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All Forum Posts by: Benjamin Ervin

Benjamin Ervin has started 7 posts and replied 163 times.

Post: My First Flip! With Numbers and Photos!

Benjamin ErvinPosted
  • Pensacola, FL
  • Posts 163
  • Votes 312
Originally posted by @Bryan Lutz:

Good job!  Where did you source your cabinets and counter tops? Ikea?

We are doing a rehab/flip now with more basic interior styling and have sourced from Lowe's and a local granite dealer.      

 Hey, Bryan.  Yes, the cabinets and white countertops are both IKEA.  I highly recommend them for the price.  Certainly more work to put them together, though.  I got the Butcher Block from our local Lumber Liquidators.

Post: My First Flip! With Numbers and Photos!

Benjamin ErvinPosted
  • Pensacola, FL
  • Posts 163
  • Votes 312
Originally posted by @Peter Clapham:

Like it. Owned a condo behind Cordova Mall that I bought new when I was stationed at NASP and sold it 10 years ago. Miss the area. What part of town is your house in?

 Hey, Peter. That area has really grown up.  Between Bubba Watson, the Studer Group, and Navy Fed, Pensacola's economy has been heading in the right direction since about that time.  This house is north of Cordova Mall, close to Scenic Highway, if you're familiar.

Post: My First Flip! With Numbers and Photos!

Benjamin ErvinPosted
  • Pensacola, FL
  • Posts 163
  • Votes 312
Originally posted by @Bernie Day:

May I ask, "how did you obtain this lead, i.e. what marketing did you use?"  What financing?  And did you retain an interior designer or was the "new Look" yours and your wife's creative tastes?  Looks great!

Bernie, of course! We have not begun marketing in any way other than communicating our goals in REI and criterion for leads to agents and wholesalers in the area. I suspect we will have to develop a marketing plan moving forward as deals are scarce. Our idea was to get one under our belt to put a little weight behind our name and show the real players in the area that we are serious, and here to stay.

Financing has been addressed, but this thread is getting pretty big so I'll restate.  We put together a sample deal package after analyzing a number of leads and took it to literally the only person in my life I knew was an investor.  And I use that term loosely.  He is really more of a person I knew had strong personal finance practices his entire life.  I approached him with the intention of getting feedback on my plan and he actually decided he wanted to be the one to get us started.

In terms of the design, this was ALL my wife.  I have an okay eye for this stuff, but her taste is very good.  I've always said the only difference between her and Joanna Gaines is resources and a camera crew!  She thinks that is crazy, but I truly do believe she gives us a competitive advantage with her ability to find excellent value for materials that people love.

Post: My First Flip! With Numbers and Photos!

Benjamin ErvinPosted
  • Pensacola, FL
  • Posts 163
  • Votes 312
Originally posted by @Savannah Coyle:

Hi Ben,

Great job on the rehab! My husband and I just finished our first remodel a few months ago as well. It's a rewarding process. Yours definitely is in a higher class than ours is as far as quality, although in our defense ours was a BRRR rather than a flip and we now have it fully rented out.

Do you find that rehabbing properties like this one that require more cosmetic appeal to be a good way to go? Our property required quite a bit of contracting work in the way of plumbing, electrical, and roofing. 

Thanks for sharing!

Savannah

Hi, Savannah.  Congratulations on taking down your first deal!

As far as your question goes, I don't really have a solid data point to say yes or no until the house sells.  Even then, I would submit there should be a pattern of success over a significant enough period of time to really determine whether or not this business model works.  My only comment would be that we did not intend to sacrifice critical functional needs the property had in favor of using more funds in the cosmetic areas.  I believe that would be a recipe for disaster long term in a business where your name is everything. 

Post: My First Flip! With Numbers and Photos!

Benjamin ErvinPosted
  • Pensacola, FL
  • Posts 163
  • Votes 312
Originally posted by @Imelda Interino:

Great job on rehab!! Just curious how you got the profit of $51K+ after I calculated your acquisition cost, plus rehab and commission fees you're not really gonna get a lot from $175K sale price.  I am a Realtor and investor and you may have also missed the closing cost fees, good luck and hope you can sell it more than $175K.

 Imelda, if you look at my original post, you can see I have already subtracted $10,500 (assuming $175,000 sale price) for commissions in getting my final projected figure.  You'll also notice my final projected figure does not say $51K+, as you've stated, but rather it reads like this:

$51,810 – Taxes & Any Additional Selling Costs

Post: My First Flip! With Numbers and Photos!

Benjamin ErvinPosted
  • Pensacola, FL
  • Posts 163
  • Votes 312
Originally posted by @Yehuda Smith:

@Benjamin Ervin 

Firstly great job. Did you leave the popcorn ceiling in place and just cover it with the boards?

 Yehuda, we actually began removing the popcorn with the intention of doing a knockdown texture.  But we felt the quotes we received were a little high to apply the knockdown when considering it wouldn't be a feature item.  For about the same cost (with our labor though, of course), we now have a plank ceiling that has gotten REALLY good feedback from folks who have viewed the house. 

Post: My First Flip! With Numbers and Photos!

Benjamin ErvinPosted
  • Pensacola, FL
  • Posts 163
  • Votes 312
Originally posted by @Rose Walters:

Congratulations!! You did a super job for your first! Did you most of the work yourself? Continued success.

My group and I are doing fix and flip in Jacksonville, FL, and we are on our 4th, so far so good. Like someone else mentioned, there is more funding than properties that meet our criteria. Competition is fierce, but that's what make it exciting for us.  

 Thanks, Rose.  We did do a good bit of the work ourselves.

Jax certainly interests me as a market for flips.  My brother lives in Jax and is considering doing a house hack when his current lease is up.

Post: My First Flip! With Numbers and Photos!

Benjamin ErvinPosted
  • Pensacola, FL
  • Posts 163
  • Votes 312
Originally posted by @Nick Ziegelmann:

This is an amazing first flip Ben! Looks incredible! I currently reside out in Tallahassee, FL and am wanting to get into the same business as flipping houses and what not, but I’m not sure where to start?

 Nick, I am still pretty green but my suggestion to you would be to start educating yourself.  This means doing market research, learning the terminology/language, listening/reading to podcasts/books, etc.  There is an incredible amount of FREE information at your disposal.  Take advantage of that and put the horse before the cart.

Post: My First Flip! With Numbers and Photos!

Benjamin ErvinPosted
  • Pensacola, FL
  • Posts 163
  • Votes 312
Originally posted by @Logan Turner:

Benjamin Ervin
Great job on the rehab. Very nice looking.

A few things to consider:

Plan out whether it will be a flip or BRRR at the beginning. This would be a terrible rental. Too nice and you would be disappointed after wear and tear on it. Materials should be durable not pretty (laminate vs tile/vinyl planks). It shouldn't be the prettiest house in the neighborhood.

Financing: people are referring to hard money lenders. Not fixed Fannie Mae loan.

Also consider local credit unions. Dodd frank acts being repealed will help them lend to people they have a relationship with.

Logan, thank you for your input.  We absolutely agree this would be a terrible rental based on the design choices we've made.  In fact, the numbers work as a rental, but practically speaking the materials do not.  We understood this when making the choices we did. 

We intend to use the BRRR method in the future, but until we can generate revenue to use for cash reserves, I prefer to not to hold any properties. That will absolutely change soon.

Understand the financing terminology.  That rolled over my head while reading/responding, so thanks for the clarification.

I am already discussing cash out refi options with my local credit union.  I've banked with them since I was 14 and opened my first checking account, so I have built a pretty good level of rapport already considering my lack of experience. 

Post: My First Flip! With Numbers and Photos!

Benjamin ErvinPosted
  • Pensacola, FL
  • Posts 163
  • Votes 312
Originally posted by @Lisa O.:

I'm in Central Florida and we can't flip unless we have a general contractor license, even as the owner. There's nothing prohibiting you there from doing it just as the owner? 

If/when you do this again, I would suggest using a flat fee listing company that can get your property on MLS for a couple hundred dollars and offer the buyer's agent their 2 or 3% cut. I've had success selling two former homes offering only 2% (higher $$ amount) bc if a buyer sees it on realtor.com or zillow, they'll make their agent show it to them and agent will just have to settle for 2%.

 Hi, Lisa.  The answer to your question is no, we are not required to have a GC license in order to flip homes purchased under our name.

Thank you for the suggestion.  My wife is currently in the process of getting her Real Estate license, so we intend to avoid those costs moving forward.  Regardless, I feel like the realtor we've used (this will now be our second transaction with her) has added a lot of value for us throughout this process.  Certainly far more than the 3% we are paying for her service.  That is my opinion, of course.