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All Forum Posts by: Chris DeTreville

Chris DeTreville has started 8 posts and replied 100 times.

Post: Choosing between markets in MA, SC, and TX

Chris DeTrevillePosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Columbia, SC
  • Posts 103
  • Votes 102
Originally posted by @Michael Cosby:

Just FYI...

Property taxes for investors are 3x what they are for owner occupants in SC. Its hard to make the #s work here unless you get a crazy good deal. 

 This.  There are plenty of multi-family properties in Columbia and West Columbia.  But the taxes are going to eat your lunch.  The market is steady so I think it is maybe better in terms of risk...but you need to buy right and rent your stuff in the Summer to reduce vacancies since we are extremely seasonal (as I assume most markets are around college campuses) 

Post: Property Managers Survey

Chris DeTrevillePosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Columbia, SC
  • Posts 103
  • Votes 102

Forgot the most important one 

12.) How are you paid? What % do you charge? Do you have a leasing fee? How much?

Post: Property Managers Survey

Chris DeTrevillePosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Columbia, SC
  • Posts 103
  • Votes 102

This discussion is intended to gain some insight on how property managers from around the country run their business.  I am going to ask a bunch of questions- and if the property managers here on the site can answer them I think it will help future property managers who are looking to possibly start a business, and it will help the investors on the site see how PM's operate (maybe outside of what they are currently using).  Non- PM's are free to chime in maybe if they know how some of their PM's operate, but I'm particularly interested in the property managers that run their own business.  That being said, here are my questions:

* First please let us know how many units you manage

1.) What management software do you use?

2.) How do you process applications? How much do you charge? Do you do it manually or do you use a service? If you use a service, how does it check rental history? Please elaborate. 

3.) How do you handle maintenance calls? Do you have an employee that just handles maintenance calls and assigns it to vendors? Do you do it all by phone or can tenants put in requests online?  How about after hours? 

4.) Do you charge for repairs? In other words- do you take a cut from a repair bill?

5.) How do you show the units? Do you have leasing agents? If so, do they schedule by appointment? How are they paid? If not, do you check out keys to potential tenants? Please elaborate.

6.) How do tenants pay rent? Some management software can be used for rent payments- do you do that? Or can they pay online? Do you accept cash? 

7.) How do you handle keys? Do you keep several sets of keys in the office for vendors/leasing agents, etc to check out? What kind of system do you use to keep track of that? Do you have your own key machine?

8.) How do you determine which properties to take on? Do you prefer certain types? Small multi-family, commercial, SF homes, low income, etc? Do you believe its best to specialize in one type?

9.) Do you prefer to steer clear of accidental landlords? 

10.) How many employees do you have? Is there a certain # of employees you should hire based on # of units managed?

11.) How do you do property inspections once a tenant moves? Do you use an app? Do you have an inspection form you fill out and take pictures? How about inspections during a lease term? Do you schedule walk throughs every 3 months, 6 months, yearly? Not at all unless requested? 

That's about all I can think of right now.  If anyone else has a question they'd like to have answered please add it to the list.  Thanks!

Post: Common Tenant Problems

Chris DeTrevillePosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Columbia, SC
  • Posts 103
  • Votes 102
Originally posted by @Aly W.:
Originally posted by @Marcia Maynard:

Difficult tenants..... (some less common than others)

5. Liars. If we catch them lying during the application process, we don't rent to them. If we catch them lying after they are already a tenant, we can't trust them. Many liars are sneaks and rule breakers, some are sociopaths. Don't even think of lying to me, because I will likely find you out and the result won't be good for you!

Yes indeed! I usually find them out with the first phone call about the property. I always ask their name, first and last. Sometimes while I have them on the phone, I'll look them up on the county court web site, and ask "Do you have any evictions, judgments, criminal history?" 

It's always, nope, my background is clean. Me: Then why do I see 4 evictions in your name dating back to 2000? And they still deny it! It's not me, nope. Same thing when the formal background check comes in.

File this one under sociopathic liars: A tenant and his family that painted the property, stained the cabinets, installed a backsplash (all poorly done and without permission), removed a light fixture, spray painted the patio, damaged the new appliances, ruined the carpeting, and more.

Our fault for not inspecting regularly, but the kicker was when I told the tenant I had before and after photos and would be pursuing legal action, the tenant actually said that all that damage was there when they moved in, and all they did was paint! Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

Then there are tenants that won't cooperate with access to the property, even with proper notice. We don't tolerate that, but it's still unpleasant.

Good point.  We come across that a lot and while we always win that battle- it is certainly unpleasant.  

I would just say that inconsiderate or mean tenants are the biggest issue.  It causes all sorts of problems and can make the entire experience miserable.  The worst part is, it is not something that you can really screen for.  They can be pleasant throughout the initial process and as long as they get a good rental reference(landlord may want them gone) they will check out.  Maybe they fall under the sociopath category.  

Post: Property Management Setup

Chris DeTrevillePosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Columbia, SC
  • Posts 103
  • Votes 102
Originally posted by @Eric O'Brian:

I'm going to be helping my mentor start his property management company, I've talked to him on various levels about it already.

From what I understand, the most important part will be screening the right properties, as well as filling them with the right tenants. A well maintained property with good tenants can be a good source of income for a property management company with almost no upkeep.

But on the opposite end a house that needs a lot of maintenance with bad tenants can be a nightmare. I'll be learning more soon as we start it up in the next few weeks.

 Eric, have you and your mentor set up a company? How did it go?

Post: Pit bull at property...be sure to talk with neighbors, they'll tell all.

Chris DeTrevillePosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Columbia, SC
  • Posts 103
  • Votes 102

"It'll just come visit one weekend a month" 

"It's not a pit it's a Staffordshire Terrier"

"He's the sweetest dog ever, crate trained, doesn't chew" (and variations of this, over and over)

@Joel Owens it's a cultural statement and a pride thing.  They want to show everyone that you can have a pit that doesn't maul children.  Congratulations on your experiment, but your dog is still not allowed. 

Post: support dogs what can and cant I do

Chris DeTrevillePosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Columbia, SC
  • Posts 103
  • Votes 102

The management company I work for had a guy come in and sign a lease, mention nothing about a dog, then when he came to get the keys he brought a letter from a doctor and informed us he had a "support dog" for some type of emotional deal he had. The owner of the property had a no pet policy. What a load of BS

Post: support dogs what can and cant I do

Chris DeTrevillePosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Columbia, SC
  • Posts 103
  • Votes 102

Check out these articles

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2014/01/13/fake-service-dogs-a-growing-problem/

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/investigations/Frustrated-by-Fake-Service-Dogs-208233211.html

Post: Property Managers: How do you pay your leasing agents?

Chris DeTrevillePosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Columbia, SC
  • Posts 103
  • Votes 102

I know what property managers usually charge owners, but my question is how you as a business owner/property manager pay your agents. I am a leasing agent for a property management company and I am paid an hourly wage plus 30% of the leasing fee which varies, but our fees are low compared to other companies. For example, many of our properties have a $150 flat leasing fee when the unit is rented. I am wondering if it is better as the owner of the company to not pay the leasing agent an hourly wage and pay them larger commissions instead. There are benefits to having a full time employee do the leasing because we can do a lot of other stuff. Just looking to see what the alternatives are out there compared to how we do things.

Post: Property Managers: How do you pay your leasing agents?

Chris DeTrevillePosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Columbia, SC
  • Posts 103
  • Votes 102

So one months rent plus salary/hourly wage or is it 100% commission based?