Skip to content
×
PRO
Pro Members Get Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
$0
TODAY
$69.00/month when billed monthly.
$32.50/month when billed annually.
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
Already a Pro Member? Sign in here
Pick markets, find deals, analyze and manage properties. Try BiggerPockets PRO.
x
All Forum Categories
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

All Forum Posts by: Philip Bourdon

Philip Bourdon has started 26 posts and replied 82 times.

Post: Buyer's List - How Soon?

Philip BourdonPosted
  • Pittsburgh, PA
  • Posts 87
  • Votes 14

Hi 727. Thanks for the courteous replies. However, if you notice what I said, I am buying older mobile homes for cash and selling them by holding the note ("Lonnie Deals"). So, the buyers are folks not with much money who will live in them and not investors. I'm also not doing any rentals.

Thanks again for the courteous reply.

Post: Role Of LLC with Mobile Home Lonnie Deals?

Philip BourdonPosted
  • Pittsburgh, PA
  • Posts 87
  • Votes 14

Hi. I understand the importance of LLC's with rentals and the such. If I have a number of Mobile Home Lonnie Deals where I am carrying notes, what then would the LLC be doing? Is it buying and selling property?

Post: Buyer's List - How Soon?

Philip BourdonPosted
  • Pittsburgh, PA
  • Posts 87
  • Votes 14

Hi. In September I'll start buying "Lonnie Deals." How soon before should I start advertising for buyers? If the advice is "right away," then when I have some homes for sale in September, won't that list be more or less outdated? Thanks!

Post: SAFE Act Affecting Lonnie Deals

Philip BourdonPosted
  • Pittsburgh, PA
  • Posts 87
  • Votes 14
Originally posted by Tyler McCracken:
Phillip... I don't have all the answers. I will say it depends on two fronts... Does your State have Safe Act Regulations that the Fed defers to if in place? Such as NC allows a seller to owner finance to 5 owner occupants per year.

Best bet is to find a well versed Investor Friendly Attorney (locally) that knows the laws.

Thanks, Tyler

Post: SAFE Act Affecting Lonnie Deals

Philip BourdonPosted
  • Pittsburgh, PA
  • Posts 87
  • Votes 14

Hi. Here I was feeling excited about doing Lonnie deals in the Fall when I have access to 80+K, and then I read about the SAFE act. There have been many helpful comments about it, but there has also been much confusion.

If anyone here can tell us how to operate as a Lonnie dealer and still be compliant, please tell us. My questions are:

-Who can are the Mortgage Originators (hopefully I have the right term)?
-How much does it cost?
-How long does it take?

Namely, let’s hear what the process entails. I’m sure many will just crank out the buy/sells, but that’s taking a big chance without compliance.

Thanks,

Philip

Post: Talking to MHP Managers - How to do it?

Philip BourdonPosted
  • Pittsburgh, PA
  • Posts 87
  • Votes 14
Originally posted by Marc Faulkner:
I like your idea of being honest but, you have to understand that park managers are a breed out their own. Most of them were promoted from among the tenants and have no clue about this business of operating or keeping a park full. They will look at you as competition a lot of times. If you sell more homes and do more good for the park then they are, how does that make them look to the boss. I suggest focusing in on the owners and forget about trying to explain your investment strategy to managers for the most part as it won't get you far in most cases as the manager is just going to have to get approval from the owner anyhow. If you let them explain your plan to the owner they will almost always lose something in the translation. Go for the owners / decision makers. Now with that said-as soon as you are in with the owner you should become as friendly as possible with the manager and let them know what's in it for them. They typically won't care if another lot gets full or they get another lease signed if they have no incentive to do so, it is only more work. Make it worth while for them to send deals your way-both buyers and sellers. Most are low paid so a couple of hundy goes a long ways.

Thanks, mark for that feedback. I have read many of your forum comments and appreciate your insight and experience.

How does one find the owners outside of asking the managers who they are?

Yes, I wanted to offer at least $100 to the managers since money motivates.

Your perspective on the managers does make sense. I realize that all are not the same, but at least if I have that awareness of the way many are, it can only help.

Thanks again for the thoughtful comments and taking the time; I appreciate it.

Post: Talking to MHP Managers - How to do it?

Philip BourdonPosted
  • Pittsburgh, PA
  • Posts 87
  • Votes 14
Originally posted by SolidReturns:
First, be sure to bring coffee & donuts to the manager. Coffee & donuts are universally accepted.

Second, just tell them that you're an investor, and that you're going to need their help. In return, you will help them by keeping their parks full of lot-rent paying customers. Win-win.

Coffee and donuts is an intelligent approach. Thanks for that.

Post: Talking to MHP Managers - How to do it?

Philip BourdonPosted
  • Pittsburgh, PA
  • Posts 87
  • Votes 14
Originally posted by Tod Radford:
Hi Philip,

It's been a while since I've read Lonnie's book but don't you explain that you are not renting but in fact providing financing?

Yes, I will.

Post: Talking to MHP Managers - How to do it?

Philip BourdonPosted
  • Pittsburgh, PA
  • Posts 87
  • Votes 14

Hi. When Lonnie Scruggs talks to MHP managers he often claims heis trying to help a young couple buy a home; I'm not comfortable with that. Eventually, the odds are that the manager will find out that you lied and what does that make you in his/her eyes?

What's wrong with being upfront right from the beginning, stating that you desire to purchase older homes for cash and intend to keep them in the park. Then, telling him/her that you will "spruce up" some and sell others "as is." Then, simply say that you will bring in buyers (that must "pass" the application process).

I will be using retirement money in the Fall to start my business. In the meantime, I want to talk to as many managers as possible. I simply want to build trust and feel that Lonnie's story is not a good way for me.

Thanks,

Philip

Post: MHP Condition - How Important?

Philip BourdonPosted
  • Pittsburgh, PA
  • Posts 87
  • Votes 14
Originally posted by Greg B.:
I agree. However, you have to be able to tell the difference between a run down MHP and a war zone. To me a run down park presents a lot of opportunity to work with the park owner to bring the place back to life if the terms are favorable.

I would completely stay away from a war zone. The residents of the neighborhood know if the MHP is a trouble spot or just older.

An important distinction, Greg. I want to be able to see Parks with the eyes of opportunity. Yet, at the same time with wisdom.

I'm assuming that if I talk to some of the residents, I'll find out what it really is.

My question to you is, how could an investor bring it "back to life?" I don't know if I want to start by rehabbing vs. selling "as is." Then, it would just be one home. Are you implying having a vision of buying more?

Thanks for the thoughtful input.

Good luck.