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All Forum Posts by: Vincent D.

Vincent D. has started 11 posts and replied 94 times.

Post: Cameron Dunlap??

Vincent D.Posted
  • SFR Investor
  • Indiana
  • Posts 137
  • Votes 24

Cam has been around for a while. More than anything else, his likely goal is to sell you on his reporting services. If you are learning wholesaling from him, you will be directed to his skip trace/yellow letter program, which invariably leads to his in-house research/reporting division, findtheseller.com.

I'm not sure what he charges for the program these days, but many times these gurus are selling you down the road to their next sale in a string of attractions. No single program seems complete without the next bundle of provisions, and such is the design.

If you can find a vacant house, have a skip trace performed, and write letters and cold call for owners, you'll have grasped the meat of Dunlaps wholesaling program. I suggest attempting this without breaking the bank on his full program. In any case, though, the skip trace program works well (or, at least, continues to work for me), and I use Cam's peeps to provide skip trace reports.

Post: Wholesaling When You Have Full Time Job: How do you Show Houses?

Vincent D.Posted
  • SFR Investor
  • Indiana
  • Posts 137
  • Votes 24

Samantha,

As you gain traction wholesaling, you will likely be provider for a pool of repeat buyers. As this paradigm develops for you, less will be demanded of you logistically b/c of the relationships (ex, no worries giving combo to repeat buyer). Pave that road and the rewards will come.

Originally posted by Steven Marks:
The safest thing here is to get your real estate broker's license, law degree and license, mortgage broker's license and top it all off with a liquor license to drown the pain!

lol, and not necessarily in that order ;)

Originally posted by Monica Breckenridge:
Vincent D. I don't understand how you are doing these transactions if the bank has you sign an arms length affidavit that states the seller shall not remain in the property and can't repurchase the property.

I have 3 different attorney's plus a file attorney that reviews all my files, and they ALL agree that doing these transactions even without having a bank arms length affidavit is crossing the line and not recommended. The thing they always tell us is the story of the CO investor that went to prison for doing these transactions. He was doing the same thing. He was getting down payments from the sellers and he was buying their house on a short sale or non short sale. He then lease optioned the home to the sellers knowing that they would most likely get behind again. In most cases the previous homeowner would get behind and then the lease was violated and he got them out of the house.

Well the homeowners complained about this to the attorney general or somebody, the case the homeowner made was this investor was trying to help us keep the house and we paid him tons of money and now he kicked us out of the house. Poor, poor us! Well of course, like always the investors were made to be the bad guy. This eventual went to court and he was charged with fraud somehow and is now in prison. I don't know what actually happened. The investor very well may have been a shark or he may have been a good guy stuck in a bad position thinking he was doing right. But whatever the case, I think it's too risky!

things have changed in real estate, certainly, in the past handful of years, esp with regulations and red tape. investors are inherently "bad", unfortunately, and hands are tied by continuous new suppressive legislation.

I haven't leased back to owner on a short sale purchase for at least five years, and i have no doubt there's more in the way now. in any case, it would be a measured risk with minimal chance of "discovery", if deception were one's MO.

I reiterate - its not good tactic to enter a deal with leaseback to defaulted owner as integral to the overall strategy. In any case, it's frustrating to trip over govt red tape at every turn, when the gov had such a heavy hand in underwriting bad mortgages leading up to the mortgage apocalypse. All are punished for the mistakes of few, and we're forced by the amorphous mastermind to toe the pedantic lines like brainless lemmings. In an overregulated environment where we're not technically allowed to chew gum and walk at the same time, I don't mind taking a little liberty in the way of common sense, in the face of overreaching, onerous litigation.

Am I the only one feeling the walls closing in?

Originally posted by Michael Quarles:
Vincent D.

Most Lender Arms Length Affidavits actually state you can’t do what you’re describing above.. And if you do then you’re committing a form of fraud..

Here is my Short Package if you care to read an Affidavit

http://www.yellowlettermail.com/Documents_Needed.pdf

...and technically, driving 56mph in a 55 zone is a punishable infraction as is spitting on the sidewalk, but I'll take my chances. in this case, though, renting back to a defaulted owner is not usually a good play anyhow, so it's moot. Besides, its impossible to keep up with regulations. next year, the fed will be screening for people wearing their underwear backwards.

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Steven,

There are ways to do this more subtly. You could simply lease-option the house back to the sellers - completely unrecorded. They are in a beggar's position, so don't give away leverage unnecessarily through complexity.

I've done this many times in a previous life. It is my belief that you've just bought a rental property and your first tenants are the people that already lived there and failed to make payments. In all likeliness, you will be the next "creditor" to realize their eventual failure. I say this empirically, and not with undue cynicism or scorn. Just be prepared. Peace.

Post: Investors, FHA, and Mortgage Bailouts

Vincent D.Posted
  • SFR Investor
  • Indiana
  • Posts 137
  • Votes 24

We can agree that credit is tight in the current mortgage climate, right? Even for owner occupants with good credit, it would seem that banks are looking for reasons NOT to extend mortgage loans. Of course, investor leverage through the banks is now an obscure concept altogether.

Meanwhile, we investors bring private money into play and turn vacant house ghost-town neighborhoods back into viability. In a sense, we are the hero of the market plight - the Superman who restores houses from squalor to a role in the local economic dynamic.

Meanwhile, the federal government, via the Federal Housing Administration, wishes to continue its ill-fated proliferation of loans that don't make sense. What's more, as the federal government takes ownership of foreclosed inventory as repossessed by Fannie and Freddie, it then seeks to sell these houses to owner occupants TO THE PRECLUSION OF INVESTORS. In this way, it presents itself as the arch-enemy of Superman the Investor. Gotta love the 15-day lockout to investors on pure rehab inventory - imagine an OO couple pulling up in the driveway of some of these train wrecks and saying, "Oh, honey, this is the one!". What's more, what current loan product justifies the notion of an OO buying a primary residence that is $20K and two months from habitability?

Allow me a moment to pull the argument together, because its broader than just the 15-day owner occ-only FNMA and FHLMC sales that bother me. While noble, on the surface, the attempt by the federal government to restore stability to the housing market by selling to primary residents is fictitious, by and large, at a time when mortgage loans are so difficult to procure. Of course, since banks no longer feel comfortable making questionable loans without federal backing, the FHA remains steady in the wind to offer low-entry product to the same applicants who would be turned away without its gratuitous underwriting. And since so most people could not buy a house without a mortgage loan, FHA-insured lending emerges as the only option.

Didn't the federal government just bail out big bank default on taxpayer dime? Were these loans not the same, or similar product to what is still being promoted through FHA financing? Why is this setup any different, save for forcibly lower overall volume, that the unholy bubble created throughout the 90's and 00's and bursting officially in 2008? As I see it, what had been simply the "real estate bubble" is now the "recovery bubble". Unjustifiable loans are being handed out with the indirect backing of the taxpayer in an effort to "restore" the housing market. While its difficult to adopt this perspective while making money selling homes and closing mortgages, we're headed down an ill-advised path.

Since the government can continue to print money, defer the ever-increasing debt, and add burden to the productive through direct and indirect taxation, it has no true (short term) economic accountability. Most especially, this holds true in non-spotlighted bureaucracies like the FHA.

Mercenarially speaking, a new wave of foreclosures via fresh Fannie and Freddie REO is fodder for profit. Simply serving the role of buying and restoring vacant houses for rent leaves me in gainful position as often as the market spews out the consequence of bad loans. But in a greater sense of justice and enduring economic viability, I want to see the cessation of gratuitous federal lending programs and the natural, non-bailed-out correction to banks and borrowers alike. Oh, so cruel, I know. How could I be so heartless and insensitive? In reality, there is no other path by which to restore normalcy of capitalist processes in our economy. People and institutions must face the manifestations of failed investment to remain consistent with the same principles that have forever been the foundations of American prosperity.

The Invisible Hand, in reality, pays no heed to emotion in its unformulated natural guidance of the markets. So when a massive imposition such as government bailouts interrupts this natural course of events, which has served a capitalist economy for so many productive years, the hand can no longer guide. We are left to the machinations of those in the federal government who took the reins. Needing desperately to be needed, it will not hesitate to perpetuate the cycle of its gravity in the economy, real estate or otherwise. In other words, when we take handouts, it comes from the very hand which caused the bulk of the problem in the first place. "Recovery" under this skewed paradigm cannot be true or viable because of the sand upon which it has been founded.

Post: Tenant in Jail?

Vincent D.Posted
  • SFR Investor
  • Indiana
  • Posts 137
  • Votes 24

Michael,

I've had this happen before. In Indiana, my locale, lease law is favorable to the owner. My lease protects me against abandonment explicitly, and when I attended my hearing for "emergency repossession" the judge giggled and said I didn't have to go thru this step, though "technically" I was doing the right thing. Just be careful with shady peeps hanging out in the unit when you go to change the locks. I'd pack some heat, depending. Be sure to bar the doors and windows to the nth, too, b/c it is likely the dude's cronies will be kicking at doors and bustin' windows to recover "stuff".

As for the tenants possessions, I'm just not sure. If a tenant disappears and leaves furniture, etc, behind, you can't simply trash the stuff. You are required to do a "set out" and pay for moving expenses and storage for a month, in some cases. So much for owner-friendly, huh? The s**t may end up on that "Storage Wars" show :) That's the technical spin. In reality, I've tossed stuff directly into the roll-off container and bid it an unfriendly adieu.

Peace.

Post: Pay off student loan or purchase real estate

Vincent D.Posted
  • SFR Investor
  • Indiana
  • Posts 137
  • Votes 24

you should extend payoff of student loans for as long as possible. besides, it won't be long before the gov throws money at these lenders to reduce balances.

in any case, if you have inevstment money and sound knowledge, your real estate endeavors should easily cover the debt service on your student loans. besides, it soooo much more adventurous and interesting than working along the status quo baseline.

Post: "Scam This House"

Vincent D.Posted
  • SFR Investor
  • Indiana
  • Posts 137
  • Votes 24
Originally posted by Steve Babiak:
One way to not have anybody scammed on one of your rentals is to always have a "For Rent" sign at all of your rentals with YOUR contact info on it. Everybody will see it all along (any change and the neighbors can let you know), and it will keep your phone ringing (so you can fill any vacancy faster too).

The house has not been "for rent" for over three years.