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All Forum Posts by: Dave Bingham

Dave Bingham has started 7 posts and replied 118 times.

Post: Rent to someone who Shortsaled their home

Dave BinghamPosted
  • Contractor
  • Land O' lakes, FL
  • Posts 129
  • Votes 56

Hi Robert,

I'd be cautious about renting to them but that doesn't mean I wouldn't. Try to determine specifically why they are having to short sale their house. When did they buy their house? Are they like everyone else and bought when the market was high and just couldn't hang on anymore? If so, that just means they have difficulty in reading market signals and is no reason to not rent to them. If they have bought in the last few years that might be an indication a propensity to live beyond their means as most of the market correction had already occurred in Hills, Pasco, Pinellas counties. Make sure you call the employers to verify income and the length of their employment. Pay attention to what they spend their money on. For instance when they arrive for the showing have they spent a lot of money on a flashy car, car accessories, clothes, etc. People broadcast what their priorities are. We only have to listen.

Protected classes fall under 7 categories. As long as you choose not to rent to them via one of these reasons you're fine.

Race, Skin color, Religion, Gender, National Origin, Disability, Familial Status

Most of these are pretty straight forward except for the last two. You can not ask about disability unless they bring it up. Even then you may only discuss how it would impact the living arrangements. You may not ask about how it happened, or the details of the disability.

Familial status also can be tricky. Pregnant women are included in this class as well. You can't ask how many kids they have or are planning to have.

You have to be careful or else you open yourself to a lawsuit that has teeth if you treat people differently. I remember one time when I was new and I was touring a couple that had kids. I asked how old the kids were. I was asking so I could tell the parents what school they would go to and activities that were local that would be conducive to that age range of kids.

I was lucky the parents were "cool". If that had been a government tester or someone looking to make a buck I could have been sued. That line of questioning violates the familial status protected class.

Make sure you base your decision on economic factors such as job length, ability to pay rent, what is their credit like? or observational factors such as is their car clean?, Do they smoke?, Did they arrive at the showing blasted or high?

None of these indicators are a protected class. Just make sure you log each potential tenant and detail meticulously why you did not rent to them. Make sure it isn't any reason that can be traced back to the protected seven classes and you should be ok.

Make sure you check with your local municipality and state government for additional classes. Ones of the horizon if not already enacted in some areas are sexual orientation, veteran status, and ultimately genetic information.

Basically just treat everyone the same. Good luck!

Post: Newbie from Tampa, FL

Dave BinghamPosted
  • Contractor
  • Land O' lakes, FL
  • Posts 129
  • Votes 56

If you're looking at SFR I'd focus on Carrollwood, Northdale, Apollo Beach, Town n' Country, Bloomingdale, Lithia and lake Magdalene area. These areas seem to have the best tenants for the price you pay for the home. Here's a little tool from Trulia that might help you.

http://www.trulia.com/home_prices/Florida/Hillsborough_County-heat_map/

You can see all sorts of information by submitting different queries such as what people want for the house and what they actually are getting, rental prices, path of progress etc...

Post: Newbie from Tampa, FL

Dave BinghamPosted
  • Contractor
  • Land O' lakes, FL
  • Posts 129
  • Votes 56

Hi Samir!

What are your goals? To hold a portfolio SFR's, multi-family, NNN leases? It's difficult to answer what you should do without more information. Having said that there really isn't a right answer for how to get there. There are many paths people take. Regarding the Tampa market, stay away from Wesley Chapel and north New Tampa. Pretty shoddy building, sinkhole issues, and loaded down with Community development district fees.

Post: Need local opinion re this property

Dave BinghamPosted
  • Contractor
  • Land O' lakes, FL
  • Posts 129
  • Votes 56

Hey Ardijan

This is about 5 miles from my place. I wouldn't say the whole area of Wesley Chapel but a good 85% of the homes, especially condo's are loaded down with CDD fees. Not to mention the mass exodus in 2006 (before the crash) because of all the shoddy building. I personally had a friend buy a condo new in that area about 1/2 mile from there. They had structural problems, mold problems and sinkhole problems all through that area. I'd really recommend staying away from Wesley Chapel and the very north part of New Tampa. These places were built during the height of the mania and very little due diligence was done on the land and almost no oversight on the building construction.

Post: Dave Bingham from Tampa!

Dave BinghamPosted
  • Contractor
  • Land O' lakes, FL
  • Posts 129
  • Votes 56

Thanks Brandon. You and Josh have a nice site here. I appreciate the tips.

Post: Dave Bingham from Tampa!

Dave BinghamPosted
  • Contractor
  • Land O' lakes, FL
  • Posts 129
  • Votes 56

Thanks guys. I'll check out that article.

Post: Dave Bingham from Tampa!

Dave BinghamPosted
  • Contractor
  • Land O' lakes, FL
  • Posts 129
  • Votes 56

Thanks guys. I appreciate the warm welcome and tips.

Post: Dave Bingham from Tampa!

Dave BinghamPosted
  • Contractor
  • Land O' lakes, FL
  • Posts 129
  • Votes 56

Hi gang. I've been a member for a few weeks now but have only recently gotten around to introducing myself and taking a more active role in exploring the site. I've been enjoying the podcasts. This last one with Ben, Josh and Brandon was interesting.

I've worked in the commercial real estate field for approximately 5 years. I specialized in appraisals and markets studies of multi-family units. The company I worked for also covered independent, assisted and nursing home appraisals. We have analyzed and visited over 1000 apartment complexes across the United States and performed approximately 200 market studies.

We also were involved as a primary appraiser for the government in assisting them with BRAC (Base Realignment and Closure). We provided estimates of the highest and best use for various military bases by studying the markets surrounding them.

While performing this work I accidently started my own company, selling games of all things, a number of years ago that performed financially much better than my work at the appraisal field so I left the business to pursue my own. I just sold the company this last December and I am looking to get back into the multi-family groove.

Unfortunately this seems to be the "hot" market right now for multi-family. I am interested in "flipping" but I want to limit it to emerging markets. I think the opportunities for this are very rare at least to my standards. I'm very much in Ben's camp here. I also would not be opposed to acquiring multi-family units for cash flow purposes long term either if they aren't "living on a prayer". I, like Ben, prefer a DSCR of 1.4 or better and a way of achieving that without have a 50%LTV. I'm also looking at Self storage investing in the next 3 years or so. I think this is an area that will continue to grow and experience accelerated growth. I'm also interested in syndication. Anyone that has experience with this and is looking for an excuse to talk about it I just gave you one.

If you guys have any tips or advice please feel free to let me know. While I have a lot of experience from one side of the business I'm very much new to the investing side aside from 5 SFR flips I did in 2002. I made a lot of money on those but a monkey could have done the same with that market.

Currently I work out of the house and contract out rental survey's and market studies for various property management firms, investors, and lenders.

If you have any questions please feel free to pick my brain. I'll be more than happy to help you out!