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All Forum Posts by: Robert Collins

Robert Collins has started 129 posts and replied 386 times.

Post: Wealth Ability- formerly ProVision - Tom Wheelwright

Robert CollinsPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Greenville County SC / Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 403
  • Votes 120
Quote from @Samia Moughanni:

Where do I begin? Tom Wheelwright’s WealthAbility is a full-on SCAM with shoddy ‘business practices’ that needs to be investigated for consumer fraud! Let me first provide you with an accurate and honest one-liner to summarize what to expect if you decide to work with WealthAbility followed by a detailed account of my own personal experience with the company.

Quick Summary: WealthAbility acts as a middleman, a go-between, that pairs you with a CPA. That’s it! They will charge you $25k to connect you with a CPA who is not a WealthAbility employee, they are contract workers. These CPAs have their own companies and are taking a pay cut working with WealthAbility in the hopes of gaining wealthy well-vetted clients.

Of note, there is a clear difference between tax strategy planning and tax preparation and the $25k paid was claimed by WealthAbility to cover both. We believed that the main portion of that fee would go towards the tax strategy portion where your designated ‘tax team’ would help you create a customized ‘tax strategy plan’ to minimize your taxes moving forward, while the tax preparation for a simple portfolio like ours was thought to cost no more than $2k of the total fee. We were okay with that fee aslong as they delivered on their claims.

Detailed Summary: In June 2023, WealthAbility swindled us out of TWENTY-FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS with the use of deceptive practices, false promises, and largely inaccurate claims of providing a "full-service" detailed and customized wealth and tax strategy plan, guidance for plan implementation, tax preparation and filing, and much more with a rigorously vetted CPA and support team. Grandiose claims that we initially read on the company website and then had repeated to us by Kirt Bassi, the client relationship manager, over the phone. The ethically correct thing to do would have been for Kirt to communicate to us during our initial consultation that we were not a good fit for the program given that we were already too advanced. We already had a strong financial foundation with a clear focus in real-estate investing. We did not need help in deciding what our investment niche would be; we needed help in creating and implementing a tax strategy plan for a married couple composed of a high-income earner and a real estate agent and business owner.

A few weeks after paying the $25k, we set up our first meeting with our assigned CPA and started the so-called “advanced tax courses” provided, which are generic modules that only vaguely introduce financial concepts, topics, and terminology. These courses are NOT advanced in any sense of the word. They are elementary at best and NOT tailored to the clients’ specific needs or interests which should have been conveyed to us at the beginning. Tom Wheelwright’s books contain more detailed information than the online courses do. After completing 3 of the 10 courses from the Road Map Courses, we started to express our concerns and dissatisfaction with the program to our CPA, who talked us into ‘giving the program a chance’ and continuing with the coursework and the meetings. We tried to stay positive and hopeful that we would see the value in the program and that it would be worth our time and money, but we were just kidding ourselves. Nothing changed and nothing got better.

WealthAbility inaccurately claims to thoughtfully pair their clients with an elite, well-trained CPA, and tax strategy team - but we were not given a team, just a poorly vetted arrogant CPA who was late to almost every session and who never took notes on our financial situation making us feel as if we were meeting him for the first time every time. On multiple occasions he had us wasting our time looking up unnecessary tax forms online because he wasn’t well versed in tax code. Even when pressed for customized tax planning advice, he could or would not deliver. Instead, he used our one-hour sessions to review and repeat the exact same useless generic information contained within the online modules and to sell us on buying his whole life insurance policy he sold on the side. In hindsight, we should have been paired with a CPA who specialized in tax code for real estate investors - our assigned CPA was not. Honestly, we should have been easy clients - we came to him with a plan in place wanting his help on claiming REP status, setting up a cost segregation for a rental property bought and functioning in 2022, so that we could file for 100% bonus depreciation for that tax year. He kept avoiding our requests and said we should claim it in our 2023 taxes instead… The last straw for us was when he tried to charge us another $7.5k to file our taxes which obviously ended our relationship instantly. That’s when we reached out to client services and expressed our dissatisfaction with the company in August 2023 (only 2 months after starting the program). Funny thing is that both Brad Doran and Alan Kirkham mentioned to me over the phone how they both knew that our CPA had a reputation for being disliked and having problems with multiple clients, but yet that CPA was still working with WealthAbility and was still being paired with clients! Since our 2022 taxes were due in October 2023 (CA extended due date), we knew that we wouldn’t find another CPA to do our taxes in time, so we allowed Brad Doran and Alan Kirkham to match us with another ‘WealthAbility CPA’ to complete our tax prep and filing, while they worked on coordinating a refund for us… a refund that was promised to us repeatedly, but still has yet to come to fruition.

Alan Kirkham is WealthAbility’s client success manager who is amazing at lying about doing things he has no intention of doing like providing a refund. He is also amazing at never following up, never reaching out or providing updates, and stellar at avoiding all communication attempts from the customer. He has promised countless times over several months (5 months to be exact) to come back to us with "a proposal by the end of this week" via email on 11/28/23 and "we will get this wrapped up this week" via email on 12/11/23 - and we are already in the first week of February 2024 without a proposal and without any progress in coming to a resolution. Those promises quoted are only from one email chain of ours - I have record of multiple others I’d be happy to provide to everybody and anybody interested. This severely subpar customer service, lack of timely correspondence and initiative from Alan Kirkham should be unacceptable for a company that claims to be top notch and superior to all other CPA / tax advising firms and charges clients a ridiculous $25k fee for their 'all-inclusive services'. Our last email from Alan confirmed our suspicions that we were getting jerked around by him admitting that it was his fault that the refund process was dragging on because he ‘knew what was in our best interest to do’ and that was for us to relaunch the program instead of giving us a refund. What a joke! What a scam! After giving Alan Kirkham 5 months to right this wrong and come up with a fair resolution, we have been left in the dark with no set plans or expectations and no true point of contact, which is why we have decided to share our experience here.

This whole experience was a huge disappointment, waste of money and time! I would NOT recommend this company to my worst enemy and I hope that I can prevent others from being scammed by WealthAbility by posting my personal experience on as many forums, websites, platforms as possible and by filing complaints to every agency out there that deals with consumer fraud. I encourage all others who have been swindled or have had similar experiences to share them too and to submit complaints to the Better Business Bureau, Department of Consumer Affairs, Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, State Board of Accountancy, Federal Trade Commission, Police Department’s Financial Crime Unit, and the District Attorney.

For the potential franchisee owners who are considering this as a business, I would run the other way! And for the companies that endorse WealthAbility, I would think twice about putting your stamp of approval on such a sleazy sham of a business. As a business owner myself, I would not want to claim association with, let alone endorse a low-quality company with deceptive business practices, like WealthAbility – it just reflects poorly.


 dang sorry to hear you went through that, I had a similar experience with Anderson advisors, they got me got about 3500 up front and 35/month for a year and half smh I couldn't ever get anyone on the phone, its was nightmare 

Post: First time flipper in Simpsonville, SC looking for contractor advice

Robert CollinsPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Greenville County SC / Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 403
  • Votes 120
Quote from @Ken Faust:

Hello

Did you find a good contractor? I'm in Simpsonville as well, and I'm actively looking. I see you have done some wholesaling. Do you have anything at the moment?

Thanks,

Ken


 hey yeah we completed the project we have it on the market currently, i dont have anything in that area at moment, but im always looking, i do have a property in columbia and in hampton ga both a set the close with buyers, lets stay connected

Post: Prefab slabs from Floor and Decor? Any reviews or experience?

Robert CollinsPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Greenville County SC / Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 403
  • Votes 120
Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:
Quote from @Robert Collins:

@Jodi McKelvin How did they turn out? I need to pull the trigger on some countertops asap and I came across those prefab countertops like you and they are tempting. 


Pre Fab countertops are great for a kitchen where there are no special cabinets or weird measurements, just a basic straight run of cabinets. Some places even have precut island tops now.....and you can't beat the price savings. The cut-outs for the sink and faucets are usually only $200 or so.

Ok, great! They are basic cabinets so I may just go that route. Thanks!

Post: Prefab slabs from Floor and Decor? Any reviews or experience?

Robert CollinsPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Greenville County SC / Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 403
  • Votes 120

@Jodi McKelvin How did they turn out? I need to pull the trigger on some countertops asap and I came across those prefab countertops like you and they are tempting. 

Post: Seeking Lead Management/Acquisition Partner for Real Estate Team in SC & GA Markets

Robert CollinsPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Greenville County SC / Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 403
  • Votes 120

Hello Bigger Pocket community,

We are currently searching for a skilled individual to join our real estate team, focusing on lead management and acquisition in the SC and GA markets. If you have experience or a keen interest in real estate, this could be a fantastic opportunity for you!

The primary responsibilities of this role include managing leads within our CRM, prioritizing them from hot to cold, and conducting warm calls to prospects who have expressed interest in selling their property. Additionally, the tasks involve getting the agreement signed by the seller, uploading campaigns for the marketing team's cold calling and SMS blasting efforts, as well as pulling and skip tracing lists on a monthly basis.

We are looking for someone with flexible afternoon availability, as it will be crucial to lock up deals promptly when the leads come in hot. This role could also be an excellent stepping stone for a newly licensed agent, as it presents an opportunity to list properties if they aren't suitable for wholesale deals.

If you are enthusiastic about the real estate industry and believe you have the time and dedication to handle these tasks, we would love to connect with you. Let's join forces and add value to each other in the SC and GA markets!

Please reach out to us here or via direct message to discuss further.

Thank you,

[Robert - ARHB Team ]

Post: Seeking Lead Management/Acquisition Partner for Real Estate Team in SC & GA Markets

Robert CollinsPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Greenville County SC / Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 403
  • Votes 120

Hello Bigger Pocket community,

We are currently searching for a skilled individual to join our real estate team, focusing on lead management and acquisition in the SC and GA markets. If you have experience or a keen interest in real estate, this could be a fantastic opportunity for you!

The primary responsibilities of this role include managing leads within our CRM, prioritizing them from hot to cold, and conducting warm calls to prospects who have expressed interest in selling their property. Additionally, the tasks involve getting the agreement signed by the seller, uploading campaigns for the marketing team's cold calling and SMS blasting efforts, as well as pulling and skip tracing lists on a monthly basis.

We are looking for someone with flexible afternoon availability, as it will be crucial to lock up deals promptly when the leads come in hot. This role could also be an excellent stepping stone for a newly licensed agent, as it presents an opportunity to list properties if they aren't suitable for wholesale deals.

If you are enthusiastic about the real estate industry and believe you have the time and dedication to handle these tasks, we would love to connect with you. Let's join forces and add value to each other in the SC and GA markets!

Please reach out to us here or via direct message to discuss further.

Thank you,

[Robert - ARHB Team ]

Post: Seeking Realtors in Decatur, GA for Potential Leads

Robert CollinsPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Greenville County SC / Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 403
  • Votes 120

Hello Bigger Pockets community,

My name is Robert Collins, and I am a real estate investor who is passionate about creating win-win-win situations. Currently, I am looking to connect with realtors in the Decatur, GA area who might be interested in receiving leads for sellers that I market to but may not be the right fit for my investment criteria. These leads could be a perfect match for an on-market listing.

If you're a realtor in the Decatur area and are open to exploring such opportunities, I'd love to chat and see how we can mutually benefit from this arrangement. Feel free to reach out to me directly or drop a message here, and we can take it from there.

Looking forward to connecting with you all and creating successful partnerships!

Best regards, Robert Collins

Post: Looking to connect with investors in Anniston, AL

Robert CollinsPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Greenville County SC / Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 403
  • Votes 120

Hi everyone,

My name is Robert and I'm a real estate investor in Anniston, AL. I'm looking to connect with other investors in the area to learn from each other and collaborate on deals.

I've been investing in real estate for the past 3 years and have a good understanding of the market in Anniston. I'm currently looking for opportunities to buy, fix, and flip homes, as well as build a portfolio of rental properties. 

I'm a hard worker and I'm always looking for ways to improve my skills. I'm also a great listener and I'm always open to learning new things.

If you're an investor in the Anniston area, I'd love to connect with you. Please feel free to reach out to me

Post: Using Hard Money to BRRRR a Property

Robert CollinsPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Greenville County SC / Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 403
  • Votes 120

Hi everyone,

My name is Robert and I'm a real estate investor. I've been doing BRRRR (buy, rehab, rent, refinance, repeat) for the past few years and I've had a lot of success with it. I've used my own cash to finance my deals so far, but I'm thinking about tapping into hard money loans to BRRRR more properties.

I'm interested in hearing from other investors who have used hard money loans for BRRRR. What was your experience like? What were the pros and cons? Would you recommend it to other investors?

I'm also interested in hearing from investors who have flipped properties and then decided to hold them. What was your motivation for changing your strategy? What were the pros and cons of holding the properties? Would you recommend it to other investors?

I'm still in the early stages of planning, so I'm open to any and all advice. I'm really excited about the potential of BRRRR, but I want to make sure I'm doing it right.

Thanks in advance for your help!

I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts on hard money loans and BRRRR. If you have any questions or advice, please feel free to share them in the comments below.

Thanks again,

Robert

Post: Looking to invest in large multi family

Robert CollinsPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Greenville County SC / Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 403
  • Votes 120
Quote from @Bob Stevens:
Quote from @Robert Collins:

Hi everyone,

My name is Robert and I'm a real estate investor based in Douglasville, GA. I've been investing in single-family rentals for the past few years, and I'm now looking to get into large multifamily properties. I'm excited about the potential for growth in this area, and I'm looking for partners and mentors who can help me take my investing to the next level.

I've done a few wholesale deals in the past, and I'm familiar with the basics of multifamily investing. However, I know that there's a lot more to learn, and I'm eager to connect with others who can share their knowledge and experience.

I'm open to investing in any area where I can get my foot in the door. I've done deals in Augusta, GA, Columbus, GA, Anderson, Greenville, and Spartanburg, SC, but I'm also interested in other markets.

If you're an experienced multifamily investor, or if you're just getting started like me, I'd love to connect with you. I'm looking for partners, mentors, and anyone else who can help me learn and grow.

Thanks, Robert

 Ok so as I have posted in the past, " What value are you bringing to the table"  You are asking me to " partner " with you, ok tell me why. Do you have deals, cash if so how much? I have extensive experience in the Cleveland markets having done about 500 deals out there, thousands of reno/ repairs, PM and more, really nothing I have not done. I can provide the asset, ( thats my value along with years of experience)  what " value" are you providing? 

I hope you are not taking my post as an attack, its not meant that way at all. 

Hey thanks for feedback, I'm not sure if I have a lot to offer right now, since I don't have any direct experience with multi-family properties. However, I do have some transferable skills from my experience with single-family homes in Georgia, South Carolina, and Alabama. I'm also eager to learn more about multi-family investing, and I'm confident that I can quickly pick up the skills I need. I know that you are in Cleveland, im here in Ga and not that you would need it but if you ever need boots on the ground for something I would be willing to do that for you, or anyone else who runs across this post that wants to get things done , I’m just eager to connect and learn what I can from those who are where I would like to be.