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All Forum Posts by: Aaron Akins

Aaron Akins has started 11 posts and replied 50 times.

Post: Broken Bow Oklahoma STR

Aaron AkinsPosted
  • Investor
  • Boise, ID
  • Posts 52
  • Votes 11
Originally posted by @Jason Stevens:
Originally posted by @Aaron Akins:

May I objectively ask what is the appeal of Broken Bow from a vacation standpoint? 

Broken Bow actually refers to Hochatown, which is the area outside Beavers Bend State Park and Broken Bow lake.  The area offers typical outdoor activities like boating, hiking, fly fishing etc.  There is also a winery, brewery, and distillery.

If you’re looking to invest I’d highly recommend visiting the area for a couple days.


The area is only a 2-3 hour drive from most DFW so it makes for a great vacation spot without a long drive.

Thanks for the reply. I would love to visit! 

Post: Broken Bow Oklahoma STR

Aaron AkinsPosted
  • Investor
  • Boise, ID
  • Posts 52
  • Votes 11

May I objectively ask what is the appeal of Broken Bow from a vacation standpoint? 

Post: 10% Down On Jumbo Loan For Second Home

Aaron AkinsPosted
  • Investor
  • Boise, ID
  • Posts 52
  • Votes 11
Originally posted by @Bobby Forsythe:

@Aaron Akins This is something i recently learnt the hard way. Don't assume because 5 banks tell you something isn't possible that it's not. All banks have different guidelines and I find that local credit unions and portfolio banks are the best at offering the best options. Keep looking and your gonna find one

Thanks Bobby!

Post: 10% Down On Jumbo Loan For Second Home

Aaron AkinsPosted
  • Investor
  • Boise, ID
  • Posts 52
  • Votes 11
Originally posted by @Julee Felsman:

@Aaron Akins It is definitely possible to secure jumbo 90% financing on a second home. I'm helping a few clients with such loans right now (including a couple of purchases in the Smokies in Tennessee). 

Thanks you your response Julee. It seems that DTI is a common obstacle with such loans.

Originally posted by @Nathan W.:

I'm in the process of building 3 cabins. I struggled with the same questions you have but I think it's more about rental rates pre/post inflation vs pre/post covid. They are connected for sure but I don't think these price incrases are going away. 

EDIT: I think they might settle down a bit but they aren't giong back to where they were pre-covid. Stress test your numbers.

Nathan, I'm glad to know that someone else is asking the same question! How do you recommend one 'stress test' their numbers in this particular scenario? 

Originally posted by @Joshua Strickland:

And don’t forget the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians recently broke ground on what they are calling an “experiential destination” off I-40 in Sevierville. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/w...

Couple that with Dollywood investing in another hotel in Pigeon Forge and it seems like demand for the area will stay somewhat high.

https://wcyb.com/amp/news/loca...

If it’s good enough for Dolly to invest in, then it’s good enough for me.

Joshua, thanks for the insight! Super cool to know these things. 

Originally posted by @Luke Carl:

OP. You will not find any other asset class that brings more ROI than a smoky mountain log cabin. It's just not possible.

Hell I'm looking at multi family nation wide and you're lucky to get 5% COC IF you can even find something for sale. I looked at a 3mm deal a couple days ago that was 0.01% COC. Less than a savings account.

With short term in an actual VACATION market…..


The question is not “will it make money” 

The question is “can I handle dealing with drunk people on vacation” 

Luke, my question isn't "will it make money" now - there is no doubt that you are very bullish in this market and I understand why that is. However, my question is "will it make money" 2 years from now and can I afford the mortgage using rental incomes two+ years from now! 

I think that from an investors standpoint (and calculating the risks that we take as investors) asking the second question is very valid and I'd hope most other investors in this market are asking themselves the same question.  

I can personally control my systems and I can control how I react to drunk people in my vacation rental. I can even control my cash reserves in the case a drug person decides to cause property damage. 

However, I CANNOT control the market!

I can control how I analyze the market before investing in it.   

@Collin Hays I think you opinions are very valid, for whatever my opinion is worth! You paradigm to the challenge I presented is better than my initial way of looking at the situation. If I can put a small amount down on a home and have someone else pay it off, then it's still a wonderful situation in the long run. Thanks again for sharing you point of view! 


@Jerry Calhoun...so it looks like you are getting, on average, about 57% more for your rents in 2021 for your single family home rental than you were getting in 2019?

@Collin Hays I'm a little concerned (from a personal standpoint) about this portion of your post:

"Future investors in the Smokies will not be able to count on a lot of monthly income from a property with a mortgage. The window has shut on that, as prices have soared to a point that the numbers don't work for that."

This has me concerned because I don't personally feel that investing in a property at this point in time, and counting on an increase in value of the property as the sole purpose of my investment, is a smart idea.