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All Forum Posts by: Caroline Widjaja

Caroline Widjaja has started 6 posts and replied 82 times.

Post: Still Buying Investment Property or Waiting to See What Happens?

Caroline WidjajaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 84
  • Votes 54
Quote from @Steve Vaughan:
Quote from @Sophie Grizzle:

Investors & Cash Buyers - are you still buying investment properties right now? Why or why not? I'm curious to see what people think about the current market conditions and what their strategy is in alignment with that. 

After a 20 year run, I sold my multis last year.   I was tired and cap rates equalled risk-free returns.  
I'm not waiting to buy again but probably will when caps come up.   
Knowing when to buy is easier than knowing when to sell.   I'll take my chair and popcorn and enjoy until theFor me, Buying is always harder than selling. 

 For me, buying is always harder than selling...

Post: Still Buying Investment Property or Waiting to See What Happens?

Caroline WidjajaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 84
  • Votes 54

Hello Sophie, I am still buying investment properties, but I focus more on cash flow. Year by year, it's becoming tough to find cash-flowing properties all over the states. I know the interest rate is high right now, but I'm planning to refi when the interest rate is go down (hoping the interest rate will go down in the next 3-5 years).

Post: Is anybody cashflowing right now???

Caroline WidjajaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 84
  • Votes 54

In your case, don't buy. Mine is still cash flowing on my newly acquired property. I used BRRRR method.

Post: What's your magic cash flow number?

Caroline WidjajaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 84
  • Votes 54

Mine is netting $300-500/door. I rarely have vacancies for all of my properties, mostly are multi-year tenants. All of my properties are in C-Class neighborhood. You won't get much cash flow in A & B-Class properties. Finding a good tenant that takes care of your properties is also a key, besides finding  good properties at the right time. 

Post: What's your magic cash flow number?

Caroline WidjajaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 84
  • Votes 54
Quote from @David Lund:
Quote from @Ben Zimmerman:

Cashflow numbers will be highly dependent on the geographic location.  

There are cities you can throw a dart at a map and hit a cash flowing property, and other cities where positive cash flow of any kind can be challenging during year 1.

Personally I prioritize buying homes in areas that are reasonably expected to outperform the overall market in terms of price appreciation.  Using this strategy you will certainly cashflow less during year 1, but fast forward to year 10 and you will almost certainly significantly outperform the average in terms of both current cashflow, as well as total cashflow generated during those 10 years due to regular rent raises.

Cashflow is required to pay the bills, but appreciation is the primary driver in building wealth.  And when there is significant price appreciation, there is almost always a corresponding significant increase in rent rates which leads to large cashflow.

What’s the best way to know if an area is going to have good appreciate in the future?

Simple answer: Only an experienced local realtor knows.

Post: Housing crash deniers ???

Caroline WidjajaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 84
  • Votes 54

Sometimes people overreact over nothing. Some layoffs happened, but the company are still hiring seasonal workers. If you look at other career opportunities such as accounting in real estate firm/other industries, you will see tons of job opportunities out there right now. Bottom line, company feels overpaying the employees, so they did some layoffs, and then rehire them at a much lower pay during the "recession/crash/whatever you name it".  Company are just taking advantage of the situation. 

Post: Housing crash deniers ???

Caroline WidjajaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 84
  • Votes 54
Quote from @Carlos Ptriawan:
Quote from @Nicholas L.:

One thing that gets overlooked is that not every property purchased by an institutional buyer is held by them. According to NAR only 42% of SFH purchases by institutional investors are kept as rentals.


I used to track their activity, they usually do a buy-fix-rental-sell model, most of their purchases were between 2014-2016, and sold the same houses in 2018-2019. Their activity is quite a good indication of when the market would make impactful changes. Now if JLL is entering the spaces I think they may have a future plan to have REIT specific to regional SFR only. This company in particular never loses investor money.

I used to work in one of the private equity firm where it's used to be only 3 big players back then (American Homes 4 Rent, Blackstone, & Colony Capital). The company that I worked for were invested heavily in SFR only (buy, small fix-up, and rent it out), bought a lot of JP Morgan portfolios and made a lot of money from that. It is not a surprise to me that now BlackRock, JP Morgan, and JLL enter this market. My big boss once told us "US will become a renter's nation", you will see if he's telling the truth or not.

Post: Is there a positive cash flow in California?

Caroline WidjajaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 84
  • Votes 54

It's true that it's tough to find cash-flowing properties in CA. It's either small ROI or break-even. Most investors only rely on appreciation in CA. I once worked for a big hedge fund real estate firm in CA, even though they bought bulks of SFH properties from the big banks, their ROI only 5-6%, and they bought it 8-10 years ago. By now, they have A LOT OF equities from it. I would say they made a pretty good move back then, even the ROI is small.

Post: Are you currently investing in Columbus?

Caroline WidjajaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 84
  • Votes 54

Started investing in Q4 2017 and I wish we bought a lot back then. I've been so blessed to find my good and honest real estate agent & PM in Columbus, and so far it's a smooth sailing, no regrets or mistakes for ALL of my deals in Columbus. Keep in mind that I have a pretty good real estate investment background for many years before jumping into Columbus market and my husband is a Buckeye alumni and maybe that helps. If I were you, you need to fly to Columbus to see the neighborhood and to get an idea what kind of neighborhood you're looking for. One street maybe lined up with many good properties, the other street maybe lined up with some boarded homes.

Post: Does the 1% Rule still apply in California?

Caroline WidjajaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 84
  • Votes 54

1% rule or 10% rule is NOT applicable in CA. That's the truth. CA market is good for appreciation only. If you're looking for a 1 or 10% rule, you have a better chance investing out of CA.