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All Forum Posts by: Cheryl S.

Cheryl S. has started 6 posts and replied 35 times.

Post: REI Newbie and (desperately) need some help with my OOS LTR

Cheryl S.
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  • Accountant
  • New Hanover, NJ
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 11
Quote from @Nathan Gesner:
Quote from @Cheryl S.:

Your manager is not good.

1. The tenant did not establish their own utility account. The PM should not turn over keys until they've verified the Tenant has established utilities, paid all moneys necessary, signed the lease, etc. 

2. Tenants owed a few months rent. Eviction should start the first month they fail to pay and I believe evictions can take place within 30 days of serving the 3-day Notice, so your Tenant should have been out within 60 days.

3. PM marketed the property at too high of a price. They should know the market is slowing in September and price it accordingly.

4. PM suggested lowering the price after two weeks, but failed to do so for six weeks.

I could go on, but it's pretty clear this PM is lazy or incompetent or something. She certainly isn't working hard to protect your interests.

You can sometimes get better results listing it as a month-to-month rental. Get someone in there for a few months and get through the winter season, then put it back on the market in the spring and look for a one-year lease. In the meantime, I would start looking for another PM.

Remember: cheaper doesn't mean you'll make more money.

Start by going to www.narpm.org to search their directory of managers. These are professionals with additional training and a stricter code of ethics. It's no guarantee but it's a good place to start. You can also search Google and read reviews. Regardless of how you find them, try to interview at least three managers.

1. Ask how many units they manage and how much experience they have. If it's a larger organization, feel free to inquire about their staff qualifications.

2. Review their management agreement. Make sure it explicitly explains the process for termination if you are unhappy with their services, but especially if they violate the terms of your agreement.

3. Understand the fees involved and calculate the total cost for an entire year of management so you can compare the different managers. It may sound nice to pay a 6% management fee but the extra fees can add up to be more than the other company that charges 10% with no additional fees. Fees should be clearly stated in writing, easy to understand, and justifiable. Common fees will include a set-up fee, leasing fee for each turnover or a lease renewal fee, marking up maintenance, retaining late fees, and more. If you ask the manager to justify a fee and he starts hemming and hawing, move on or require them to remove the fee. Don't be afraid to negotiate, particularly if you have a lot of rentals.

4. Review their lease agreement and addenda. Think of all the things that could go wrong and see if the lease addresses them: unauthorized pets or tenants, early termination, security deposit, lease violations, late rent, eviction, lawn maintenance, parking, etc.

5. Don't just read the lease! Ask the manager to explain their process for dealing with maintenance, late rent, evictions, turnover, etc. If they are professional, they can explain this quickly and easily. If they are VERY professional, they will have their processes in writing as verification that policies are enforced equally and fairly by their entire staff.

6. Ask to speak with some of their current owners and current/former tenants. You can also check their reviews online at Google, Facebook, or Yelp. Just remember: most negative reviews are written by problematic tenants. The fact that a tenant is complaining online might be an indication the property manager dealt with them properly so be sure to ask the manager for their side of the story.

7. Look at their marketing strategy. Are they doing everything they can to expose properties to the widest possible market? Are their listings detailed with good quality photos? Can they prove how long it takes to rent a vacant property?

This isn't inclusive but should give you a good start. If you have specific questions about property management, I'll be happy to help!

Thank you Nathan. Lesson learned hard way. Your insights are super helpful. Appreciate them. I will reach out via DM if any further questions around PM come up. Thanks Again 

Post: REI Newbie and (desperately) need some help with my OOS LTR

Cheryl S.
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  • Accountant
  • New Hanover, NJ
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 11
Quote from @Chris Clothier:

In your shoes, I would absolutely looking for another property management company to interview at a minimum.  You may not hire a new one, but you need to get multiple opinions about the house and the plan going forward.  Lastly, you want to confirm the condition of the property and that you had a tenant originally.  Nothing you are describing is a turnkey in my opinion.  You want the company you purchase from to be responsible for the management.  That way there is no finger pointing.  They are responsible for everything happening with the property.


Thanks! I purchased mine through Rent to Retirement. I did send an email to David and Zach Lemaster an email earlier this year, but seems like once the property is out of their hand they don't care much anymore. Too bad, just my bad choice of working with them and the Company. 

Post: Marketing My Rental, Need Some Advice

Cheryl S.
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  • Accountant
  • New Hanover, NJ
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 11
Quote from @Nate Sanow:
Quote from @Cheryl S.:
Quote from @Nate Sanow:

This time of year just  sucks for placing a tenant. Sometimes you have to discount it a lot to be break even. You can do a 6 or 9 month lease to then raise rents when demand is back up. 


 @Nate Sanow - I am in a similar situation now. If I do 6 or 9 month lease, where best should I market my property? Thanks! 

Thank you @Nate Sanow

@Cheryl S. i like to use facebook marketplace strictly for advertising, and direct everyone to Zillow.  Zillow is usually sufficient but I like having a few options. FB marketplace gets spammy so I don’t show anyone the property if all they did was use it…if they use Zillow they can actually apply there and then I am more willing to show.

Post: Marketing My Rental, Need Some Advice

Cheryl S.
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  • Accountant
  • New Hanover, NJ
  • Posts 35
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Quote from @Nate Sanow:

This time of year just  sucks for placing a tenant. Sometimes you have to discount it a lot to be break even. You can do a 6 or 9 month lease to then raise rents when demand is back up. 


 @Nate Sanow - I am in a similar situation now. If I do 6 or 9 month lease, where best should I market my property? Thanks! 

Post: REI Newbie and (desperately) need some help with my OOS LTR

Cheryl S.
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  • Accountant
  • New Hanover, NJ
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 11

Hi everyone, 


RE Investing Rookie here, and I have been in a very tough situation lately that I really need some advices. I purchased my first OOS and Turnkey investment in South Euclid, OH last year and things have never been easy with this investment. Tenants have been late in rent every month and owed a few months' rents plus (a huge) utilities bills (my PM discovered this later in the year) during their stay. Their lease was up in July this year but refused to move out and we had to file an eviction so that we can collect the missing rent payments and the past due utility bills. Then in late Aug, my PM found a note stick to the door only to find out the tenants moved out already without any notices, and my PM suggested me to file a claim in Court in order to collect all the money that the tenants owed. Long story short, my PM cleaned and had the unit ready for marketing around mid-Sept but until today the unit is still vacant. When we discussed the rent in Sept my PM suggested that we would go higher with the rental amount at the beginning and we can adjust down the price in 2 weeks if traffic /inquires are low. I trusted their expertise and agreed with the process. I was then on an out-of-country trip for a month and half, and when we came back home at the end of Oct,  I learned that my unit was still on the market with the high rent amount from the initial listing. Apparently my PM never adj. the rent amount after 2 weeks and just let my property sitting on the market without doing anything to try to promote the rent. Ever since I am back home, I have tried to work with my PM actively  to lower the rent, and promote the listing, however, we had no luck to find a potential candidate due to the snow falls in the area and holidays.  I had to lower the rent amount (even lower than the previous rental from the turnkey provider) to attract more tenants. But the property has been on the market for more than 2 months, and I feel I've already lost the best time to market the rent and will have to continue lowering the rent. I am really concerned at this time, and feel that my PM has dropped ball in marketing the property - 1) to initiate the rent too high in the beginning and 2) to not follow up, make adj. accordingly, and promote the rent timely when inquires were low in the first couple of week or marketing.  The other side of me, I blame on myself and think that I should've had been more active in managing my PM during my out of country trip. I have a questions or options and can experienced RE investors help me in this tough situation: 

Regardless the option below, I plan to travel to OH and check out the property in person before the first week of Dec. I know I don't want to rely on others (i.e. PM) heavily in managing the property going forward,  but I don't know what would be the best option in my current situation. 

1. Find a new PM in the market - I've tried to talk to a couple of PM in the area and will try to call a few more after Thanksgivings. My concern here is that the transition to a new PM won't be smooth due to the current pending/ongoing lawsuit. How to best handle the transition? Even with a new PM, given the upcoming holidays, I am afraid that we possibly won't find a tenants until after the holidays (in Jan), or I have to lower the rent more which I really don't want to.  What if the new PM fails to perform and manage the property again - so many bad stories about PM I heard online / or on this forum. 

2. Keep the current PM and give them another try. -- I somehow don't trust them anymore because the previous tenants they screened and found.  The tenants ended up not paying rent and owed a lot utility bills that I probably have to cover for them eventually. 

3. Take over the property and start to manage and screen the tenants myself. Is anyone familiar with the City of South Euclid regulations on rental property? I read through the city website, and seems like for an outside investor like myself, we need to designate an agent to assume and take on all the non-compliance responsibilities. In that case, should I work with a local realtor who can also help show the property to potential tenants and manage other small things around the property while I am away? I do plan to travel to the property twice a year if I self-manage. Any thoughts on this?

4. My PM mentioned that she would also list my rental on travel nurse site for unfurnished LTR but it would mean my tenants won't stay at the property for more than 18 months, which I really don't mind. However, I learned this week that she never posted it on the nurse site to promote the marketing. But this had me think that if it would be feasible to convert my rental to mid-term rental, and I can furnish my home and rent it out to travel nurses. But this could be a risky option as well because I would need some cash up front to furnish the house and the demand is uncertain as well. 

Thank you so much for your advice, and have a great Thanksgivings everyone! 

Cheryl 

Post: Accounting Software for Rental Investment

Cheryl S.
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  • Accountant
  • New Hanover, NJ
  • Posts 35
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I am currently using Excel to track all the ins and outs of my rental investments. As much as I love the flexibility offered by Excel I do want to look into a more efficient tool as I start to scale up my business.  Any accounting software would you all recommend to efficiently track rental income and expenses, and run P&L and BS reports? I heard good things about Quickbooks, but the drawback is that the software is not specifically designed for Real Estate Investment and we will have to set up each rental property as a customer in Quickbooks. Any thoughts on that?

Also, has anyone here tried Stessa? It sounds promising and it's free but I am a bit hesitate to link my external accounts to the site. 

Thanks all and Happy New Year! 

Post: What Is A Good Cash Flow Amount in Memphis, TN

Cheryl S.
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  • Accountant
  • New Hanover, NJ
  • Posts 35
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@Frankie Torres, regardless how your cash flow is calculated, $90/mon sounds really low to me. I think besides cash flow, you will also want to calculate the rent ratio and COC return. I usually calc. my COC return before depreciation /amortization and principal paydown. Hope that helps

Post: Single Family Home House-Hack Tax Issue

Cheryl S.
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  • Accountant
  • New Hanover, NJ
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 11

@Andrew Clark

Your accountant is NOT right. Since you are renting out a portion of your property (meaning you're turning a portion of our residential property to a rental / investment property), you will need to split all the expenses between rental/investment and personal use. There are different ways to split / divide the expenses. Talk to a real/more knowledgeable CPA for your situation.

You rental income would be considered as an investment income from passive activities and could be subject to NIIT (Net Investment Income Tax) - you will need to talk to a CPA on this. You can deduct the expenses related to the part of the property that used for rental, and use that to offset your rental income in arriving the net rental income. Rental expenses are including but not limited to mortgage interest, insurance, real estate taxes, depreciation, maintenance and repairs, etc., and are reported on schedule E of Form 1040.

It's really all about determining what expenses are qualified, and how you split them between rental and personal use. 

Hope that helps. 

Post: Which market(s) would you invest?

Cheryl S.
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  • New Hanover, NJ
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@Robert Shortsleeves Thanks for the information. Great to know about the Fayetteville. I think now it's just a matter of finding the right properties that cash flow. I feel it is not very easy given the current skyrocketing house price. 

Post: Rental Property Home Inspections

Cheryl S.
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  • Accountant
  • New Hanover, NJ
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 11

@Stone Sharp thanks! I added the sewer line inspection to the general one. Hopefully things come out good.