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All Forum Posts by: Bob Razler

Bob Razler has started 19 posts and replied 319 times.

Post: Asset protection without an llc

Bob RazlerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Boca Raton, FL
  • Posts 329
  • Votes 237

Hello:

There are quite a few strategies you can explore (trusts, LLP's, etc.). I would check with one of the several asset protection law firms on here that cater to REI's.

I have spoken to the team at Royal Legal Solutions (@Scott Smith) and I am sure they will give you great advice.

Bob

Post: Need Finacing stratagey help

Bob RazlerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Boca Raton, FL
  • Posts 329
  • Votes 237

Hello:

It varies by lender.  If you form a good relationship with a hard money lender you can get some very favorable terms.

I would try to find a few lenders and chat with them about your plans, etc.  Some may want to see you put more of your own money in up front.  But I am sure you can find someone who will lend on the appraisal.  

Bob

Post: Buying real estate through auctions !!! Help

Bob RazlerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Boca Raton, FL
  • Posts 329
  • Votes 237
Originally posted by @Kenyon McGrone:

Are the any lenders that would finance an auction purchase?

Hello:

I am sure you you could find lenders who would.

If you pre-identify a property you may find a lender willing to lend only on that property, up to some max.

Also, if you had a general line of credit with a lender, you could certainly draw on those funds.

However, overall it would be more complex than just your standard mortgage.

Bob

Post: Storage Unit Aisle Spacing

Bob RazlerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Boca Raton, FL
  • Posts 329
  • Votes 237

Hello @Justin Thiesse:

You want to make sure that fire truck can get in there and make the turns into the aisles (anything else but a semi will probably have a smaller turning radius).

If you look online you should be able to find the dimensions or a graphic of a fire truck turning radius:

So you want it to be able to make a 90 degree turn into your aisle and be able to get into and out of the property.

Post: Tax Lien and Superior Liens

Bob RazlerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Boca Raton, FL
  • Posts 329
  • Votes 237

Hello @Martin Sterling:

This will vary widely depending on which State you are in.

Post: Buying real estate through auctions !!! Help

Bob RazlerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Boca Raton, FL
  • Posts 329
  • Votes 237

Hello @Jordan Sinclair:

Thanks!

Post: Buying real estate through auctions !!! Help

Bob RazlerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Boca Raton, FL
  • Posts 329
  • Votes 237

Hello @Cameron Riley & @Dennis M.:

In PA, and in other states, auctions can mean different things.

There are private auctions where I just choose to sell my home in an auction scenario (I actually think this is pretty common in Australia - maybe someone from Oz and chime in on that).

Auctions can also refer to the compelled or forced sale of a property by the State/County for various reasons.

I assume you are asking about the 2 most common forced sales - foreclosures (failure to pay your mortgage, bank sues and the Sherriff sells your home to satisfy the bank) and tax sales (failure to pay your taxes and the State/County sells your home to satisfy your tax bill).

I have not participated in the PA foreclosure and tax sale business in 20 years, so things may have changed, but if someone here is more up to date maybe they can correct my answer with new info.

Both types of sales have their own areas of risk that you need to educate yourself on.

Value is a top issue - you need to know how much the home is really worth before you get into any of the below.  You will need to do the math on the various other debts to know what price you can pay to actually make a good deal.

Title is always an issue.  You need to know WHAT you are buying and what other rights it may be subject to.  Tip - look for IRS liens (bad news).  I remember plenty of railroad track embankments that were up for sale (railroads were exempt from abandonment/sales by law, but the slopes of the land on either side weren't and they always popped up - of course completely useless as an example).  I remember we also bought the maintenance shed at a cemetery once.

In foreclosures, you always need to know WHO is foreclosing and what other mortgages you are buying the home subject to. For example, is it the first mortgage who is foreclosing? Or is it a second or third mortgage. Who is bringing the action will determine which mortgage will still be on the property after you buy or which other lenders may show up to bid to cover their junior mortgages. Advanced topic - buying up debt at a discount on a home can be a great tactic to give you an advantage at a sale. Just another reason to try to establish a good relationship with bank REO departments.

Tax sales are an entirely different animal.  Back when I played in this sandbox there were 2 separate tax sales when a property was delinquent.  The first sale was subject to all mortgages, etc. (I think it was the Upset Sale).  The second sale, of the homes that didn't sell at upset were about a year later and were free and clear so that meant that the banks showed up and made sure the bids covered their debts.

Anyway, there is SOOOOOOOOO much more to it.

I would recommend the following :

1.  Start going to the auctions (if they are even still live at the County - they may be online now).

2.  Check out the PA CLE classes offered by the PA Bar, etc.  If there are any on tax sales and foreclosures, I think they are a GREAT investment of time by would-be auction investors.

3.  I would not be opposed to paying a good tax sale/foreclosure attorney for 2-4 hours of their time to give you a good briefing on the law in the area.  It won't solve all your problems, but it will give you a good idea of red flags to look for.  You don't need someone in a center city big firm.  There are lots of great experts in the county's, with small offices, who will do it for a reasonable price.

Anyway, that's my incomplete, short answer.  I am happy to share any knowledge I have if you would like to chat.

Post: GC says "You're a waste of my time"

Bob RazlerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Boca Raton, FL
  • Posts 329
  • Votes 237

Hello @Phillip S.:

Sad to say there are good and bad people in all areas of every business.  :-)

It really gets back to relationships.  Work on forging a relationship with GC's before you have deals.  Find them at your local meetups or by driving around your target area's looking for work being done on homes.  You can see how they are working (cleanliness, urgency, activity, etc.).

Find them on Facebook.  As we say with investing - once everyone knows what you are doing, deals come your way.  Post on Facebook that you are looking for a good GC.  One of your friends or family might know someone.  Also, many local areas have Facebook groups for neighborhood topics.  Find one for your target area.

You might even consider bringing something of value to them at the start.  Make referrals to them (assuming you find one you are happy with).  You might even offer to do some day labor (or what ever skill you have - sadly for me very few need a male model) on the weekends.

Finally, if you have a GC you REALLY trust, you can also consider partnering with them on a deal.  That way your interests are aligned and, if structured properly, they will have every incentive not to rip you off.

Good Luck!

Bob

Post: Fire lit in this new investor!

Bob RazlerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Boca Raton, FL
  • Posts 329
  • Votes 237

Welcome @Marcus Riddick.  You came to the right place!

Lot's of great info and a great community that will help you!

Good Luck!

Bob

Post: Cash on Cash Return Focus - what’s your goal?

Bob RazlerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Boca Raton, FL
  • Posts 329
  • Votes 237

Hello @Kirby Davis :

Keep in mind some ideas when we talk about 100% or infinite COC. It's about the final amount of cash you end up with in the deal.

Take an example - You find a SFH that, if repaired/rehabbed, should appraise at $100k. Let say it would rent for $750/month as well.

If you can get it for $50k and it needs $30k in repairs, yes you may put cash down to acquire it and rehab it. You may do all cash; you may put down 20% and borrow the rest from a private or hard money lender. But once it's repaired and rented, you finance/refi it at the $100k ARV and you pull out $80k (80/20 conventional loan). Let's assume the $80k would pay off your initial $50k + the $30k (and just to make it easy let's assume it covered closing costs, carry interest, etc.) and you end up with $0 cash in the deal. You now have an infinite return on your cash since you denominator is $0.

Now, personally, I have looked for a 12% COC but only have found 1 deal so far at that number.

I would love to see a more holistic discussion of target returns that takes into account other factors like the associated tax benefits (depreciation), growth in equity thru the rent paying your mortgage, etc.  The downside is whenever I think that way I feel like I am trying to shoehorn myself into less than good deals just to make a deal.

Bob