" every transaction and this keeps the IRS happy.  

  1. Open custodial account

   2. Transfer funds from retirement account

   3. New custodial retirement account buys real estate via pay cash or non recourse loan

    4.  All income and expenses go thru this custodial retirement account.  Note: you can Never hire a parent, sibling, child,grand child or yourself to work on the property and none of these people can live in the property.

    5. When you reach retirement age , you can access the funds.

Post: Am I too old to get started? What is a realistic plan for me?

Christie GahanPosted
  • Investor
  • Hillsboro, OR
  • Posts 304
  • Votes 150
Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:
Quote from @Jim K.:

I'm trying to tell the OP that failure is a lot more useful than not trying.

I've met a LOT of people who don't try because they're terrified of failure.

Yessir. One of my favorite quotes is from a Civil War General (Stonewall Jackson)    "Never take counsel of your fears"....



 Thanks, Bruce. I absolutely needed to read that today.  

Post: Am I too old to get started? What is a realistic plan for me?

Christie GahanPosted
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  • Hillsboro, OR
  • Posts 304
  • Votes 150
Quote from @Sarah Ali:
Quote from @Dan H.:

I do not view you as too old, but I question your timing.   RE performed outstanding from 2011 to 2021.   Appreciation was great, cash flow was great, few areas had cracked down on STRs, etc.  

interest rates have more than doubled since the end of 2021.   Prices have not fallen due to low inventory due to how many owners have loans far below current rates. Low supply leads to rising prices.   So we have all time high in RE prices and interest rates near highest in many years.  Combined this leads to high cost of leveraged purchases. 

In virtually all large city markets it is currently cheaper to rent than to own.  This implies in those markets the average residential investment purchase is cash flow negative. 

In addition, active residential RE is not passive even if using a PM.   It requires more effort/work to be successful than most non experienced investors realize.  

Normally this may be where I suggest passive RE options such as a limited partner in a syndication, but in the last couple of years many syndications are struggling.. So similar to golden era of active RE having possibly passed due to higher interest rates, I fear it may also be true for syndications (I am in one syndication that I fear an equity loss which would be my first time if this comes to pass).  

Note RE has been an outstanding investment in recent times, but it will not always be the best investment option.   In the case of the OP, they would be entering a tough RE market with virtually no knowledge including no understanding of the effort required and the risks. 

I recommend people enter RE at this time only if it is a passion and they are extremely motivated and hard working.  These people can succeed even in a tough RE market.  There will be many people who entered RE in 2023 that fail in large part because they did not have a good understanding of the underwriting, thought RE investing was more passive than it is, expected interest rates to drop in the short term, and/or over leveraged.  

RE investing was easy a couple years ago.  The cash flow was far better due to lower interest rates and the RE appreciation was outstanding.  It is different today.  

By the way I have not purchased since Dec 2021 (purchased $4m that month) because we do mostly BRRRR (and no flips) and my underwriting shows after refinancing that I would be large negative cash flow.

Good luck





 I know, I missed the bus... If RE is no longer a good option, do you have any other suggestions? 


 Wait!  Let's not throw  the baby out with the bathwater!  You can and should invest in real estate   The last few years, the wind was really at your back.  You could make some mistakes and come out okay with buyers willing to pay over asking price.  But, please don't feel you missed out and can't ever do it.  

  Yes, mortgages bring some risk.  Learn to understand the risk and how to minimize it.  IMHO,    Not having any investments is risky.  The plan that the govt would take care of me in my old age would terrify me.

Sign up for a class on Personal Finance or Personal Investing at a local Jr College.  Learn about stocks and bonds and real estate from someone that is not out to sell you anything and not going to steer you in a particular out come.  Understand how they work together.  

Since, you are not working full time ( ?),  I'd look for a side gig working for other real estate investors.  You mentioned understanding systems etc.  Can you help someone set up systems to run there business from a distance ?  Work with spread sheets ?  Data mining?  Finding off market leads?  Also, look for realtors, property managers, co hosts...  There is always a need for a responsible person who can work a few hours to meet a contractor, sit around and wait for an appliance delivery etc.   It won't come anywhere near your salary but you can net work and make a couple bucks while networking.

Yes, you have a lot to learn but you can learn it.  Once you have learned more, it won't be so scary.  

Post: Real Big Pickle. . .

Christie GahanPosted
  • Investor
  • Hillsboro, OR
  • Posts 304
  • Votes 150
Quote from @Michael Vilasi:

Update. 

The sick kid story was always a bit suspicious but I didn't have a reason to not believe them. I could have possible went to the woman's employer and asked about time off and see what information they would have freely gave me? That felt a little excessive. They did pay me in full for the month with the following month's rent on time so I wasn't that worried at the time. 


The check thing is what really put the nail in the coffin for me with the renters. I still cannot believe the bank deposited a business check into a personal account. That is a big no no for the bank to begin with. The update is, the tenant has sent me half of the check amount and sending the other half or sent the other half on Friday. I'm waiting on the mail to come. 

I am on a monthly lease for May and told them I will post a notice to quit in May to vacate by May 31st. 

Appreciate the input from everyone. I udnerstand this is a business and not a charity but of course having to make these decisions the first time is a little difficult. I think about my family and being in that situation. The property manager is a good idea but having only two rentals so far, I wanted to keep the cash flow while could. Pm's may want close to 10% on LTR? that is taking 30% of my net profit monthly. I'll start interviewing PM co's and consider that as next step. 

Happy renting BP community. 


 Michael, you are doing great.  It's a shock to realize how scummy the scumbags of the world are.  Have you decided about reporting to police?  Even if you are not going to report, I would tell them that I would decide after their move out inspection.  Give them a little motivation to get that place really clean.  Change the locks immediately.  Maybe a camera that shows if anyone comes or goes.  I'm pretty certain that they will have friends that you won't like.  Don't give them a place to party.  

Quote from @Chris Seveney:
Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:
Quote from @Henry Clark:

Was out discing ground up this afternoon to plant oats tomorrow.  Keeps our taxes as Agriculture versus commercial.  I’ll

 have to do a post asking what you would plant to keep your zoning.  

Isn't there an APP for that?


There is no app, but I have built a wonderful community of investors that is life altering. This community is the greatest ever. We will talk about what to plant to keep your zoning, as this is such a hot topic coming into the next five years and the number of deals that will be out there for this will be off the charts. We have coordinators in house to who can handle the entire transaction and setup a LLC for $5k through a company affiliation, then multi layer it 75 times because we want you to protect the assets you have which include the $5k credit card debt and the $17 in cash you have in your bank account.

If this sounds like something you want, because you know you cannot live without this, then send me $5k to sign up..

 Chris, Gonna need an affiliate code for that!  And, the answer is Buckwheat.  I'm laughing at this post, because I met a young man last night that is gonna plant my back half acre in buckwheat for me.  ( Sorry, Henry Clark....but half acre is the best I can do.)  No tax benefits but saving me time and money by not having to mow, fertilize, water ... If you want to keep your Exclusive Farm Zone tax status .....  Christmas Trees.   Llamas are popular with city people that move out to the country.  Obviously, a big mistake.  ; )   Any Newbies reading this thread ....  the nugget of gold in all this is the tax efficiency of Henry Clark !

Post: Squatters!!! - Sacramento, CA

Christie GahanPosted
  • Investor
  • Hillsboro, OR
  • Posts 304
  • Votes 150
Quote from @Scott Scoville:
Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:
Quote from @Christie Gahan:
Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:
Quote from @Patricia Steiner:

If ever there was cause to come together and fight for better enforcement laws, the issue of squatters is it.  How the law 'protects' their 'rights' to breaking the law and stealing possession of a property is beyond me.  The thought of paying them to leave makes me ill but the $2500 spent on doing so was a cheap date considering the other options.  Crazy...


It's insane. I saw a news story this week about squatters breaking into a home while the people were home and claiming tenant rights. The police wouldn't do anything...they refuse to look at leases or deeds.....amazing world we have. But people vote for politicians that allow this so someone must like it....?

We need to figure out some strategies for this.   Maybe rental agreements need to be recorded like a deed?  Right now anybody can create a fake lease and say they live in a house.  Police deal with criminal matters not civil.  How can we make this a criminal matter?   Something we can prosecute quickly.  If this escalates, people are going to get shot and killed.

We can fix this easily - this did not used to be an issue. It is now because of L*****L politicians and the people that vote for them. Our society is broken top to bottom, pick any topic.....

We just need a reset, like when you do a 'restore' on your computer.


Yeah, agree. It had to get really bad before it gets better. Hopefully our politicians are going to wake up and start addressing these issues.


I dealt with this in a different political era.  Please don't make this about party politics because then nothing will get done.  I would like to read more actionable items.  I know the oldies ... Dobermans in the house is a classic.  My local sherrif has a policy for vacant homes that you can register the address of a vacant home and give them permission to enter at any time with out a warrant.  I think that is great.  Maybe stock the house with homemade cookies for the officers too.  I remember stories in the 2009 era of people paying off duty law enforcement to stay in their homes and/or park the patrol vehicle in the drive way.  I don't know if it happened but it is a great story.  If I had a vacant house I would love to have a patrol vehicle parked there.  Back in the day, these criminals had to learn the tricks of the trade from other criminals.  Now social media is making it easier and some folks seem to think they are making a statement.  The only statement I think it makes is about their stupidity and lack of character.  

Post: Overextending? Need advice from the old timers

Christie GahanPosted
  • Investor
  • Hillsboro, OR
  • Posts 304
  • Votes 150

Hannah:  Maybe it's time to get a partner?  Maybe you can wholesale the deal?  You seem to be finding good deals.  Might be time to network and get some money in your back pocket.  

Was your offer accepted?  

Post: Overextending? Need advice from the old timers

Christie GahanPosted
  • Investor
  • Hillsboro, OR
  • Posts 304
  • Votes 150
Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:
Quote from @Hannah Joy:
Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:

Relax....you're young, already doing great and this is not a race. If you're feeling that stressed, just wait a while and rethink this....

Just my $0.02


 Thanks Bruce, I love this. I forget it isn't a race. It feels like one sometimes when I am sitting at my desk job dreaming of early retirement through real estate. I'm ready to spend my time wandering the woods looking for elderberries, pondering the meaning of life :) 


 Lol, I get ya. But getting to an early retirement with a stroke from all the stress and pressure is probably not your goal :-)

I'd just relax and enjoy what you already have, do a shot of tequila and go lay in a lounge chair and enjoy.....


Bruce, I might just take that advice myself!   :)