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All Forum Posts by: Bryan Hartlen

Bryan Hartlen has started 27 posts and replied 265 times.

Post: Homeowner's insurance for a STR

Bryan HartlenPosted
  • Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 270
  • Votes 133

Check out Proper Insurance. They have policies targeted for the STR market.

Post: Looking for Property Manager - Terre Haute, Indiana

Bryan HartlenPosted
  • Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 270
  • Votes 133

Try Hill Valley Properties / Melissa Kruykendal

Post: Apartment Cap Rate Calculation

Bryan HartlenPosted
  • Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 270
  • Votes 133

Principal & interest are not part of the expenses. Debt financing is applied after NOI is calculated.

@Alethia Hines rental arbitrage is by definition leasing (leasing from a property owner and then sub-leasing at a higher rent). Now a days, RA usually would mean signing a traditional long-term lease with rights to rent the unit out as a short term rental.

In terms of ROI, this will depend on many factors, but in general RA will almost always have the higher ROI as the upfront investment will be lower (you're not buying the property) but you won't benefit from any long-term appreciation that you would gain had you purchased. But there are always exceptions to the rule: eg if you purchased the property using 100% other people's money then your ROI would be infinite.

Post: Looking to join mastermind

Bryan HartlenPosted
  • Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 270
  • Votes 133

Hi everyone.  I'm part of a large investing community that's based in Phoenix but includes members from all over the country.  There are also several other in-person communities across the country.  The Phoenix group I belong to meets weekly in-person, and/or virtually through zoom, to mastermind.  There are 5 or 6 masterminds (F&F, Notes, Mutlifamily, etc) running at any onetime. The community is built around applying the techniques and practices taught through an online streaming education platform.  Full disclosure there is a cost for the education.  If you are interested in more info, ping me and I can explain. 

Post: Section 8 Property Manager in Birmingham, AL

Bryan HartlenPosted
  • Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 270
  • Votes 133

We're in the process of moving at least one of our SFR units to a new PM. @Melissa Nash and @Brian Tunnell I'd be interested in your recommendations also.  Thanks.

Post: Who gets to claim depreciation with multiple owners?

Bryan HartlenPosted
  • Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 270
  • Votes 133

You should specify the allocation of depreciation, income, responsibility for extra capital expenses, etc in an operating agreement or JV agreement.

Post: Does holding a 2nd place lien make me safe on a flip deal?

Bryan HartlenPosted
  • Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 270
  • Votes 133

@Jim Stanley I'll give you a 2nd opinion that is contrary to most of what you heard. I'll preface it with a statement that you should be extremely confident in the capability of the primary flipper, the rehab plan and the ARV of the subject property before ever jumping into this kind of arrangement. With that caveat / understanding:

What you are talking about is called GAP funding. I have made several GAP fund loans and have utilized GAP funders on flips of our own. It is a higher risk investment.  You get paid 2nd and you generally have little to no decision making control.

You need to make sure that you have a note AND a recorded lien. You should be provided full access to the rehab plan and costs at the front of the project (even if you have no say in the day to day decision making). You should have full access the rationale in setting the expected ARV. Your agreement needs to be explicitly clear in what happens IF extra funds are required (for any reason). You can ask for, but may not be given, full access to the running expenses on the project.

As Jay pointed out, the primary risks are the project encounters an unexpected problem that results in increased cost and/or time. The lien is really only as good as the margin in the project. If the selling price doesn't cover expenses, your note is exposed unless you were able to get a personal guarantee on the note (and the flipper actually has the resources to do so). This is typically unlikely. It is possible to foreclose from 2nd position but it's complicated, generally requires more investment in legal fees and then other investment to do ‘something' with the property. So you need to get a premium for the increased risk. I would not do it for 10% APR: we typically do ours at 8 - 12% fixed rate for the flip up to a max of 6 months.

So, it’s not necessarily a bad proposition but you need to know who you are investing with and be very confident in the deal as it is higher risk. 

Post: Investing in Alabama

Bryan HartlenPosted
  • Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 270
  • Votes 133

Hi @Christopher Lynch.  We’re in AZ and we invest in Birmingham. We typically focus on C/D class neighborhoods for Section 8 rentals and B class neighborhoods for flips. 

Post: Do I have to pay for the past owners overdue bills???

Bryan HartlenPosted
  • Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 270
  • Votes 133

Often the water company won’t let you turn the water on without clearing up any past due balances. Forces the issue assuming that you want your buyers to see all the utilities working.