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All Forum Posts by: Jon Passow

Jon Passow has started 26 posts and replied 97 times.

Post: Buy as you go Skip Tracing?

Jon PassowPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 98
  • Votes 19

I need to get about three properties skip traced. Sherpa says I need to do a 3 mo contract. Anyone know of a site that you can just do a pay as you go skip trace without having to sign up for a service commitment?

Also, how would one skip trace a llc instead of a single person?

Post: Cleveland Pre Foreclosure List. Not So Easy To Get As I Hoped....

Jon PassowPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 98
  • Votes 19
Originally posted by @Steven Dragmen:

You can get the Daily Legal news, it lists all of the recent filed foreclosures.  There are your Pre Foreclosure leads.

Thanks, Steven!!!

Post: Cleveland Pre Foreclosure List. Not So Easy To Get As I Hoped....

Jon PassowPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 98
  • Votes 19

I am kneed deep into researching how to generate leads and I came across an issue in Cuyahoga County. I called the County Clerks office who sent me to the Sheriff's office who said they don't generate Pre Foreclosure lists. They only deal in Foreclosures.

This didn't make sense to me since, from what I understand, pre foreclosures are public record and generally are listed somewhere. I know about RealtyTrac and all those list services, but to start, I was hoping to do some of the leg work myself plus I've heard that those lists are a bit out of date.

Anyone have experience in this that might be able to lend some guidance? I'm also looking in the counties surrounding west of Cleveland.

Post: Cleveland REI Meet Up Dec 23-Jan 4th?

Jon PassowPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 98
  • Votes 19

I'm going to be moving back to Cleveland in a few months and am coming back for the holidays. Is there any meet up happening during Dec 23-Jan 4th?

Post: What to do if reappraisal come up short

Jon PassowPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 98
  • Votes 19
Originally posted by @Kevin Sobilo:

@Jon Passow, don't use 100% financing for your first deal. Also, if you are a newbie, a hard money lender might not do that anyways. Part of evaluating a good deal is knowing the person executing the plan has the experience and ability to succeed.

So, start by having some skin in the game. Let's say you use $50k of your own cash and $50k financed in some way, well even if the appraisal doesn't come in where you want all you have come up short with is recouping all your cash quickly. You still didn't completely fail and you don't lose your house or anything of the sort.

You will never get rich on your first deal, the experience you get from DOING your first few deals is worth WAY more than you will earn from them in dollars and cents. So, I would measure success differently for those first deals. 

Good advice. The problem is I don't have the $50k to start. Is that where you would recommend other people's money (ie: getting a partner to front the cash or get a loan?)

Post: What to do if reappraisal come up short

Jon PassowPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 98
  • Votes 19
Originally posted by @Russell Brazil:

Chances are if youve never dealt with an appraiser before, the appraisal is going to come in much lower than you expect.

How so? 

Post: What to do if reappraisal come up short

Jon PassowPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 98
  • Votes 19

One thing that's holding me back from purchasing my first property is the fear of "what if my numbers were not correct". I know that you need to do the best due diligence/number crunching that you can before making an offer. But what if I got all my ducks in a row and the reappraisal came up short for some reason?

Say I purchase a $50,000 home, put $50,000 into it and the reappraisal only gives me $100,000 when I estimated $150,000. Since the refinance loan will only give me $70,000, that leaves me $30,000 short on my hard money loan. What does one do in a situation like this? What would you do if it was only $10K short, $5k short?

Post: Newbie Partnership Structure

Jon PassowPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 98
  • Votes 19

Wanted to bump this to see if I could get some input :)

Post: [Calc Review] Help me analyze this deal

Jon PassowPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 98
  • Votes 19

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Post: Newbie Partnership Structure

Jon PassowPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 98
  • Votes 19
Originally posted by @Rene D.:

Just curious why you decided on 60/40 versus 50/50?

I felt a little bit like, while the money investor is taking a huge risk, I'm doing all the work. Say we co-own the property for 30 years. That's 30 years of my time and he just has to do a little bit of work right up front and that's it.