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All Forum Posts by: Ben Boru

Ben Boru has started 11 posts and replied 43 times.

Post: Negotiating the bank down?...

Ben BoruPosted
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Some people in this this thread are incorrect about probate. But I appreciate everyone's input GREATLY 

Post: Negotiating the bank down?...

Ben BoruPosted
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Quote from @Minna Reid:
Quote from @Marty Boardman:
Quote from @Ben Boru:
Quote from @Minna Reid:

Foreclosure process is very state specific. What state is it? 

What's the home worth?

No, they wont eliminate their fees and interest, but if the homes debts exceed its value you may pursue a short sale. If its in process they may move that fc date for you. When is the fc date?


 Michigan. Auction in a couple weeks. It's close to short sale territory. Homeowner is ready to work I'm going to try to have them push that date back tomorrow. 

A couple of weeks is more than enough time to get the payoff and/or reinstatement, get a title policy and close the deal before the auction.

And as others have stated, NO the bank will not negotiate late penalties/interest.

 @Marty Boardman I've been working short sales for 15 years. Banks ABSOLUTELY 100% negotiate mortgage debts when property debts exceed value. That's the whole point of a short sale. 

The OP indicated this was short sale territory. So unless someone wants to clear all these debts as they are and pay more than the property is worth, paying off the loan is pointless. Sounds like the OP is unwilling to do that anyway 

Certainly if the paying off all the debts with no discount is an option, they can easily do that and close anytime, however that is not the case per the OP ( Or the impression I got anyway).

The foreclosure is the first problem to solve. Probate can also be handled after. But unless a legal owner can sign a P&S ASAP, this whole deal is going to die. However, even without the P&S, it is worthwhile to get an authorization to talk to the lender to try to buy time with a workout.


 It would for sure be a short sale if my market wasn't swimming with sharks. But it probably isn't a short sale unfortunately. And houses are so scarce I should probably take it how I can get it and clear 20k if I'm tactful 

Post: Negotiating the bank down?...

Ben BoruPosted
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Quote from @Randall Alan:
Quote from @Ben Boru:
Quote from @Randall Alan:
Quote from @Ben Boru:
Quote from @Marty Boardman:
Quote from @Ben Boru:
Quote from @Minna Reid:

Foreclosure process is very state specific. What state is it? 

What's the home worth?

No, they wont eliminate their fees and interest, but if the homes debts exceed its value you may pursue a short sale. If its in process they may move that fc date for you. When is the fc date?


 Michigan. Auction in a couple weeks. It's close to short sale territory. Homeowner is ready to work I'm going to try to have them push that date back tomorrow. 

A couple of weeks is more than enough time to get the payoff and/or reinstatement, get a title policy and close the deal before the auction.

And as others have stated, NO the bank will not negotiate late penalties/interest.
Deed is still in his dads name. Probate attorney I used for my mother is calling me at 3pm. 😬 Homeowner wasn't cooperative but now is finally fully on board. 

 That’s not good, You are not going to be able to do ANYTHING with that until it goes through probate.  The family technically doesn’t own the property now… the estate does - which has to be administered through the courts.  The family, through the lawyer, could possibly catch up the overdue payments to stave off the foreclosure, but  otherwise probate is likely going to come first before anything else.  

Randy 

I have a probate attorney calling me in an hour. I'm thinking the executor, the son, can sign a quit deed and get it into his name. We will see. Dad has been dead for 10 years. 

If the estate has been probated, yes.  If the estate hasn't been through probate the son has no rights to the property.  You have to initiate probate and get letters of administration to be able to act on the affairs of the decedent.  "Executor" gets thrown around loosely.  It will come down to whether the estate was ACTUALLY probated.  If not, you are going to be stuck.  Given the value of any property these days, it will almost certainly have to be formally probated.  Takes thousands of dollars, and months of time.  Probably a minimum of 3-6 months.  The last one I was involved with took 2 years... it was a big estate.  But it takes 2 months where I live just to get on the docket of a probate judge.

Wish you the best!

Randy

How could it not be probated for 10 years? Wouldn't the state automatically do that? Guess we will see

Post: Negotiating the bank down?...

Ben BoruPosted
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Quote from @Randall Alan:
Quote from @Ben Boru:
Quote from @Marty Boardman:
Quote from @Ben Boru:
Quote from @Minna Reid:

Foreclosure process is very state specific. What state is it? 

What's the home worth?

No, they wont eliminate their fees and interest, but if the homes debts exceed its value you may pursue a short sale. If its in process they may move that fc date for you. When is the fc date?


 Michigan. Auction in a couple weeks. It's close to short sale territory. Homeowner is ready to work I'm going to try to have them push that date back tomorrow. 

A couple of weeks is more than enough time to get the payoff and/or reinstatement, get a title policy and close the deal before the auction.

And as others have stated, NO the bank will not negotiate late penalties/interest.
Deed is still in his dads name. Probate attorney I used for my mother is calling me at 3pm. 😬 Homeowner wasn't cooperative but now is finally fully on board. 

 That’s not good, You are not going to be able to do ANYTHING with that until it goes through probate.  The family technically doesn’t own the property now… the estate does - which has to be administered through the courts.  The family, through the lawyer, could possibly catch up the overdue payments to stave off the foreclosure, but  otherwise probate is likely going to come first before anything else.  

Randy 

I have a probate attorney calling me in an hour. I'm thinking the executor, the son, can sign a quit deed and get it into his name. We will see. Dad has been dead for 10 years. 

Post: Negotiating the bank down?...

Ben BoruPosted
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Quote from @Marty Boardman:
Quote from @Ben Boru:
Quote from @Minna Reid:

Foreclosure process is very state specific. What state is it? 

What's the home worth?

No, they wont eliminate their fees and interest, but if the homes debts exceed its value you may pursue a short sale. If its in process they may move that fc date for you. When is the fc date?


 Michigan. Auction in a couple weeks. It's close to short sale territory. Homeowner is ready to work I'm going to try to have them push that date back tomorrow. 

A couple of weeks is more than enough time to get the payoff and/or reinstatement, get a title policy and close the deal before the auction.

And as others have stated, NO the bank will not negotiate late penalties/interest.
Deed is still in his dads name. Probate attorney I used for my mother is calling me at 3pm. 😬 Homeowner wasn't cooperative but now is finally fully on board. 

Post: Negotiating the bank down?...

Ben BoruPosted
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 7
Quote from @Minna Reid:

Foreclosure process is very state specific. What state is it? 

What's the home worth?

No, they wont eliminate their fees and interest, but if the homes debts exceed its value you may pursue a short sale. If its in process they may move that fc date for you. When is the fc date?


 Michigan. Auction in a couple weeks. It's close to short sale territory. Homeowner is ready to work I'm going to try to have them push that date back tomorrow. 

Post: Negotiating the bank down?...

Ben BoruPosted
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Here is a mortgage statement from a homeowner that is being foreclosed on. He wants to sell to me. Can I negotiate some of the interest and late fees down from the bank? And what is the best way to approach that conversation? Thank you for any help!

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If anyone knows the best way to get the bank to postpone the auction that is also helpful. But even if I can't close until after the auction they are still within that 6 month period so my purchase would take precedence correct?

Are banks willing to drop the fees sometimes to get the property sold? 

Post: Getting an auction postponed?

Ben BoruPosted
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I have someone wanting to sell me his house. Auction in 2 weeks. Deed still in his dads name. How can I get the auction postponed so I can wrap this deal up? 

What do I have to pay the bank to pay off this property? $84197 or 117980?