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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 18 posts and replied 30 times.

Post: Sewer cleanout installation cost (2023)

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  • Homeowner
  • Kansas City MO
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 8
Quote from @Rob Cleary:

Seems reasonable to me, even though this isn’t my market.  Equipment, knowledge and time cost money.  If you have all three of those then you should have done it yourself.  As I type this the more reasonable it seams and I see they saddled it properly.  

Good to know. No I didn’t have the equipment or the knowledge. 

Post: Sewer cleanout installation cost (2023)

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  • Homeowner
  • Kansas City MO
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 8
Quote from @Scott E.:

If you are working with a big commercial reputable plumbing company, that price sounds exactly right.

Another route would have been to pay 2 day laborers each $20 an hour to dig the hole. They would have that hole hand dug in 3 hours tops. There's $120 in labor. I'd just throw them $100 each.

Now you need to buy the clean outs. Material cost is not much, probably $200 at the most.

Last pay a plumber $150/hr to install the clean outs. Should take them 2-3 hours. There's $450.

$200 + $200 + $450 = $850.

 Thanks - this is helpful in calculating the premium I paid for the management of work. 

Post: Sewer cleanout installation cost (2023)

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  • Homeowner
  • Kansas City MO
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 8
Quote from @Andrew S.:

I assume that there was a reason why the clean out had to be added?  Was there a clogged sewer that had to be investigated first?  Maybe that took a lot of effort?  Also, how accessible is/was that particular location to bring in the digging equipment?  Or was that ditch hand-dug?  If it was hand-dug, the price may be ok.  If there is easy access for equipment it is probably on the high side.  I paid less than $1000 for a similar repair, about a year ago.

Did you get some detail on the invoice, or just the bottom line?

Thanks - it was a single line invoice, will try to get details.  Yes, the sewer was clogged.

Post: Sewer cleanout installation cost (2023)

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  • Homeowner
  • Kansas City MO
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 8

what’s the installation cost of sewer cleanout (in Kansas City but other low cost cities are fine too)?  Someone else that I trust booked the contractor and I’m presented with a bill of $2450.  I saw the pictures of the work done but it does not look like a $2450 worth of work… I believe the entire work took 3 hrs at max.   Am I being overcharged? 

Post: Pet Policies (changes in new environment)

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  • Homeowner
  • Kansas City MO
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 8

@Tj Hock thanks for sharing.  Question on the base rent increase - is that on top of the monthly pet fee?  If the market rent of my unit is $2400, I can charge up to $360/mo? That sounds fantastic... 

Post: Tell Us Your Real Estate Horror Story

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  • Homeowner
  • Kansas City MO
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 8
Quote from @Leo R.:

@Ted Kaasch Long story, but a good one:

Back when I was a relatively inexperienced investor, I got a 2 am phone call from a tenant. The finished basement (which included bedrooms their children were occupying) was flooded with 6 inches of water! Worst of all, it was ground water--coming up from underneath the slab, and there was no easy way to stop the flooding.

Adding insult to injury was the fact that this was the third time in six months the house had flooded. After the first flood, I dug some French drains around the exterior of the house. After the second flood, I dug out a standard-size sump and installed a pump in the basement. No dice. Clearly, I needed to pull out the big guns.

Every bone in my body wanted to sell the house, sell all of my properties, and quit RE investing. The next several months were extremely stressful; the tenants left, I watched my bank account get lower by the day, and I spent every waking hour trying to figure out a solution. ...for weeks, I thought I was headed for bankruptcy, and I assumed the entire house would need to be razed (who would buy a house that has regular, unpreventable floods?). Plenty of people made fun of me for this debacle... It was one of the most demoralizing experiences of my life.

I hired a hydrologist who helped me understand how water moves underground, and potential solutions (best few hundred bucks I’ve ever spent). Unfortunately, none of the solutions he proposed were easy.

I stripped the basement of its finishings, jackhammered through the slab, and dug three sections; one was about 15x5, another about 12x5, and one about 20x5. All of them were dug about 4.5’ deep. Worst of all, the basement had no exterior door, which meant that approx. 30-40 tons of water-logged clay had to be removed by hand, one bucket at a time, through a window! (I put my gym membership on hold that winter).

Then, I installed industrial-grade perforated pipe that was roughly 3’ diameter (the type of thing you might see kids crawling through at a playground), and three industrial-grade sump basins, each of which were 65+ gallons (large enough for a full-grown adult to crawl into). The pipe and basins had to be sourced from a company that provides supplies for city infrastructure (this ain’t stuff you can pick up at Home Depot). I added an industrial grade pump to each of the three basins, each of which I plumbed separately.

Then, I back-filled everything with sewer rock (which, again, had to be brought in by hand, one bucket at a time, through a window), and then I re-poured the slab and re-finished the basement.

THEN, I dug a pit along the exterior of the house: 10’ x 20’, and about 10’ deep. Again, all dug by hand (this was back when I had no money, and couldn’t pay for an excavator). Added more industrial-grade perf pipe, and a vertical access pipe so I could drop in another pump if needed. Backfilled with another truck load of sewer rock.

As luck would have it, that Spring was the wettest on record in our City—rain, rain, rain. Every day, I held my breath waiting for the new tenants to call me saying the house was flooding (talk about anxiety!). ….aaaand….nothing.

Many years later, and the basement has remained bone dry (knock on wood).

Even more astounding—I got a call from a neighbor who owns a house across the street, about 50-75 yards away. He told me he’s owned his house since the 1970s, and that his unfinished basement has flooded almost every Spring since he bought the place…until, you guessed it. He’s never had a flood since I finished my little project…So, it seems that my absurd drainage system is not only draining everything under my house, it’s also draining the entire surrounding area!

Today, the “flood house” is the best cashflowing property in my portfolio (the cashflow potential is a major reason I put in so much effort to fixing the problem).

Every time I hear someone mention REI as a "passive" form of investing, I smile and think back to when I was knee-deep in mud, excavating truckloads of clay by hand, one bucket at a time through a basement window. "Passive" lol.

 Such an inspiring story! I’ve had 2 big water damage issues in the first year of buying a house (not nearly as bad as this) - it was extremely stressful to fix but now it’s cash flowing ok. 

Post: Termite discovered during inspection. Wasn’t in seller disclosure

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  • Homeowner
  • Kansas City MO
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 8

Termite infestation was not in sellers disclosure but was discovered during the inspection. Seller agreed to treat, but I feel like I should ask to lower the sales price because I will have to disclose previous termite problem when I sell this house eventually, not to mention ongoing warranty costs and higher insurance premiums. Thoughts? 

Post: KCMO - non-conforming to bedroom requirement

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  • Homeowner
  • Kansas City MO
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 8

the property I’m interested in buying has a 8x9 room with very large windows on the main floor . Based on the Jackson County’a building code, I believe it meets all the requirements of a bedroom except for the closet requirement. the room is 72 sqft so I won’t be able to build a closet on the ground (otherwise it won’t be 70 sqft)… if I mount a closet on the wall, would it meet the requirement of a bedroom I.e. would the County change the public record? 

Post: KCMO convert non-conforming room to a bedroom

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  • Homeowner
  • Kansas City MO
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 8

the property I’m interested in buying has a 8x9 room with very large windows on the main floor .  Based on the Jackson County’a building code, I believe it meets all the requirements of a bedroom except for the closet requirement.   the room is 72 sqft so I won’t be able to build a closet on the ground (otherwise it won’t be 70 sqft)… if I mount a closet on the wall, would it meet the requirement of a bedroom I.e. would the County change the public record? 

Post: Canadian citizen in the US, looking to buy a house in Montreal

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  • Homeowner
  • Kansas City MO
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 8

I'm a Canadian citizen living & working in the US on work visa right now.  I'm interested in buying a property in Montreal, as a rental property first, and eventually converting into a primary residence when my US work visa expires and I return to Canada.   

How do I go about finding a Montreal based realtor who works with Canadian non-residents?   

Also, it seems like banks provider financing based on the US employment and US income & asset proof, but can I get an investment loan (not a primary residence mortgage loan)? 

Thanks!