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All Forum Posts by: Chris Rich

Chris Rich has started 0 posts and replied 102 times.

Post: Need help find a tenant for my first rental property

Chris RichPosted
  • Property Manager
  • Orlando, FL
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Like others have said, 2 weeks is not that long.  I have some PM contacts in north Texas and they are running around 24 days on market right now. In Orlando, across our portfolio, we are sitting at 20 days currently.  You also need to factor in that it's a duplex, and according to Zillow's Consumer Housing Report, only about 8% of renters prefer a duplex, so it is even more important to make sure it's priced correctly. Another thing to consider is the property condition as is relates to comparable properties.

Post: Beginner real estate investor

Chris RichPosted
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  • Orlando, FL
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Quote from @Antoine Gagne:

I am interested in becoming a real estate investor I want to learn as much as I can before I dive into the world of real estate I have read many bigger pocket books and love listening to the podcast on the way home from work.

I have a few questions if anybody would like to reach out and help it would be greatly appreciated hopefully I can bring value to you as well.

Congrats on starting your journey and making the correct first step by educating yourself and learning first.  I work for The Realty Medics, a property management company here in Orlando.  If you go the long-term rental route, and ever have questions or want to chat, feel free to reach out!

Post: The AirBnB 'Bust' will soon be a Boom.

Chris RichPosted
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Quote from @John Underwood:

The problem with areas of heavy saturation is that it's too late and these areas are depressed pricewise due to the competition. 

Until many of these areas convert to a LTR, get foreclosed on etc it will be like this for a good while.

There is also the uninformed that will still buy in one of these areas and wonder why they aren't making money.


Exactly what I am seeing. I work for a LTR PM company and have been getting about a call a day since November of STR owners wanting to go LTR, but many of the homes are too big for LTR or they don't want to get rid of the furniture. It's going to be a rough few years for a lot of those owners.

Quote from @Maxwell Banton:
Quote from @Chris Rich:

Hey Maxwell, just FYI, the link wouldn't work for me.

As for what to do... have you discussed any of this with a real estate experienced CPA? I can tell you I've had quite a few owners calling me in the last few months looking to transition their STR into LTR for the same reason, and like you, many are stuck. There are a ton of houses for sale in the Disney area and based off competition I think a lot of people are going to sell at a loss just to get out from under the house.

I don't think any of the options are good, but have you thought about what the plan is for 3 to 5 years from now? And is the house currently themed?  I think you either sell or go one of two routes.

1) Plan to hold for at least 5 years.  Turn into a LTR and then Cost Seg the house so you can get some funds as reserves.  Then hope the rental losses help with it comes time for tax season.

2) Double down on the STR and theme the house (if it isn't already). There is so much competition in the area and the well-done themed houses generally command a higher ADR. This is an example of what I am talking about - https://www.homethemeorlando.com/ .  It's not cheap to do ($10-15K per room), but Marc Younger (owner of Home Theme) has quite a few themed STRs in the Disney area and makes a killing. 

 Hope this helps.  Good luck! 

@Chris Rich Thank you for the advice! Here is a link to my property https://www.airbnb.com.sg/rooms/792049658049677604?guests=1&... as for theming I attempted to do some inexpensive theming but it could be a lot better for sure.

That is a nice property, unfortunately I think you are just falling victim to a saturated STR market that saw a decline in people using STRs after a couple years of inflated numbers of people coming here during / post Covid.

Nathan brings up a good point about throwing more money at it.  I would agree with him about the home values decreasing solely based off the number of for sale properties in the area currently, as well as the ones who could come on the market as owners who those STRs that are underperforming try and sell as well. 

Hey Maxwell, just FYI, the link wouldn't work for me.

As for what to do... have you discussed any of this with a real estate experienced CPA? I can tell you I've had quite a few owners calling me in the last few months looking to transition their STR into LTR for the same reason, and like you, many are stuck. There are a ton of houses for sale in the Disney area and based off competition I think a lot of people are going to sell at a loss just to get out from under the house.

I don't think any of the options are good, but have you thought about what the plan is for 3 to 5 years from now? And is the house currently themed?  I think you either sell or go one of two routes.

1) Plan to hold for at least 5 years.  Turn into a LTR and then Cost Seg the house so you can get some funds as reserves.  Then hope the rental losses help with it comes time for tax season.

2) Double down on the STR and theme the house (if it isn't already). There is so much competition in the area and the well-done themed houses generally command a higher ADR. This is an example of what I am talking about - https://www.homethemeorlando.com/ .  It's not cheap to do ($10-15K per room), but Marc Younger (owner of Home Theme) has quite a few themed STRs in the Disney area and makes a killing. 

Hope this helps.  Good luck! 

Post: Divorce - refi primary options

Chris RichPosted
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  • Orlando, FL
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I think it's tough to answer that for you.  What is the difference in monthly payment on keeping the 24 years compared to resetting to 30 years? Also depends on your school of thought.  I personally like the lower monthly payment because you can always make an extra principal payment a year and knock down the life of the loan anyway, but you're not obligated to the higher payment. 

Post: Looking for a property manager

Chris RichPosted
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  • Orlando, FL
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Quote from @Brandon Cochran:

I'm closing on a property that I'm going to refinance into a buy and hold after some repairs in the Melbourne/Palm Bay area. Not too far from Orlando. 

I'm looking for any recommendations for a property manager who serves that area. 

Thank you in advance!

Hi Brandon, I do sales for The Realty Medics.  We do long-term property management and service Palm Bay as well.  I will send you a DM.

Post: Questions for those buying Single Family homes as rentals...

Chris RichPosted
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  • Orlando, FL
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Quote from @Zach Matson:

I'm a builder and investor in Boise, ID. I'm currently designing my next builds, and want to make sure they are the most appealing and can make financial sense to investors. So, I have a few questions for those of you still buying single family homes as rentals. 

1. How are you analyzing your deal and what is your goal when you are buying a SF home? Is it cashflow still(and how much?), or more for long term benefits and try to break even? 
2. What is your strategy for renting... is it LT, MT, ST, rent by the room, or something else? 

3.  How do you value new construction as opposed to an older home that may look nice, but still older? Do you take into account that you shouldn't have any mainenance for at least 10 years or not really? 

4. Is there anything that you have really wished you could find in homes that you don't see often that would increase your return or lower your expenses? 

5. When you see a listing, does it help when the remarks are tailored toward investors? Such as ease of maintenance, durability, return on investment, etc?

6. Is there any other suggestions you have for me to adapt to the current market? 

Any feedback is greatly appreciated!

A few of my ideas so far, that I'm starting to implement...

1. On houses that have small yards I have done artificial(but real looking, they've come a long way) grass. People have mixed feelings but it seems that investors love it at least. 

2. My most recent floorplan has private bathrooms attached to each bedroom. This only increases my cost by maybe 5k(added a bathroom), but seems like it will be much more marketable as a rental. But, this did eliminate a family room upstairs, so the only living space is on the main floor. 

3. HUGE primary en-suite with walk in showers and soaker tubs. 

4. Model my homes and design after $1M+ dollar homes, but they are in more up-and-coming neighborhoods. 
            - So basically they are the nicest homes in the neighborhood, but the neighborhoods are very much improving around them. 

5. I use upper mid-level finishes. Better than builder grade but not top of the line like on the high end custom homes. The result is a very upscale feel compared to other comparable price points typically. I.E. Good quality LVP flooring, Upper mid level appliances, energy efficient furnaces and tankless water heaters, semi-custom and now custom cabinets, quartz counters, and each home is professionally designed. 


 Hi Zach! 

1) I think that depends on the market and the property. In my market (Orlando), it is tough to find high cash flowing properties to purchase without using BRRRR, unless you've already been living in them for a few years. But a lot of investors we work with are buying new builds because of the appreciation, despite the low cash flow. I won't sell my rental (former primary) for a very long time because it does cash flow, but since 2017 appreciated from $245,000- $~420,000 and cash flows $1,000 over the mortgage.

2) I personally like LTR, but the by room (Padsplit) has been really profitiable for a couple flippers I know who pivoted, started rehabbing their flips with Padsplit in mind, and it so far has been kind of a "best of both worlds" when it comes to consistent cash flow to cover the mortgages, but also generating higher cashflow with the by room model.

3) Generally, the new build approach can be great because of what you said-- minimal maintenance for at least the first 5-7 years. With that said, a rehabbed property could accomplish the same goal of being "Like new," which about 45% of renters who desire a SFR look for new or rehabbed properties.

4) Based off what I've seen with clients properties, I would say avoid carpet for rentals and don't buy the lowest quality products when renovating.  Spending a little more money to get more durable materials will save you money in the long run. If you are looking for rental properties, trying to find ones with new / relatively new ACs and Roofs will help because those are the two big maintenance items.  Not having to replace them for 7-10 years down the road gives you the ability to gain equity through appreciation, and then leverage the property to cover those repair costs.

5) I read listing comments with a giant grain of salt LOL.  

6) One investor I know works with a builder and has his own custom floor plans (3 or 4 beds, 1500-2000 sq ft).  He owns quite a few in-lay lots and his build costs in Palm Bay, FL are about $230,000, but the appraised value is around $310,000-$330,000.  Once he places a tenant, he does a cash out REFI, does a cost seg study, and repeats.  Since you are a builder, I wonder if you could do something similar in your area? 

If you are building your own houses, don't forget to factor in renter preferences, and build your houses around the biggest percentage of the rentat pool.  Here's the link to Zillow's Consumer Housing report, which has some great renter data. (https://www.zillow.com/research/renters-consumer-housing-tre...

Good luck!

Post: Property Manager in Orlando

Chris RichPosted
  • Property Manager
  • Orlando, FL
  • Posts 103
  • Votes 64
Quote from @Dave Kay:

Hi All, 
I'm looking for Property Managers in Orlando. This is primarily in relation to Davenport FL - near champions gate. I looked at prior postings and did not see a lot, so I wanted to ask on the forum again here in 2024. I would love to get into long-term rentals but mostly seem to get short-term management (mid-term would be awesome too), and I've used a few but am still looking for ones with lots of interaction and involvement, communication with me, and are good fits for investors who want to optimize, etc. 
Please feel free to let me know if you have any recommendations. Thanks! 


Hi Dave!  I work for The Realty Medics, a long-term property management company here in Orlando.  I'd love to connect and see what you are looking for in a manager, to see if we are a good fit.  I'll send you a DM.

Quote from @Christopher Eduardo:

To answer questions and to give more info:

We built a custom home here in the Lake Nona/St. Cloud area in Orlando. Very desirable area and really one of the top growing areas in Florida and maybe even the nation. We have a 5bd/5bath and an office 2 story house that's fully upgraded. 2 car attached garage and a 3 car detached garage. Osceola county and No HOA. As far as I know, we should be able to do STR if decided to. Market value around 1.3-1.5m. We are about 900k into the build.


My main goal for the build was to live in it until it's time to resell. Just trying to take advantage of the favorable market when its good time. We have been doing this since our very first home back in 2008. This is our third home. 

There's no urgency or rush currently on the home but at the same time, I don't want to exhaust all our reserves and financial risk as we have most of our funds tied up to this home. If it weren't for the capital gains taxes, I would be listing it already. I just recently became a real estate agent as well, mainly because it can help with costs of selling and buying homes as well as the benefits of having the license when investing in real estate.


So, I'm just trying to brainstorm and get ideas on what are some good options for this property. If we could keep it and build another one, we would but we are not in a position to do that just yet. The ultimate goal is to keep the investing and growth going. I'm open to any of your ideas and appreciate it.

I know cashing out is what we initially wanted to do and 1 year was planned to do that but after calculating the costs to sell now, we are trying our best to hold off until the end of next year. It will be financially tight though so I'm trying to plan and prepare now.

Hope that helps and thanks for your guys inputs.

Happy New Year! Here's to an even better year =)


Given the area, I would hold for as long as you can-- That area is booming with growth. My only concern would be with the numbers working for a long-term rental.  Depending on where exactly you are in the Lake Nona / St Cloud area, your LTR rental rates could be anywhere from $3000-$4,500.  The downside with that high of a monthly rate is it is only about 20% of the renter population makes enough to afford that costly of a rental. But I think the appreciation in the area is going to be good both short and long term. 

I am going to DM you.