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All Forum Posts by: Ashley Zhang

Ashley Zhang has started 41 posts and replied 190 times.

Post: My personal Journey with BP and Subto community

Ashley ZhangPosted
  • Investor
  • colorado
  • Posts 195
  • Votes 23

Hi all, recently, I saw many people ask about Pace's subto program. Since I am a BP pro and a paid member of the subto community, I would like to share my honest opinion to help others on their journey.

We can all agree there is no "one size fits all." same as both BP and Subto communities. I am active in both places because when I couldn't find the answer in Subto, I would seek solutions from BP, and vice versa. If BP is a blue chip, then Subto will be a growing new star. They both have their pro and cons.

I started with the BP forum after my husband lost his job twice during my pregnancy. It became my realization that I needed to find passive income so I would not have to rely on my paycheck to pay the bills. After days of research, I found Bigger Pocket, a forum where you can find answers to any question. I joined pro members to watch Brandon Turner and David Greene's education videos on analyzing the deals. I bought almost all the BP-published books to read during my lunch break. My favorite part is the podcast. I listened to the podcast diligently from episode one. I am so excited to listen to every new episode. As David Greene and Brandon Turner said, I need to put more tools into my toolbelt, which gave me confidence.

Fast forward to the fall of 2022, when the interest rate skyrocketed, I couldn't find any property cash flow under the high interest. I met a lender who referred me to Pace's subto program, a creative way to acquire property with low monthly payments and also generate cash flow. Although it's called Subto, the subto topic is only a portion of the subjects he taught. he also taught us sales skills, lending, equipping agents with subto knowledge, acquiring a business, and transaction coordinating paperwork. His ultimate goal is to create a win-win situation in which everyone will be paid for their hard work. Subto's niche focuses on teamwork, like BP, working as a team member to accomplish the same goal. Both community leaders injected so much funding and energy to help people succeed in real estate investing.

The difference between BP and Subto is they are structured differently. BP is a much bigger and more mature forum that includes many sub-forums. David and Robert are constantly putting out quality content and setting up meetups. They invited successful individuals to talk about their business journey. It's one of the few real estate podcasts out there that keeps up with their high standard. However, I need a closer guidance from the leader, who can point out what I did right or wrong. Whereas Subto is a much smaller community, I can reach out to the leaders with a quick turnaround. However, since subto is growing dramatically, this could be the same as BP.

I am a number person, and I hate writing. However, I decided to share my thoughts so others could decide if this is something for you. Both communities are growing so fast that I must work REALLY hard to keep up. Since I entered the real estate investing world, I have looked at things differently. I have no skill ceiling anymore and can accomplish much more than at my W2 job. If you want to make a difference in your and others' lives, I recommend both communities equally.

Quote from @Joe S.:
Quote from @Ashley Zhang:

AJ. I underwrite a lot of deals for others, including creative deals, such as subto, seller financing..the first of all, you do need to know if that's cahs flow @ 6% under their asking price.

Is this a service you provide?

no. I am in an investor group, I helped others, in return they helped me with my questions. 

Post: My personal Journey with Subto community

Ashley ZhangPosted
  • Investor
  • colorado
  • Posts 195
  • Votes 23

Hi all, recently, I saw many people ask about Pace's subto program. Since I am a BP pro and in the subto community, I would like to share my honest opinion, and you will be the judge.

I am sharing some of my journey that I never shared before. Between 2017 and 2019, my husband constantly lost his job while I was pregnant twice with my first and second child. Luckily, I am a licensed public accountant, and my job could pay the bill. However, we were break-even every month, and no extra was left; we lived paycheck to paycheck. My company didn't provide paid maternity leave, so I have saved all my PTO just for the maternity leave. While others can take a long time off before the delivery and after, I couldn't afford it. I was exhausted every day, going to work and returning home. From then, I started looking for opportunities to get me out of the rat racing W2 job. I tried to buy commercial property with a conventional loan. I joined commercial property other guru programs, but at the end of the day, I realized that I couldn't do it because I needed a team to help me with the acquisition, underwriting, negotiating the deals, raising funds, and managing it, plus, I reaching out to many others for help and advice but no one wanted to Jv with a newbie. In the end, I was burned out and accomplished nothing.
Fast forward to the end of 2022, I met a lender who referred me to Pace's subto program, and I immediately built up a strong resistance; he wanted to sell me something! He said the value I would get from the pogrom was worth so much more than I paid it for. I can join the free FB group, watch the free videos, and decide. I watched Pace's free videos, which make perfect sense on how to buy properties with subto and seller financing in the current economy, even when the interest rate is low. After wandering in his free group for a couple of months, I decided to take a leap, joining his official Subto group.

These are what I learned from the group, also called Community:
1. It's called Subto, but the topic on subto is only 20% of the subjects he taught. he also taught us sales skills, lending, equipping agents with subto knowledge, acquiring business, and transaction coordinating paperwork. His ultimate goal is to create a win-win situation in which everyone will be paid for their hard work.
2. Pace is a man full of ideas and energy. He did many long zooms that I have not heard of anyone doing. He often did 4 + hours of long zooms to break down all the ideas and knowledge so others could understand. He and his leader put out so many zooms daily; if you would sit in all the zooms, that would be a full-time job. That is why you need to prioritize your main goal. I will touch on this again later.
3. Most importantly, he created a group, a community where everyone is bonded to each other, an ultimate trust that I feel comfortable working with others. For example, if I want to JV with someone on a property hundreds of miles away, I can easily find my team from subto. This strategy was also mentioned in David Greene's Long-distance investing book. Back then, when I read that book, I felt finding a team was almost impossible for me. Now, it seems so easy. The key is to be in the right group, in which you can TRUST others. I am an accountant and have a very low-risk tolerance. But subto community minimizes the risk to a tolerable level for me. Although there are still risks here, our goal in this community is to be a go-giver to others, not a go-getter.
4. The group is full of positive energy. If you need ANY help, there is someone there for you. After the hurricane, many people volunteered to check on others' properties. When I started, many leaders and other students offered to solve my problems, showing me how to accomplish my tasks.
5. There are drawbacks to what Pace taught, too. Where there is a business or real estate topic, Pace will teach you how to do it. I didnt set my laser focus at the beginning; instead, I had a shining object syndrome. I want to learn all of them. After a few months, I realized if I dont focus and start on one thing, I will not make progress. Underwriting commercial properties is what I love to do, and I need to prioritize it. Anyone who reads this should prioritize their focus as well.
6. very last. Not many people mentioned. Pace, Veena Jetti, Jerry Norton, and Brandon Turner hosted a special event to support Tim Ballard, the hero from the Sound of the Silence, to raise 500k for the Rescue fund. He constantly contributes his money back to the community to help others grow.

I am a number person, and I hate writing. However, I decided to share my thoughts so others could decide if this is something for you. This community is growing so fast that I must work REALLY hard to keep up. Since joining this community, I have looked at things differently. I have no skill ceiling anymore and can accomplish much more than at my W2 job. If you want to make a difference in your and others' lives, this will be the right place for you. Again, you will be the judge.

AJ. I underwrite a lot of deals for others, including creative deals, such as subto, seller financing..the first of all, you do need to know if that's cahs flow @ 6% under their asking price.

Post: I need to find the kid on BP podcast 789, 17 yr-old

Ashley ZhangPosted
  • Investor
  • colorado
  • Posts 195
  • Votes 23

hi all, I am listening the podcast #789, a kid 17 year-old who lost his parent when he was 14. I need to connect to him. I can help him. thank you all!! 

Post: Markets good for investment/cash flow in 2022

Ashley ZhangPosted
  • Investor
  • colorado
  • Posts 195
  • Votes 23
Quote from @Leslie Monroy:

Hi all! Would love input on markets good for investment right now in 2022.  Looking to invest in a rental property with cash flow.  Thanks!


 What a good topic. You asked the question for me. Have you decided yet?

Post: Gobundance and their M1 program

Ashley ZhangPosted
  • Investor
  • colorado
  • Posts 195
  • Votes 23
Quote from @Zach Woods:
Quote from @Ashley Zhang:

I reached out to them and was told the price will be increased to 1700 ish. Can anyone who joined Emerge recently share some insights? thanks! 

Hey Ashley- I joined Emerge about 4 weeks ago. I can honestly tell you it's one of the best decisions I've ever made. I've found a ton of incredible connections and filled my phone book with people who are genuinely willing to help. Being surrounded by people who are passionate about life, their business, and helping others is both refreshing and inspiring. Happy to help answer more questions if you have them. ZW

@Ashley Zhang

 @Zach Woods Glad to hear that. I went ahead and joined it too, and I only have one class so far. I haven't seen any dramatic change so far in myself, but I belive there will be. what's the biggest take away from joining teh group, except the networking piece? Thank you so much! 

Post: Gobundance and their M1 program

Ashley ZhangPosted
  • Investor
  • colorado
  • Posts 195
  • Votes 23

I reached out to them and was told the price will be increased to 1700 ish. Can anyone who joined Emerge recently share some insights? thanks! 

Post: What mastermind course are you thinking?

Ashley ZhangPosted
  • Investor
  • colorado
  • Posts 195
  • Votes 23
Quote from @Chris Seveney:

@Nick Carozza

I recently joined gobundance and so far it’s been great

Chris, isn't it has requirement how much assets one needs to have. also, is that only for guys? thank you! 

Post: need suggestion how to handle this property

Ashley ZhangPosted
  • Investor
  • colorado
  • Posts 195
  • Votes 23

hi everyone, need some suggestions. I am considering to buy a property, 5 acres with a crappy house on it. its best use will be subdivide or simple split of the lot, sell the lot or build multifamily on the land. it's asking for 345k. I have 20% to put down payment, but I will not have any funding to do any of those improvements I want to. whats the best option for to finance the current property and construction? I appreciate ya'll suggestions and help!