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All Forum Posts by: Dave Bingham

Dave Bingham has started 7 posts and replied 118 times.

Post: Tampa- looking for cleaning crew to deep clean

Dave BinghamPosted
  • Contractor
  • Land O' lakes, FL
  • Posts 129
  • Votes 56

@Aaron T.

It happens. You'll get the next one!

Post: New far-far-away member & questions on investing in FL

Dave BinghamPosted
  • Contractor
  • Land O' lakes, FL
  • Posts 129
  • Votes 56

@Christophe Noualhat

Hi Chris. I can't answer whether your property management would go out there or not. If I had to take a guess I would say that most would not. I can tell you in my experience with multi-family management I was out there everyday that I was working. I'd look for anything that impacted the asset negatively. You really get to know a property intimately this way. Like one of the buildings hallways concrete finish was more abrasive than the rest and the lint from dryers would get caught creating sweepers that would capture all sorts of small specks of garbage. We identified the problem, drafted and sent a letter to the residents who were affected, worked room into our budget and remediated the problem.

Getting there at 7 and walking the ground picking up any trash in slacks and a button down with a tie really leaves an impression on your cleaning staff and on the residents as well. We tried to identify anything and everything both short term and long term. Were tree branches overhanging, what areas of the property repeatedly accumulated trash? Was it from natural wind patterns or was their a liter bug in our mist? Did the curbs have any areas that had repeated tire trauma? Did we schedule the trash pickup enough times a week to avoid "the pile" of various debris outside the dumpster? Were our doggy poop bags fully stocked? etc...

This was multi-family so it was easy to quickly see many units but I'd still ask to see if my property manager goes out there at least once every three months if you're dealing with houses. This allows them to see what I call "time accumulated " problems such as a congregation of faded playground equipment in the yard, people consistently parking in the front yard, overhanging trees, any trauma that the resident didn't volunteer such as a banged garage, broken and taped up window, etc...

Ask @Eric Odum about possibly other property managers in the area. I think he and his partner are tossing around the idea of getting into property management. I'm not sure if they are doing residential but it doesn't hurt to ask and get a second opinion.

Post: Tampa- looking for cleaning crew to deep clean

Dave BinghamPosted
  • Contractor
  • Land O' lakes, FL
  • Posts 129
  • Votes 56

@Aaron T.

Ask my colleague Alex Pereira. He found someone the other day when he and I were talking to some contractors. I'm not sure she has cleaned his property yet but he has spoken to her at length I think about what she can and can't do and what she generally charges I think.

Post: New far-far-away member & questions on investing in FL

Dave BinghamPosted
  • Contractor
  • Land O' lakes, FL
  • Posts 129
  • Votes 56

Eric nailed it. Ingress is just another way of saying a way to gain entry. Making it difficult for them to enter the house and consistent annual inspections are your best bets. Try to keep mulch or materials that retain moisture well away from your asset. Trim dead branches that overhang your house for obvious roof issues but also this can provide another way for termites to get in if they are in the dead branch. They or the branch can fall on the roof. Also install gutters. This helps not only with preventing foundation issues but also prevents that telltale sign of the gully around the house that remains extremely well hydrated. Having this area of moist soil is an all out invitation to termites and other critters as well.

Post: New far-far-away member & questions on investing in FL

Dave BinghamPosted
  • Contractor
  • Land O' lakes, FL
  • Posts 129
  • Votes 56

@Christophe Noualhat

Hi Chris. I think what @Eric Odum is trying to emphasize is that a seller can't let people in unless the asset is under contract. This is what we were talking about earlier regarding whether to include a specific clause into the contract to allow for inspection.

This would be accomplished during the legal portion of your due diligence period. However as we have discussed you're not here and having an expert come in tell you exactly how much it will be to bring it ip to code is just not feasible. They would need to take Sheetrock down to confirm stud spacing, wiring, etc...

No seller and is going to allow that, much less if they are occupied. This is a great place to negotiate price but as we have discussed with your current situation it would be better to pass.

As far as wood frame, it's not that big of a deal. Block is certainly more sturdy but has its own associated issues. In my opinion as long as you get a termite inspection from a reputable company you should be fine with wood frame. If it's clear I'd take steps to prevent ingress by WDO. If not perhaps move on to the next one. 

Post: Is there a market?

Dave BinghamPosted
  • Contractor
  • Land O' lakes, FL
  • Posts 129
  • Votes 56

@Trent Fisher

Hi Trent. Get in touch with my colleague Rick C. He also lives in PA and has rental property in Tampa. He might be able to help you out!

Post: New far-far-away member & questions on investing in FL

Dave BinghamPosted
  • Contractor
  • Land O' lakes, FL
  • Posts 129
  • Votes 56

@Christophe Noualhat

Yes, you can get it permitted but you'll need an county inspector to come out and look at it. This process is often long, costly and in general a pain. Keep in mind that these county inspectors interact heavily with other county inspectors and will communicate possible other code violations the property may have to their co-workers who will then pay you a visit. It's not a bad route to go if you were here and saw exactly what needed to be done and could adjust the price accordingly. If you could see it with your own eyes you can reason that maybe the owner just messed up in this area and nothing else. Since you are in Madagascar this is difficult. You are relying on an agent who most likely is not specialized in building codes and steps needed for permitting to give you sage and accurate advice about what needs to be done.

I'm not sure what you mean when you said "can the sale be attached to the presentation of a permit by an owner means?" but I think what you are asking is can proof of permitting be a stipulation for a successful sale. If that is your question then the answer is yes. You can ask for almost anything. Whether you'll get it or not is another matter.  Even if you went that route and they agreed and supplied the permitting documentation you still may be in trouble as you only specified permitting and remediation proof for the split. When the county inspector comes in they may find stuff not within the domain of their tasks but will still communicate that to their buddies. You don't want these other violations pending, be ignorant of them and think everything is great because the seller provided everything exactly as you asked.

If it's worth the hassle is a subjective question. I can answer a resounding no if i were in your situation. I'd have to see it personally and understand exactly what I am getting into. Everyone is different though and your risk tolerance and patience may be different than mine.

I'd contact the permitting department and explain your situation and see what they have to say about it. I imagine it will be something you've already heard but who knows? Doesn't hurt to try. Here's a link to them:

http://www.hillsboroughcounty.org/index.aspx?NID=1...

You can still have a private home inspection done irrespective of whether something was permitted or not. They are a private company and are not restricted access or kept from doing an inspection from the government unless the house is under some sort of government claim such as eminent domain, crime scene investigation or condemned. If you were referring to an inspection by the government then they will also come in even if there is an issue with something not being permitting. In fact they are compelled to do so.

It's common and expected to be able to have access to every unit when dealing with multifamily that is 2-4 units. No clause should have to be explicitly created to allow you access during the physical due diligence portion of the due diligence period. I would try to schedule it with the owner so they could all be done on the same day. This disrupts the residents less and makes it less expensive for you. To help facilitate getting your way with this I'd offer to give the seller a copy of the report once it was done. That way if your deal doesn't go through they'll have a better idea of what needs to be done for free. It also allows them to contest future reports erroneous information. Pointing these benefits out with often get the seller to capitulate to your terms within this specific area.

I'd definitely do your financial due diligence first. Ask for copies of the lease and a rent roll. verify that rents are going for X in that area. If yours are higher how is the seller getting extra?

Do your legal due diligence next. Clouds on title?, zoning and permit compliant, construction liens or other liens on the property?

Then physical due diligence. You may not even get to this point. I'd suggest doing it in this order as it's a bummer to pay for an inspector ~$300 just to find out the project isn't viable because of other issues in the financial or legal areas.

The value of .35 comes from the ratio (in this case) of rented households / owner occupied households. Ideally you want .25-.3. This indicates that a balance has been struck between the jobs that create other jobs through a multiplier effect and jobs that do not or if they do the multiple is low and indicates a stable economy and hence a stable housing area.

Doctors, Engineers, Business owners, etc. have multiples of anywhere from 5-20 on a first level tier. This means that they create direct demand  for this many jobs in a local economy. They need a tailor, mechanic, grocer, fast food restaurants, malls, etc... These individuals are owner occupants 95% of the time. So for easy math I round it up to 100%. 

The folks who work in the mall create fewer jobs from the simple fact that they don't have as much disposable income. Their multiples usually start somewhere between 0 and 1 and range up to maybe 5 on a good day. These are typically your renters.

If an area has 3.5 renters for every 6.5 owner occupants (or 3.5 renters for every 10 people) it's approaching an unsustainable level unless the O.O. are extremely affluent and their multiples are closer to 20. Most of the time this is not the case and a good rule of thumb is having a ratio that ranges from .25-.30. If your ratio is lower than that you might be looking at an area where there may be demand for more rentals assuming other metrics are able to be checked off. having an area where the value is .35 means you have a lot of folks with low multiples and few folks with higher multiples. This creates a precarious situation where employment is tenuous or it could also be that employment is fine and plenty of it within a short driving distance but if the majority of your population are renting it's fair to say that they are transient and most likely do not have any vested interest in the community or general appearance.  Investing in such an area seems to be antithetical to trying to capture capital appreciation. I know that is not a primary driver behind the renting model but if you're in a boat why not have the wind at your back instead of against you?

Post: That sinking feeling

Dave BinghamPosted
  • Contractor
  • Land O' lakes, FL
  • Posts 129
  • Votes 56

There is a silent killer among us that is often times overlooked. The name of this dreaded beast is sinkholes. Here are a few links that tell about how they form, whom to contact if one impacts you, signs to look out for and more general information.

http://www.swfwmd.state.fl.us/hydrology/sinkholes/

http://www.plotscan.com/

While this next link is specific to Pasco county Florida it gives you a general idea of what to query when looking in your county. Try searching "X county sinkhole permits".

https://secure.pascocountyfl.net/bccpapa/Opal/Sink...

Post: New far-far-away member & questions on investing in FL

Dave BinghamPosted
  • Contractor
  • Land O' lakes, FL
  • Posts 129
  • Votes 56

@Christophe Noualhat

Hi Christophe. There were a few things that gave me pause.

1.) As Walter mentioned above the split in the future will give you issues when you try to sell. The best advice I could give you would to do some more due diligence to make sure that the split has been recorded at the county appraisers office. via the floor plan picture.

http://www.hcpafl.org/CamaDisplay.aspx?OutputMode=Input&searchType=RealEstate&page=FindByAddress

I would also check with the permitting office to make sure as well.

https://webapps.hillsboroughcounty.org/pgm/resources/onlineservices/permits/

If these things have not been done according to code or had permits pulled you're asking for trouble from a variety of directions. It's not worth it.

2.) Ask the agent to back up his assertions with data. It's very easy to flap your gums and tell someone how something is when they are unfamiliar with a situation, in this case the local market and submarket.

Ask specifically for like-kind properties for rent or that are currently rented. This will take 15-20 minutes of driving around to jot down phone numbers from sign sin the yard advertising available space. I'd call the numbers and get details such as the address (google map it and check out he street view for a visual. Also use the timeline function to see the changes in the neighborhood), the number of sq. ft., any concessions they are offering, how long it has been vacant, do the owners have any other units, if so how are those doing?

3.) The fear of disturbing the tenants and having them leave would only apply if there were no lease or if it were a month to month lease situation. If either of these are the case you'll need to budget in the cost of finding long term tenants with a lease. You always, always, always need to look in each unit when buying multi-family. Skipping them is analogous to doing a home inspection and not having access to see the kitchen and a bedroom. The inside of those units need to be seen to give an accurate picture of what you're getting yourself into.

4.) The house has been on the market for a year and is listed for 60% of its original price.  I'd not even look at information like that because it brings up too many variables and questions that are subjective and are often irrelevant such as, when was the original price tabulated? Was it at the apex of the boom? Who determined this original price, what was it based on? etc... Check recently sold via that first link I sent you for the county records. This will give you an idea of a range houses are going for in that area once you control for year built, sq. ft. and utility. Next I'd look at the months inventory. Your realtor should be able to get this to you. This gives you an idea of the supply of houses in the area and a starting point at how long it will take to sell. Taking this back in increments of 3 mos./ 6 mos. etc. will give you a velocity at which this number is changing. This will tell you if  a neighborhood is cooling or heating up in regards to demand. Tie this back into point 2. Is the area heating up because of investors or owner occupants? If investors are they flipping or creating a huge competition pool by creating rentals? Once you know what houses have sold for, the direction the neighborhood is moving you'll have a better idea of how to interpret the currently listed properties. Are the jumps in value of listed properties versus ones that have been sold justified by not only an increase in number of homes sold but also a reduction in the days on market? Or are the list prices below what is the value and trend of the neighborhood?

5.) I'd use Zillow for QUALITATIVE only. Look at the inside of your nearby comps with the pictures and make adjustments for quality accordingly. Try to quantify the ratio or for renters/owner occupied. Zillow has a function where you can search for rent only. Tie this into #2's list of landlords renting their properties. Eliminate the duplicates. For less trouble down the road I'd suggest passing on anything that has a value of .35 or higher.

Post: Greetings from sunny Tampa

Dave BinghamPosted
  • Contractor
  • Land O' lakes, FL
  • Posts 129
  • Votes 56

@Amber Stout 

Welcome Amber. I host a meet up at my house at the end of each month compromised mostly of BP members. What sort of real estate investing are you looking to pursue? Maybe I can point you in the right direction and you'd of course be welcome to attend our meetings. Reach out if you need anything!