Originally posted by @Kimberly T.:
Originally posted by @Andrew Jordan:
@Kimberly T. - I kind of (have to) agree with @Account Closed here.
Also, assuming the tennant is "using/selling meth", "shoot up his building dealing drugs", or "ODs on something in the unit and no one notices until they smell the decomp" is unfair.
It would be like you renting a place...your landlord walks in and sees your 6 mo old baby strapped to a carrier while you are outside getting the carseat ready. Landlord doesn't see you but sees the baby, ALONE, inside without your supervision. You see your landlord and tell him you were just around the corner, for 5 minutes, getting the car ready. Unfortunately, he decides you're lying to him, calls CPS, police, etc, and accuses you of child abuse. Keep in mind, you've never made a late payment, had trouble at your place, had any complaints, or created damage of any kind.
Not the best analogy, but hopefully you get the idea...
Again, I'm not defending said tennant. I just believe he should have a chance to explain himself before letting any emotions come into a business decision. Anyhow, Im just interested in thinking creatively in any situation. There's always a great solution to any dilemma.
You're right, it's not the best analogy. In fact, it's not an appropriate analogy at all. There's nothing illegal with leaving your baby in a carrier while preping the car seat. It IS, however, completely illegal to possess illegal drugs. You think tenants don't get in fights in their homes or OD on drugs at their homes? You have never watched an episode of COPS. Our PM in AZ had a tenant in another landlord's property die with a needle in his arm. No one knew it until the downstairs tenant complained about the smell... a week later. That landlord learned a valuable lesson in having better screening criteria.
But, if you guys want to have tenants who will (not "may", WILL) be having less than savory characters at your complex, not respecting your property, and possibly putting your property and other tenants in danger, then that's your choice. Leaves more good tenants for me. :)
Edit to add: most leases state that illegal behavior is prohibited on the premises. There's a reason people have put that in leases - it's because illegal behavior on the premises never turns out good for the landlord. At best, it's neutral for the landlord, but that's not often.
Well, you completely ignored my point, which I half expected.
You are right, and you validated my point even more. Thank you! Your tenant says: "there's nothing wrong here. I pay you every month on time. I treat this place as it was my own. There is no damage and has never been. Ive had a great business relationship with you. I am respectful of you and your property...oh, and here is my wife and daughter. Very nice to meet you."
But you disregard all of that and tell him:
"It IS, however, completely illegal to possess illegal drugs. You think you won't get in fights in your home or OD on drugs at your home? You have never watched an episode of COPS. Our PM in AZ had a tenant in another landlord's property die with a needle in his arm. No one knew it until the downstairs tenant complained about the smell... a week later. That landlord learned a valuable lesson in having better screening criteria.
But, you will (not "may", WILL) be having less than savory characters at your complex, not respecting your property, and possibly putting your property and other tenants in danger, and that leaves more good tenants for me. :)
Most leases state that illegal behavior is prohibited on the premises. There's a reason people have put that in leases - it's because illegal behavior on the premises never turns out good for the landlord. At best, it's neutral for the landlord, but that's not often."
Then you call the cops on him, get him arrested, and ruin whatever is left of his dignity as a father. You also evict him while all that is happening for him so he now has no place to live temporarily.
Other than the small amount of drugs found inside his dwelling, he's been pretty responsible in all regards to your business relationship. You might say, that's statistically relevant. Like maybe it's worth a sit down meeting with him first?