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All Forum Posts by: Jackie Lange

Jackie Lange has started 52 posts and replied 405 times.

Post: House Sold Without Paying Off My Lien

Jackie LangePosted
  • Investor
  • Central America, Panama
  • Posts 423
  • Votes 293

This is the biggest, strangest mess that I have even encountered in 20+ years of doing real estate investing.

I don't understand how a title company could let this happen. 

And I really don't understand why a title company would not instantly make things right when it is brought to their attention (which has already happened).  

Post: House Sold Without Paying Off My Lien

Jackie LangePosted
  • Investor
  • Central America, Panama
  • Posts 423
  • Votes 293

The property is in Dallas County, Texas.  The title company was Designated Title.  
But I live in Panama.  (Central America)

The only way to get this ball rolling without it costing me a lot of $ is to file a foreclosure.  Since the note is in the name of the person I sold to, I would think she will have to be named in the foreclosure even though she is not in title anymore.  The current owners have no responsibility to pay my lien.  But their house was the collateral for the loan.  Their mortgage company, who has a junior lien at this point, will need to be notified too.

What a mess!

I'm talking to 3 lawyers on Monday and will pick one. 

Post: House Sold Without Paying Off My Lien

Jackie LangePosted
  • Investor
  • Central America, Panama
  • Posts 423
  • Votes 293

The title company has been reported to the Attorney General and other agencies but like anything in government, it is s-l-o-w.  I want to get this resolved faster.

Post: House Sold Without Paying Off My Lien

Jackie LangePosted
  • Investor
  • Central America, Panama
  • Posts 423
  • Votes 293

Filing foreclosure is about $1500 and takes a few months.

A lawsuit starts at $5,000 and goes up by the hour.    But the time if finally got settled, the attorney would likely get more money than I would.

If I file foreclosure on the old owner, she will probably ignore it... she has nothing to lose.

But filing foreclosure on the new owners will get them to take action contacting the title company and their Title Insurance company.  If they fail to take action, I get the house back.  Either way I win going this route.

Post: House Sold Without Paying Off My Lien

Jackie LangePosted
  • Investor
  • Central America, Panama
  • Posts 423
  • Votes 293

Yes I verified that my lien was recorded and that the legal description was correct.  

The house was sold to the new buyers with a Warranty Deed and they got Title Insurance (which is no good because my lien is still out there and superior to the mortgage they got to buy the house)

I'm already contacting several real estate lawyers in Dallas.  

Unfortunately, Designated Title (who closed the deal) is not just doing the right thing to pay off my lien.  In 20+ years of doing real estate investing I have never heard of a title company not paying off a recorded lien and not even calling for a pay off. 

Post: House Sold Without Paying Off My Lien

Jackie LangePosted
  • Investor
  • Central America, Panama
  • Posts 423
  • Votes 293

About 10 years ago, I sold a house with seller financing. I closed at a title company.  They recorded my deed of trust (mortgage). 

The buyer stopped paying me.  I discovered that she sold the house a few months ago but the title company in Dallas Texas completely overlooked my lien. They never called for a payoff.  The funds were given to the seller (my buyer).  

The title company says call the seller but she's not returning my calls or emails.   

The title company's error and omission insurance should kick in, but it will require a lawsuit to get them to pay.

Or, I could foreclosure on the house since no payments have been made for several months.  


Looks like I will have to file a lawsuit against the title company, lawsuit against the person I sold the house to, and file for foreclosure if I ever want to see my money.

Has anyone else ever had this happen?  

Post: Newbie questions about wholesaling

Jackie LangePosted
  • Investor
  • Central America, Panama
  • Posts 423
  • Votes 293

Why buy from a wholesaler?  Find your own deals and do your own negotiating to avoid paying middleperson fees or real estate agent commissions!  This will increase your profits too!

If you buy properties which are listed with an agent, they want you to pay the maximum amount so their commission will be higher.  It's a conflict of interest when they want more so their commission will be higher but you need to get the price as low as possible so the deal makes sense.  Most agents will say just about anything to get you to pay more.  Even if you hire a buyer's agent to represent you, they are looking out for themselves to get the highest commission.  

PLUS, if you are buy properties directly from owners ( versus MLS or wholesalers), you have a much better chance of negotiating to buy the property with seller financing. This will dramatically reduce your out of pocket expenses and, most importantly, you can avoid the need to get a loan with all their associated loan fees, points and other junk fees.

Never, ever expect the person selling you the house (owner, wholesaler, or agent) to provide accurate information on comps, repair costs, etc.  They can easily be manipulate all this data.    You need to do you OWN independent research (from multiple sources) for these important items which could make or break the profitability of your deal.  

Post: Subject to, Guidance and Education.

Jackie LangePosted
  • Investor
  • Central America, Panama
  • Posts 423
  • Votes 293

If you make things too complicated, a seller will say no!  So, you need to keep things simple.  Sellers are nervous about selling subject-to their mortgage because they have no recourse if you don't pay the mortgage yet they are still on the hook for it.  The simple solution is to buy the house with a seller finance wrap instead.  The wrap will mirror the underlying loan.  So, it is essentially the same as buying subject-to for you but the big difference for the seller is they get a mortgage or deed of trust which spells out that they can foreclose on you if you don't make a payment.  This protects the seller.  They feel much more comfortable with this arrangement.  You need to close at an attorney office or title company.  

Post: 1/2 Price on Real Estate Investing eBooks

Jackie LangePosted
  • Investor
  • Central America, Panama
  • Posts 423
  • Votes 293

We have more than 40 eBooks about real estate investing.  Learn about buying, selling, negotiating, creative financing and more.  Many of the books were written by the Legendary and very creative investor Jack Miller.  These ebooks are currently 1/2 price starting as low as $2.97.  

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Post: Just wondering if anyone has heard of Jack Miller

Jackie LangePosted
  • Investor
  • Central America, Panama
  • Posts 423
  • Votes 293

Jack Miller's 3-day seminar, Foundations of Wealth is available for free online too.