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All Forum Posts by: Chris Baber

Chris Baber has started 6 posts and replied 52 times.

Post: Seeking Recommendation for Survey COmpany

Chris BaberPosted
  • Asheville, NC
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 35
I'm not sure if you'll find anyone willing and able to move "immediately" on anything construction related in Asheville right now.  I had to wait almost 2 months to get someone for the same thing, a VERY simple lot split.  however, once they started, Jason moved quite quickly and was super responsive.  Perhaps they can help.  Good luck!

Glaspy Land Surveying
Jason Moore
O (828) 974-1811
C (828) 674-4088

Hopefully you don't need Environmental Health to get you a septic permit, I had to wait about 4 months for mine :(

Post: Asheville Area Meetup

Chris BaberPosted
  • Asheville, NC
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 35

Looking forward to seeing live people again

Post: Beech Mountain short term rentals

Chris BaberPosted
  • Asheville, NC
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 35

Hi Terry, I'm curious who you went with to manage your new property.

I suggest you speak to a real estate attorney to get a clearer picture for your specific situation.  I am NOT an attorney!

With that said, I think creating an LLC to actually own the house is a great idea.  It should protect you personally from liability from having strangers use the property, and maybe falling off your deck, or other issues.  I believe the correct structure you will want will be for your LLC to own the property, then lease it to a separate management company (probably a corporation), which you could also own, then that management company will rent part of the house on Airbnb, VRBO, etc, and also rent the other part of the house to you, personally, on a long-term lease.

This type of structure will allow you to transfer income as necessary to take advantage of tax laws, and also protect you personally from potential liability.

search for "Clint Coons vacation rental" and follow the rabbit hole on liability protection.  Search "toby mathis vacation rental" for information on tax strategies.

Get professional help with setting this all up; from someone who actually invests in real estate.

Good luck with the new business.

Thanks for posting your feedback.  They sound similar to Turnkey VR who also were frustratingly difficult to deal with.  I remain on the lookout for a quality company that doesn't take all the profit from the property.

Post: Advice on AirBnB self-management

Chris BaberPosted
  • Asheville, NC
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 35

@Amanda Williams  Congratulations on your pending purchase.

I started running my STR last March, but here's my experience, in case it helps.

I started by listing on Airbnb only, for a few reasons.  They are the most 'known' platform for Short Term Rental. I wanted to aggregate all my reviews in one place, to get Superhost as quickly as possible.  I didn't want to try to learn and manage multiple sites while learning what I was doing simultaneously.

I did eventually add HomeAway (sister/same company now as VRBO).  They were a bit of a nightmare, and I pulled my home from their site after they effectively stole money from me (long story).

I tried, and ended up using and paying for beyondpricing.com to manage my pricing.  They have full time staff evaluating the competition, vacancies in hotels, events, etc.  For the minimal amount I paid them, I felt they returned much more to me in higher rates than I would have charged, and especially for the time it saved me from dealing with pricing.  They will manage Airbnb and HomeAway/VRBO directly, and keep your bookings synchronized between those 2 sites automatically.

My research showed that HA/VRBO is generally the preferred platform for full home rental, families, long stays.  Airbnb is considered better for short stays, singles, getaway travelers.

My home was definitely in the VRBO camp based on the above, but I did great with Airbnb, so I don't think those 'rules' are set in stone.  I mostly had families, and usually 3-7 day stays.

I agree with others that you don't really need other software for your first one, and doing it yourself lets you fully appreciate all that needs to happen to give guests a great experience.  I'm very happy I did it myself and learned what i did.  

Eventually, I tried a property manager, and it was a terrible experience.  I fired them after they showed their incompetence and never earned a booking for me.

I think much of the difficulty was that I had high expectations from my experience running it.  If I had never done it myself, I might not have been so unhappy with them.

Eventually, I got tired of cleaning the place myself, and values in the area (very rural Weaverville) have gotten so high, so I listed it for much more than I thought I could just 6 months earlier, and sold it quickly.

I'm using that money to finish the rehab of another property now, and am seriously considering hiring a different property manager to start the listing and do it all from the beginning, to avoid the 'take over the listing' issues I had last time.

If I can help with anything, or answer any questions, please let me know.

Good luck with your new asset!

@Mike Hartzog Thanks for the feedback.  I missed most of his presentation at Paper Source this year, but many raved about him.


@Bruce Lynn I went to Note School earlier this month. Eddie is definitely an expert, but I was disappointed in the amount of useful information I got out of a 3 day investment. I actually think I got more actionable information from Joe Varnadore when he spoke at my REI prior to (and where I bought) Note School. If you want to hear about Eddies life and how experienced he is, with lots of long, usually funny stories, Note School may be for you.

@Jay Greener Good Deal Jay.  Let's meet while there and see how we can help each other.

I do not, but I am registered for his upcoming live course...

How To Get Rich With Notes: A Complete Guide to Seller Financing

A Two Day No Nonsense Workshop Taught by Tom Henderson in Conjunction with Paper Source

When: June 21st and June 22nd           Where:San Antonio, Texas

I have high hopes.

Post: One LLC Per Rental Property

Chris BaberPosted
  • Asheville, NC
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 35

My opinion is to not have more equity in one LLC than you're willing to walk away from. More properties, more equity at risk and more properties to trigger the risk.

I have one LLC for each of my 2 properties, and plan one for each I acquire, as a rule of thumb.

Post: Owner Finance w payments

Chris BaberPosted
  • Asheville, NC
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 35

152,000 @ 7% for 120 months = 1764.85/month

1764.85/month @ 0% for 120 months = 211,782 loan amount, 264,727.50 sale price

better than 30 year, but not great either.

Best they understand how money works and interest is a part of life if you borrow money, and just deal with it.