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All Forum Posts by: Alex R.

Alex R. has started 17 posts and replied 128 times.

Originally posted by Sam W.:
Alex R. Just for giggles I did some quick math to determine 2012 expense ratios (Expenses/Gross Income) for a couple of my properties for which I have the data handy.

4-Unit: 52%
SFH: 35%
2-Unit: 78%
2-Unit: 34%
2-Unit: 28%

Hello Sam

Are your properties cashflow positive or negative ? Because if you are still paying mortgage for them, I can't see how can they cash flow with these high expenses.

also I was wondering about your vacancy rate as well. I can imagine cleveland area having a way higher vacancy rate than california.

Is that one reason for your high expenses rate ?

at 128 K this will pass the 2% rent criteria but that is a far cry from the asking price of 225k.

I wonder how seller will feel about an offer this low !

Originally posted by Andrew O.:
Insurance, property tax, vacancy, legal (evictions etc), accounting, maintenance, capital repairs, property management, getting an apartment rent ready (change of tenants), are just a few of the expenses you will come up against. You have accounted for 2 of them.

How old is the roof, water heaters, AC units? How is the exterior looking? As I mentioned before you are only factoring in 1% vacancy, in Bakersfield...? How old is the plumbing and wiring?

Are you going to manage it and do the required works on it? You will save by working for free.

It's not like the idea of 50% expenses was just made up...

Andrew

It seems to be a good option for me to move in one of the units. Not only it will be a good learning course for me but also I can save on property management costs, qualify for a way lower down payment, better interest rate and better loan in general, also not paying rent for a one bedroom apartment I currently own.

On the flip side, it may be a little hassle to live in a property as such and sharing a wall with your own tenants. But it may be well worth it in the long run.

Originally posted by Mehran Kamari:
Alex I highly suggest you read around the forums for a couple of.... months! And pickup some books on investing in multifamily property before delving in to such a big deal. I mean this in only a constructive way. It can only help!

Mehran

I just read your profile and I highly suggest you read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analysis_paralysis

Originally posted by Andrew O.:
The community here generally allows for 50% of gross rents for expenses, these are a reality over the life of a rental.

this is a percentage that seems highly unlikely and unrealistic as seller states the expenses at $ 185 and yours is 7 TIMES HIGHER at $1280

I just don't see how this property can cost this high unless there is something seriously wrong with it which has not been disclosed yet.

But 50 % is still an unrealistic estimate nevertheless.

if I live in one of the units:

what will be my down payment and what interest rate will apply to my loan ?

Realistically speaking

how is financing for a multi-family unit different from a conventional loan ?

So here I do some due diligence. Are these calculations correct ?
How bad “extra” expenses can be?

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Based on the numbers above,

the monthly income of this property is: $2560
Purchase price: $230k
Down payment: $23 k
Rate: 3.466%
Principle and interest: $ 926
Tax: $216
Homeowner ins: $67
Mortgage Ins: $102

Monthly Payment: $1310
Monthly expense stated by seller: $ 185
Monthly expense NOT stated by seller: $ 200

Total Monthly Payments: $ 1695
Monthly Net Income: $ 865
Yearly Net Income: $ 10380
ROI : % 45

I came across this listing on MLS and was wondering if this is a good deal to buy and rent out ?

Are banks going to finance this?

“””Great 5 unit property across the street from Medical Hospital. Includes 1 3 bedroom 2 bath unit, 2 studio units, and 2 1 bedroom 1 bath units. Perfect for investors! Drive By Only, do not disturb the tenants!””””

Statues: Active
Year Built 1932*
Income/Expense Info Actual
Total Number of Unit 5
Zoning C-1
Annual Gross Income $30720
Vacancy Factor 1.00%
Cap Rate % 0.13
Total Annual Expense $2224.08
Annual Net Income $28495.92
Parking Uncovered

Also expenses are only about 7% of gross income which is in huge conflict with 50% rule seen in this forum. (Numbers are actual and not proforma)
So my question is is this a great deal even though it doesn’t pass the 2% or 50% test ?

Post: Confusion about foreclosed properties VS REO properties!

Alex R.Posted
  • Bakersfield, CA
  • Posts 128
  • Votes 7
Originally posted by J Scott:
Just to add to everything above, a lot of people try to stay away from the terminology "foreclosure," as it's very ambiguous (as you can see).

Generally, you'll hear "pre-foreclosure" for a property going through the foreclosure process but not yet sold at auction, "trustee" sale for a foreclosed property being sold at auction and REO for a foreclosed property that didn't sell at auction and is now being sold by the lender in an open-market sale.

Interesting point J Scott

So trustee sale means property is being auctioned off at court steps ?