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All Forum Posts by: Chris Feltus

Chris Feltus has started 12 posts and replied 205 times.

Post: Determining ARV: Am I doing it correctly? [Pictures and pdf Comps inside]

Chris FeltusPosted
  • Residential Real Estate Agent
  • Fort Worth , TX
  • Posts 211
  • Votes 152
Originally posted by Justin S.:
Criteria for pulling comps
1 mile radius
+/- 10% sq.ft.
Same # of stories
Same construction

When you pull by a radius, couldn't that potentially go across major interstate roads or pull from different subdivisions? Pulling from other subdivisions if they are close by from what I have read seems to be acceptable, assuming the subdivisions overall are similar.

Also, if the post is too long there is a PDF linked in the original post that you can quickly take a look through instead of my wall of text.

Post: Determining ARV: Am I doing it correctly? [Pictures and pdf Comps inside]

Chris FeltusPosted
  • Residential Real Estate Agent
  • Fort Worth , TX
  • Posts 211
  • Votes 152
Originally posted by Andy Chu:
Comping is always subjective, but overall it doesn't look too bad. My only question is that you have 93,000 arv here but under the dropbox you have arv of 110,000.

What would you suggest to improve? I am looking to do an excellent job determining a conservative ARV estimate, not just "not too bad".

Anyways the $93,000 ARV is completely independent of this hypothetical analysis. It was just some random numbers I threw out to show you how I arrived at the $110,000 ARV of the subject property in this example.

Originally posted by Andy Chu:
Are you tryi g to give the impression it can be sold above market with 20k in repairs? Also, as a wholesaler, you may need to estimate work needed inside a property.

Yes, of course if this was an actual property I was thinking about putting under contract I would definitly take a look inside. How else would you determine ERC? But as I said, this subject property is just practice in pulling comps for ARV, the ERC was something I made up off the top of my head. Its irrelevant in this case since I am focusing on making sure I picked a conservative ARV, thats all im concerned about in this exercise.

EDIT:

Originally posted by J Scott:
I just posted this thread that might be worthwhile to you:

http://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/311/topics/73160-primer---estimating-arv

Thanks!

Post: Determining ARV: Am I doing it correctly? [Pictures and pdf Comps inside]

Chris FeltusPosted
  • Residential Real Estate Agent
  • Fort Worth , TX
  • Posts 211
  • Votes 152

I am new to wholesaling, and would like to take this one step at a time educating myself and taking my time long before trying to put my first property under contract. First is making sure I have a solid understanding of determining ARV. To practice I am looking at HUDs at HUD home store, and pulling comps on them just to practice finding ARV. Let me make it clear, these are NOT properties I have under contract and I have not actually physically looked at the property, the estimated repair number is just a number off the top of my head. This is again just a practice in determining ARV.

ARV and Estimating repairs are where many wholesalers, making overly aggressive comp pulls for ARV or underestimating repair costs and assigning a huge wholesalers fee. Thus making dud deals with not enough spread in them. The point of this post is to take it one key component at a time and focus on it, in this case ARV.

Criteria for pulling comps
- within +/- 20% sq ft of subject property
- within +/- 10 years for year built
- same or similar number of bed/bath/garage
-Attempt to get comps with same exterior and construction as subject property
-For an actual wholesale deal subject property needs to be $0.70 cents on the dollar minus repairs, or there is not enough spread for the end investor. Thats with an accurate estimate of bot ARV and repairs.

That being said, my hypothetical subject property here is Lotus. First I will show the full list of solds from the study area and show you which ones I selected. Also please view the property overview PDF I put together for this it contains an actual report as I would send to investors. Here is a link to the PDF:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/59442741/property_overview_lotus.pdf

The above is the Full list of sold comps within subject property study area. From this list I filtered out "as is" or "HUD/REO" sales. In addition, I further filtered by subdivision, keeping comps in the same subdivision as subject property. Since there were enough comps I was able to get all comps from the same subdivision as subject property.

Once I have the sold comps I do a CMA that gives me the median $ / sq ft. I take this value and multiply it by the sq ft of the subject property. For instance if the median $ / sq ft for the sold comps is $62.20 and my subject property is 1,500 sq ft.

$62.20 x 1,500 sq ft = ARV of $93,000

Sorry for a somewhat longwinded post. Thank you for taking the time to view and or reply to my message, I truly appreciate it.

Post: Property Overview Forms Example

Chris FeltusPosted
  • Residential Real Estate Agent
  • Fort Worth , TX
  • Posts 211
  • Votes 152
Originally posted by Michael X:
Is this a website that you are setting up? Looks like it covers just about everything that I would be looking for and more to get an idea as to whether I should investigate the property further. I wouldn't mind "borrowing" this template ;)

It would be for both for the website, and anyone on the distribution list. My goal is to have forms that give a clear and concise description of the property. In other words, the numbers should speak for themselves that's all that matters at the end of the day. The youtube video walkthrough will hopefully help confirm that the ERC is correct.

I don't want to waste peoples time or inbox space.

For page 2 and the all cash offer, thats more fore a retail flip. I could add a section to there for rental numbers as well for the subject property. Estimating cash flow etc.

Feel free to borrow some ideas if you would like. Thanks for your valued feedback!

Post: Property Overview Forms Example

Chris FeltusPosted
  • Residential Real Estate Agent
  • Fort Worth , TX
  • Posts 211
  • Votes 152

I am new and still in the process of educating myself, and have yet to place a property under contract. With that being said I am coming up with templates to present a property once its under contract, and I would appreciate feedback from the community to make sure I am heading in the right direction from experienced investors.

I am attempting to create a format that is conservative, assuming ERC and ARV estimates are correct. Too many times I see properties presented without factoring basic costs such as holding or property taxes.

This is a hypothetical property and I just came up with some numbers off the top of my head. The following is a property overview packet for that hypothetical property.

Page 1: Property Overview: Average DOM is something I should add here as well

Page 2: Basic Cost Estimate

Page 3: Tax roles

Page 4+: Sold comps and lease comps

I will then combine the PDF forms into a single document.

Thanks in advance for your feedback, I appreciate it.