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All Forum Posts by: Amit Dhawan

Amit Dhawan has started 6 posts and replied 23 times.

Hello everyone,

It's been a long time since I posted here. Since then we've signed the lease with Starbucks for our San Antonio location. We've also purchased land in Liberty Hill for a small strip center. We just received the General Contractor quotes for the San Antonio location. Anyone with recent commercial retail construction experience? The cheapest quote we've received is for $215/sq.ft which is pretty high. Also, they are not accepting any clause that binds them to a timeline which is crazy. So no penalties or liquidated damages for any delay. Is that normal now? Any insights are appreciated.

Thanks.

Post: Commercial development - get this done before signing contract

Amit DhawanPosted
  • Investor
  • Sugar Land, TX
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 17
Originally posted by @Joel Owens:

Starbucks can be a good mini anchor for your retail center. The KEY with them is getting a good lease on your terms. You have to evaluate how strong your site is for leverage.

Example is your site a C or B site versus an A site? If it's an A site that Starbucks and other tenants are coveting and expressing interest in then you tend to have more leverage.

With Starbucks things to watch out for. They typically sign 10 year primary lease term with rental increases 10% every 5 years.

Lately they have been trying for 7.5% every 5 years increases. They also try to add termination clauses to the lease. This can be a kiss of death for a buyer.

If they absolutely insist on early termination clause then you want them to have to disclose sales on an ongoing basis for that location and also have an early termination fee they would have to pay to get out of the lease. They also would need to give 12 months notice for possible termination instead of 3 to 6 months.

They also try to cap year 1 property tax assessments. Lately post corona they are trying to add force majeure clause to the leases where they reduce rent or stop rent for awhile if another event happens like that in the future. Tenants for retail tenants try to impose non-cummulative caps on cam, management, etc. All that makes the property less desirable for a buyer buying your property when you eventually sell off.

Developers typically have maybe a 9 cap or so in it and sell for a 6 cap and lose maybe 100 basis points to real estate commissions, short term capital gains, etc. so might profit 200 basis points. Some developers do better that are prolific and build 10 to 20 retail centers a year because they save on labor and materials doing bulk building. When you are doing one off things get more expensive typically.

TI with Starbucks is okay if you get the lease terms you want. If they want to give you a horrible lease with terms above then would pass. No legal advice given.  

Hi @Joel Owens, you had given me some great advise on Starbucks which BTW is moving forward, albeit really slowly, towards a signed LOI. Given your epxeprience, I was hoping to connect with you on a slightly different topic - long distance real estate investing. I've been working on a tool to help the small-time investors and wanted to see if I can get your feedback/thoughts. Let me know if I can send you some info.

Thanks!

BTW - we finally closed. Our first major development project. Let's see how it goes. I might not be very regular here but I'll continue to post about my experiences and learnings as we go. Currently we are going through pre-leasing activities in order to get to about 50% pre-leasing which is what banks are asking us for before they give us the construction loan. Good news is that we have one signed LOI already and negotiating on another one - a major national chain. These national chains have too much leverage and try to setup a very one sided contract. Spending a lot of money on our attorney but I think it's worth it. Stay tuned !

Thanks @Bill Snyder. Yes, actually we did get the zoning report. And agree, that is another important task that needs to be done prior to Closing.

@Joel Owens, Thanks for a great insight as well as actionable advise on my specific question. The site is a pad to a Super Walmart but the neighborhood is low-mid income so not a C but probably not an A as well - hard for me to judge. But I get your point - goal would be to push the limits with Starbucks to see how much do they want to be on this site and based on that negotiate some of the critical terms you mentioned in my favor. Thanks again! I'll probably pick your brain again in the future if you dont' mind ! 

Post: Atlanta, GA or Sugar Land, TX?

Amit DhawanPosted
  • Investor
  • Sugar Land, TX
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 17

Hi @Vicky Liu, I live and work in Sugar Land. Great place to live and raise a famaily, not the best place to invest though, atleast not right now. BTW, I'm an agent as well beside my other day job as an engineer so I can tell you there's been a crazy bidding war here on investable homes say under $300K. I myself would like to wait. Maybe wait a bit for the market to atleast stabalize a bit. Just a side note, I generally like to visit the place or have someone visit for you before and get the general picture of the place before you invest.

Thanks

Thanks @Joel Owens. I've started pre-leasing effort during the due-dilligence period but so far no LOIs. Good news is that Starbucks has shown interest but they want a lot of TI and are very restrictive. Based on your experience is it worth biting the bullet and going for it? Construction cost is a major concern as you pointed out. What kind of spread do you typically see between the build CAP vs. Sell CAP rate for experienced developers or I should say what's considered a good spread from ROI perspective.

Post: Anyone with experience in getting Starbucks as a tenant

Amit DhawanPosted
  • Investor
  • Sugar Land, TX
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 17

Hi all,

Currently in the process of pre-leasing my shopping center which we haven't yet started constructing. Received some interest from Starbucks which is great but they are extremly restrictive and punitive although they do pay high rent. Is it worth it? Do they negotiate on some of these restrictive clauses in thier lease or is it take it or leave it?

Thanks.

Great idea on the Youtube video, although I'm not very media savvy :-). BTW I just posted a followup post (due dilligence focus) in the same forum - check it out here.

Thanks.

In my previous post under a similar heading I talked about my main learnings from a land deal that I'm working to close. In that article I focussed on what to be mindful of BEFORE signing the contract. In this post, I'll talk about key care-abouts and tasks once you sign the contract and are into the due dilligence period:

1. Survey - Get your own survey done ASAP even if you have seller's version - generally you'd need an ALTA survey for a commercial deal. Although not a legal requirement, it'd likely be required by your lender. It does cost almost twice as much as boundary survey but has a lot more detail than a plain boundary agreement. You also cannot complete your Title review until you have a survey. Your attorny will ask for it. Did I mention getting an attorney to help you through the due-dilligence - it's money well spent !

2. Phase 1 environmental - Get this done in parallel to survey. You may need a Phase 2 as well in case Phase 1 finds potential concerns (say, issues due to a nearby Gas station). Phase 1 is an initial assessment, more focussed on document research while Phase 2 is where they actually take soil samples etc. 

3. Title documents and review - Engage with competent attorney and get started on title document review which has a time limit. You'd very likely have "objections" which you'd (and your counsel) need to work through with the Title company and seller. This is a critical step  - do not take it lightly. I found a lot of issues such as concerns with utility capacity, storm drain easements etc. that we eventually resolved and turned out to be minor but could have been show-stoppers.

4. Engage architect/civil engineering - If you are buying land to start development and not just land-banking, I'd engage with an architect immediately. You'd need to start working through a preliminary site-plan to validate your assumptions about the building area, parking ratio, drive-thrus etc. Yes, I'd do it during the due-dilligence. Also, your architect will work with the survey you just completed in #1 and ensure there are no issues in building a structure and meeting parking requirements etc. You may need to sign a contract which is fine since you won't get charged for detailed planning/construction work unless the construction actually starts. If you don't end up closing the deal, you may just need to pay for site-plan and other minor expenses.

5. Engage with a civil engineer - Have atleast prelminary review with civil engineer on all the utility easements. 

6. Engage with a Leasing agent - Depending on your timeline for construction, I'd engage with a good leasing agent as well who knows the area. For a shopping center, banks would require center to be atleast 50% pre-leased before they give you construction loan. Also, the leasing agent can bring in his/her experience into the site-plan discussions with the architect.

More later! Thoughts and suggestions are always welcome.