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All Forum Posts by: Chris Koch

Chris Koch has started 0 posts and replied 23 times.

@Matt Mainini… last couple years have been good for the trades in SA. So, yes… they may be eating too well to want to explain to you how they plan to do their job. That said, I will also say that Texans (in general) have had to deal with loads of folks from Cali over the past several years… and well…maybe some have been left with a bad impression. Not an indictment on you, but you might get lumped in with others and their bad attitude/behavior, just due to the fact you live in Cali.

I would just move and keep looking for a good fit. I also find trades/contractors are much easier to do business with in person. Over the phone is much less effective imho

@Jason Weng… I have several properties in SA and have an awesome PM. Send me a DM if you want his name and contact info.

@Tyler D.... I have half a dozen properties in SA area. My advice, focus on areas where you know there is going to be strong rental demand year after year -- not always the shiny new developments. I have most of my properties close to the Medical Center in SA and have had tremendous success with quality renters (doctors, nurses, folks within medical industry) over the years. I have seen some solid appreciation on my properties, but better than that... almost no vacancies and very, very little wear and tear on my properties. Just my $.02

@Josh E. -- there are always states like Texas that are very pro-business and landlord friendly. Even though I don't live there... all of my investment properties are in Texas... mainly due to the regulatory/business climate. I struggle to understand that rationale of providing strong dis-incentive for investment... economic theory holds that those dis-incentives will eventually materialize and have strong negative effects on the local economies.

@Thomas Clinch... I am a current (buy and hold) investor in San Antonio and am looking at starting some BRRRR (never know how many R's to use) investing. My personal POV, outside the larger cities (Dallas, Houston, Austin) is where you are going to find the best BRRRRR deals

@Sean Rooks… congrats and appreciate the sharing

Originally posted by @Matt OConnor:

@Account Closed

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2193136-universal-income-study-finds-money-for-nothing-wont-make-us-work-less/

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/611418/basic-income-could-work-if-you-do-it-canada-style/


"“All of the evidence from the project demonstrated the pilot was helping people get back into the workforce, eat healthier and participate in community activities,” Tom Cooper, director of the Hamilton Roundtable for Poverty Reduction, which helped enroll citizens in the UBI plan, told Motherboard"

I think you cherry picked sources that tried to put a positive spin on the Finland experiment. There are several sources out there that view the results as not material when it comes to providing incentives for work (https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/02/the-results-finlands-universal-basic-income-experiment-are-in-is-it-working/). This is from a Finnish source that states it is disappointed in the results (https://www.helsinki.fi/en/news/nordic-welfare-news/heikki-hiilamo-disappointing-results-from-the-finnish-basic-income-experiment).

I personally think UBI is interesting if (and only if) it replaces almost all other social programs (that is inline with what Yang proposes). Even then, I think there are major issues to be hammered through... not least of which is how is something like this implemented in a fashion that keep it from becoming bureaucratic mess that gets increased every time there is an approaching election and some team wants to buy votes

Originally posted by @Matt OConnor:

The variety and enthusiasm of responses on this thread is quite telling of the country's modern political disposition - you have some younger, more open-minded investors who see the writing on the wall that UBI is necessary but wonder about how it will be implemented, all the way to the "American patriots" who take UBI as an affront to the principles of this country.

To both extremes, and everyone in between, I ask does pure socialism work? If we define socialism as a system creating equal outcomes, then it is quite clear both in theory and from history that it does not work. When people with skill sets and abilities are crammed into roles and positions not fit for them, they are equal on the surface, but their true outcomes are very different - different levels of happiness, fulfillment, stress, etc. The car enthusiast stuck as a computer developer will be no happier than the computer geek stuck as an auto mechanic. Yet because there is a complete lack of competition, no one can naturally settle into what gives them the most fulfillment, and at best everyone is equal is being miserable. Historically, very few purely socialist entities have succeeded. Scandinavia and even modern China are great examples of countries which have elements of socialism but incorporate varying degrees of competition and capitalism - in fact one could argue modern China is more capitalistic than modern America is (at the very least in a dystopian sense).

Then we must ask, does pure capitalism work? If we define capitalism as equal access to opportunity, meaning the ability to compete for outcomes, then no it does not. In pure capitalism, it is inevitable that randomly, one competitor in an industry eventually gets so big such that they can acquire, squash, and price out any future would be competition. Ironically, while competition allowed this monopoly entity to build itself, now the presence of the monopoly prevents any future competition. And without any future competition, we do not have equal access to opportunity. Only external regulation and prevention of monopolies can reignite competition.

In other words, each system must paradoxically contain a piece of its opposite in order to succeed. Socialism must contain an element of competition to ensure equal outcomes (beyond equal starvation), and capitalism must contain an element of socialism to ensure continued competition (and therefore equal opportunity).

This is the lens I view UBI through. Implemented correctly, UBI is not a threat to capitalism, it is a massive boost to capitalism.

Imagine a more intelligent, more entrepreneurial populace who are now able to take more risks, start more companies, and work on more passion projects because they don't have to devote 100% of their psychological and physiological energy to ensuring their family does not starve to death.

https://www.businessinsider.com/poverty-effect-on-intelligence-2013-8

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2193136-universal-income-study-finds-money-for-nothing-wont-make-us-work-less/

Like it or not, some form of UBI is the future. UBI can be called 'socialist' but at it's most extreme its what I call "competitive socialism." UBI is more capitalistic than many aspects of modern America with oligopolies choking all competition from entire industries.

Needless to say UBI, rent controls, affordable housing zoning, etc are all factors us real estate investors need to be thinking about as they will impact not only our immediate returns, but the societies in which we live and invest.

As an investor my take is to limit exposure to more "progressive" cities as they experiment with different approaches and without question make a few missteps along the way, implementing regulations which entirely backfire and eschew the economic balance. Such is the nature of regulation, it is inherently reactive not proactive, and will always be an incredibly flawed tool - but one which used responsibly is absolutely vital to both socialism and capitalism.

All that said, in the long run real estate investing will become more and more competitive, not just due to limited returns, but also presence of competition (more and more interested capital), changes to technology (iBuyers etc), and the pervasiveness of data (less relationship based, everyone can find deals). This trend is nothing new, and has already played out in other industries which traditionally were incredibly non-accessible and relationship based (such as the financial markets).

The days of a handful of people capturing 99% of the returns the real estate industry has to offer are over - and that's a good thing. UBI is just one small part of these overall socioeconomic trends.

 Two points of rebuttal...

1) You state that "pure capitalism" doesn't work. I would argue that we have never seen an instance where we have let pure capitalism go long enough for us to validate that statement. We have always seen markets where there have been external forces applied that have impacted the landscape enough that we only know what the outcomes are with the external forces. We have never seen unencumbered pure capitalism. That said, you might be right. The end result might be a massive single company that becomes a monopoly and thus must be broken up for anti-competitive reasons/rationale. My argument... we just don't know. Of course, we absolutely do know that socialism/communism/stateism/etc do not work and result in millions starving and dying. So... we know that side sucks!

2) You seem to want to make moral equivalence between the two... saying neither work in their purest forms... so let's blend them together. Seeing as we KNOW that socialism/communism/etc starves and kills millions... and pure capitalism MIGHT only result in a massive monopoly that makes loads of people super wealthy due to its dominance (thinking examples like MSFT, Goog, AMZN, etc). My suggestion would be, let's go ahead and err on the side of capitalism and maybe have a ratio of like 99:1 with the 99 being capitalism and 1 (at most) being some goofy socialism/communism/etc component.

@Krishnan T. -- I don't think you fully understand what either democracy and/or free markets actually mean. The US is NOT and never has been a true democracy. We are a democratic republic which is a form of government operating on principles adopted from a republic and a democracy. Rather than being a cross between two entirely separate systems, democratic republics may function on principles shared by both republics and democracies (thank you Wikipedia). In addition, the electoral college is designed to avoid mob rule or better known as "tyranny of the majority/'. It is in place to ensure that minority (not in a modern day definition of minority) voices are represented and that the majority cannot steamroll over the "little guy". As for free markets, if company A has the best product and owns the majority of the market... as long as they are not anti-competitive and/or violate anti-trust laws... they are allowed to enjoy a dominant market share. Sounds to me like you want more equality of outcome vs equality of opportunity... which is opposite of free markets. I would suggest you reread your post... as you keep trashing free market capitalism... yet using crappy examples to try and make your point.