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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 18 posts and replied 1514 times.

Post: issues with property management and concerns

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There is an initial breaking in period when you buy a new property or get a new tenant. It should level off after a while. But there are some PMs who find it easier to just send out repair men every time and charge you rather than deal with the tenants. Its a common problem with OOS investing. Just wait until your first turn quote!!

Post: Dealing with may-saying A__hole relatives

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I am certainly not anti real estate. But I do question giving up being a doctor to be a full time real estate investor. You spent a lot of time, energy and money to become an MD. Why do you want to give that up now? You can certainly be an investor and doctor at the same time. I have a cousin who is a MD and on the side has bought up a number of assisted living homes. He buys SFRs and converts them to assisted living, leases them out to a partner who runs the care facility. Its been hugely lucrative for him and he is still a doctor. Thats just one example. Or you can take your high income and invest in rentals, syndications, development projects etc etc. All will be much easier for you with a high predictable stable income and access to lots of credit. You certainly dont want to join the ranks of broke wholesalers and people trying eke out $100 per door do you?

Post: Turnkey company recommendations?

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I think the time for turnkeys is over. The market is too hot and if you add on TK premiums there is very little  chance for you to turn a profit. Back in 2010-2015 the prices allowed TK companies to acquire, rehab and mark up properties and still leave enough meat on the bone for a buyer. Now I see absurd things like less than 1% rent ratios on midwest C class properties, even duplexes! There is NO WAY you can turn a profit on those properties at those prices. At best you will eke out a 4% return with tons of stress along the way. Better buy some index funds and forget about it.

Post: Wells Fargo Abruptly Closes Lines of Credit - The End Is Near

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Originally posted by @Account Closed:

Watch for Black Swans: Bank Bail-ins, sudden change of U.S. presidency (which is what I predict in October-November  2021 timeframe), China invading Taiwan (not this year), proof Covid was developed in China as a BioWeapon, not naturally occuring, a shipping container shortage, (already happening), a computer chip shortage (already happening), 8,000,000 possible foreclosures, the ending of the foreclosure moratorium, the ending of the eviction moratorium and whatever BLM & Antifa have planned (riots, etc). One of those or one we haven't seen before could send it all crashing down. It happens like clock work and it's always the one you don't expect. 


What about alien invasion? You left out that one! After all we now know UFOs are real!

Post: Landlord lost $60,000 in rent, Tenant walks away

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60K in rent over 14 months works out to $4285/month! Thats an A class property in any market. Wouldn't any reasonable person expect high income, high credit and clean background check to rent that out? I mean this isn't some D class property in the hood right? Something doesnt smell right in this story. 

Post: Cash but no time… where to start?

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Its hard to say without knowing your total financial picture. How much risk do you want to take? How much liquidity do you need? Whats the time frame of the investment? I know people hate taxes but if you are clearing $150 to $200K , that's probably not even all profit. Even on $100K of profit capital gains is $15K. Not peanuts but not worth getting into a marginal investment to save $15K and lose $50K! 

Why are you selling the rental? If its appreciated that's good right? What would it cash flow if you paid off the loan? How long more to payoff? What if you take your excess cash and pay it off faster? Or do you just not want to be a landlord anymore? In that case why buy another rental at all?

Lots of questions for you to think about..

Post: Should I kick them out at the end of the lease???

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Originally posted by @Bruce Woodruff:
Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Originally posted by @Bruce Woodruff:
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

Not at all. Are all business people jerks? Hardly. It's merely a reality. You either treat a business like a business or you have a poorly run business. With the accompanying problems.....

Ok. Lets put this in terms that might resonate with you. You borrow money from a bank. When you do you show your income etc. You start making payments on the loan. Now you lose your job. Nevertheless you continue to pay the mortgage. The bank, being a business, decides that you are now a risk and calls the loan. So even though you never missed a payment or did anything wrong you now lose the house because you cant raise the cash to pay it back. Just business right? Banks avoiding a future problem..right? 

Yes, you're right.....but that is not a proper analogy. The legal agreement between you and the bank is quite a bit different than that which a landlord and tenant sign. Also for one landlord with one tenant, it is a sounder business practice than that of a huge corporate bank with millions of 'tenants'.....

EXACTLY! The legal agreement between you and the bank is different. Why do you think that is? Out of the goodness of their hearts? Or because government stepped in and protected you as a borrower, not to mention took the loan off the banks books in the first place? Yet when governments step in to interfere in LL/Tenant contracts via things like eviction bans (which BTW I think is a bad idea) people on BP are up in arms! But I do believe tenants deserve protection from arbitrary eviction based on "potential future problems". Non payment is another issue. Just like banks can foreclose, landlords can evict. In this case the tenant is paying the agreed upon rent and repairs and adhering to the contract. 

Now the legal agreement is a lease and it only lasts one year. So in principle the LL can non renew. The better analogy there is how insurance companies screw you by cancelling your policy for arbitrary reasons even though you have paid all the premiums. Thats pretty crappy behavior also but there is no law against it. Doesn't make it right though. 

Post: Should I kick them out at the end of the lease???

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Originally posted by @Bruce Woodruff:
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

Not at all. Are all business people jerks? Hardly. It's merely a reality. You either treat a business like a business or you have a poorly run business. With the accompanying problems.....

Ok. Lets put this in terms that might resonate with you. You borrow money from a bank. When you do you show your income etc. You start making payments on the loan. Now you lose your job. Nevertheless you continue to pay the mortgage. The bank, being a business, decides that you are now a risk and calls the loan. So even though you never missed a payment or did anything wrong you now lose the house because you cant raise the cash to pay it back. Just business right? Banks avoiding a future problem..right? 

Post: Should I kick them out at the end of the lease???

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Originally posted by @Bruce Woodruff:
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

As long as she pays rent and repairs I don't see why you need to mess her life up even more.

This is a business and he owes it to himself to take care of it. She is a risk in any way you care to look at it. The odds of her not causing an issue someday are slim and none. Everyone stop with all of the hand-wringing here. He needs to move on from this situation as nicely as possible. Make it a win/win for all involved.

'Its a business' is just rationalization that allows you to be a jerk. In this case there is no current problem. It is anticipation of future problems that may or may not happen.  

Post: My Take on Every Thread in the Wholesaling Forum

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Originally posted by @Duane Alexander:
Originally posted by @Don Konipol:
Originally posted by @Duane Alexander:

Other thinly veiled "wholesalers are bad" circle jerk post huh? Let me grab my seat.

No,  my point is not that “wholesalers are bad”.  First, it is intended to be humorous because  most wholesale threats follow the same formula.  Second, there is no doubt that wanna be investors with no Capital are attracted to wholesaling but do not understand how difficult it is and what it takes to do it profitably.  

I know several wholesalers who currently have businesses that gross a million plus that started with very little capital. In either case, since you know better than everyone else, why don’t you help  instead of making threads to make yourself feel more high, mighty, and more superior than the next guy? Posting another “herp derp look at those stupid young wholesalers over there that have it all wrong let’s laugh at them” type of thread helps nobody and adds to the problem.

There are plenty of wannabe lenders, realtors, and other real estate investors who have unrealistic expectations that you can make condescending corny threads about. Stay out of the wholesale section if newbies asking questions about wholesaling russles your jimmies so much. 

#5!