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All Forum Posts by: Bonnie Griffin Kaake

Bonnie Griffin Kaake has started 5 posts and replied 595 times.

Post: Cost segregation/ bonus depreciation year of sale

Bonnie Griffin Kaake
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@Kevin Kittilsen  You cannot get a cost segregation done until you have listed the property for rent or have it occupied with a tenant. The benefits involved with cost segregation are significant and should never be overlooked. Estimates cost you nothing and the studies prepare you for additional tax benefits during your ownership years. A good engineering-based study makes doing your taxes easier for your tax professional as well. 

Post: Cost segregation study on a property from 2022

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Quote from @Michael Mackney:

Hey everyone, I'm starting to dive deep into the tax benefits of REI and I had a question regarding a cost segregation study and accelerated depreciation.

I purchased a long term property in 2022 that has been run by a property manager this last year. Hypothetically, if in 2023, I plan on turning it into a STR with self management to meet the the material participation, how would the accelerated depreciation work?

From what I understand, you obtain the accelerated depreciation benefit based on the year the rental property went into service.

For example, if it was put into service in 2022, I would achieve 100% of the benefit even though during that year I did not start self managing, rather than 80% for 2023. 

Let me know if I am understanding this properly, thanks!! 
 

Hi Michael, I can answer most all your questions and more. I keep CPAs updated on this complex area of tax laws and regulations and did an hour Continuing Professional Education (CPE) class on STRs for 253 CPAs just last week. 

First, your long-term rental was likely depreciated over 27.5 years if it is a residential rental. To change it into a STR, you will need your CPA/tax professional to do a 3115 change of accounting form to file with your taxes because all STRs must be done on 39-year depreciation. If you haven't done your 2022 taxes yet, I would recommend you do a cost segregation study on your current property for 2022 before you make the change to a STR. That will give you 100% bonus depreciation. If you can't use all of it for 2022, you can always roll it forward to following years.

Keep in mind that in order to qualify for material depreciation on your STR, your average rental number of days has to be 7 days or less. And, you must put in more hours than anyone else for managing the property. Regardless whether you meet the average of 7 days or are over that, a STR is still depreciated over 39 years. A good cost segregation study will bring your taxes up-to-date and make it easier on your tax pro. 

There are a lot more considerations for your CPA/tax professional but that would be getting too far into the weeds for your current questions. I am here if you need more guidance.  

Post: 1031 into Multi-family

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Quote from @Bhushan Shinkre:
Quote from @John Warren:

@Bhushan Shinkre congratulations on having some solid deals to trade up. I can't speak for the other markets on the list, but Chicago is a great area for multifamily. You are not likely to see 10% cap rates in good neighborhoods, but you can still achieve good returns over time. Are you using a PM company to manage these or are you self managing? That might be one of the most important questions for you to answer as you look to trade up. 

I agree, it's been a great market appreciation-wise but terrible with cash flow / cap rate. Whole reason why I'm exiting the market for greener pastures. I'd like to entertain the thought of an established STR / AirBnB in a great neighborhood in Chicago or in the city. If you have leads around something like this, would love to hear! 

Hi Bhushan, on Wednesday of this week I did a Continuing Professional Education (CPE) class for a group of 253 CPAs on STRs. We are finding that the majority of depreciation schedules are being done incorrectly on these. The options and limitations on STRs and strategy for maximizing the ROI while minimizing the tax liability and audit risk is complex. If you need guidance, I am here to help.

Post: MTR vs. STR

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@January Johnson My reference is to Federal taxation. Each state has different rules and regulations for their state taxes. Some states don't allow bonus depreciation. An investor's CPA/tax professional will know how to apply the benefits. 

Post: Going from residential to commercial multi family

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@Kamil Kaczmarczyk   You are not alone in your misunderstanding. Whether an investor has REPS status or not does not determine whether you can benefit with cost segregation. The benefits of cost segregation are available whether you are an active or passive owner of RE. Some investors who have full-time W2 jobs can benefit as well and some who own STRs and materially participate in those rentals, can use the tax benefits against their W2 income. Again, you need guidance and a no cost estimate. 

Post: Mid-term (medium-term) vs. Short-term Rental Strategy

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@Katie Miller  Personally, I prefer the MTRs/LTRs for my own investments over STRs. Less tenant turnover, less concern about HOAs that limit or block STRs.

Post: MTR vs. STR

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Everyone, please remember that MTR are for 30 days or more. NOT "more than 30 days". STRs are "less than 30 days"! Also, keep in mind that if you change from a STR to a MTR (or the other way around), your tax professional will have to do a form 3115 for the IRS to change from 39 year depreciation to 27.5 year depreciation.

Post: Going from residential to commercial multi family

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@Kamil Kaczmarczyk You received some great information above from @Benjamin Matthews above. I would add to that, as soon as you are seriously considering a property or two, get a no-cost engineering based cost segregation pre-analysis/estimate. Two properties can look equally attractive until you find out one will give you far more in tax benefits and the resulting cash flow than the other. This can have the effect of "go or no-go" decisions. 

Post: Should I Do a Cost Segregation on My Single Family Property?

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Quote from @Jillyan MacMorris:

I'm currently in a single family house hack I am about to move out of. Can I do a cost segregation on a property I didn't purchase as an investment property but plan to use that way? Does it make sense to run a cost segregation study on a $350k property? Would it be worth it, and how do I go about finding someone to complete the study?

Thank you for your time!


 Hi Jillyan, There are a few questions that you will need to answer to get a realistic no-cost estimate of what you can expect for tax benefits and added cash flow on this property. Jeff Nash listed some above. We do studies on properties with purchase prices of between $200K and $2.5 Billion. Let me know if I can help. 

Post: Winning as a Landlord with Subsidized Housing

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@LeAnn Riley Yes, there are a lot of benefits to investing in Section 8/Subsidized Housing. And, you are providing a very needed product for those who really need it. We are working with a client with over 100 units right now.