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All Forum Posts by: Adam Adams

Adam Adams has started 3 posts and replied 108 times.

Post: What was your worst Note deal?

Adam AdamsPosted
  • Investor
  • Small Town, TX
  • Posts 110
  • Votes 251

@Paul Vincent - I like NE Ohio. I just happen to have all my lemons there. I still have a couple over in Akron (an REO that we are tuning into a rental, and a reperforming note that has some really good cash flow). I guess I'm out of assets in Cleveland. We took our last one to Foreclosure on May 1. I paid the taxes early to get my bid up. Tear downs in this area were about 80k. We figured if we won the auction, we could get another 20k on MLS. But I still lost it with a 41k bid. I complain, but we doubled our money at auction. I paid 12k for the note. Now Cleveland is tagged a "Hot Market" and I can't find good prices anymore.

I still have my library card there. I did pay property taxes, so I listen to audio books from the Cuyahoga County Library System.  lol

Post: Thoughts on recording a Land Contract in Missouri

Adam AdamsPosted
  • Investor
  • Small Town, TX
  • Posts 110
  • Votes 251

I have spoken with half a dozen attorneys for MO about land contracts. While they are not illegal, they are not well defined in their laws either. 5 out of 6 attorneys told me that forfeiture of a land contract can be resolved, but they can be contested because of the undefined equity. So it they might cost more money and take more time than a mortgage. MO is a fast foreclosure state, and it's pretty cheap compared to other states.  If you are creating a note, I think you'd be better off creating a mortgage instead of a land contract.  At least in MO.

I like land contracts. I just don't like the gray area that surrounds them in the state of MO, so I don't buy them there.

Post: What was your worst Note deal?

Adam AdamsPosted
  • Investor
  • Small Town, TX
  • Posts 110
  • Votes 251

I call it my Pain in Painesville. A duplex that actually looks nice on the outside. Some hoarders lived there and the inside was a disaster.  They were "remodelling", but that was just tearing down walls and not really putting anything up. They didn't bother removing the torn down walls either. And they had three kids there too. There were two boilers, but neither one worked. I don't know how they stayed warm in the winter right off the great lake up there. The east side basement wall is caving in. The garage was condemned, so I wound up having to tear it down. The police wouldn't go in to evict the hobos that were breaking in because the property was infested. So I spent money getting the pests removed. I tried to donate it to Home for Our Troops and Home for Our Heroes, but when they went in, they didn't want to tackle that project. I've got a close relationship with Code Enforcement there now. Not by choice. At least they've been nice with me and appreciate any progress.

I'm not done with it yet. I'm getting with a builder/broker. Instead of selling it to him, I'll just make him a partner and we'll split the profits. We just started that conversation and now he has left town and then when he gets back I'll be leaving town. So maybe we'll know if we are going to do anything by the end of the month. After that, I'll spend a month trying to get rid of it on Craigslist. Failing that, I'll donate it to the land bank and take the huge write-off. So that's my worse case situation. I'm in it for about 18k now and I'll be able to write it off for about 50k. 

Aside from the condition of the house, the rest of my pain has been coming from the vendors up there. It takes forever to get anything done up there. Today is the day that the house is supposed to finally be cleaned out. That's been taking me 5 months and a couple of vendors. I was trying to fire the second vendor for taking his sweet time about things (and I mean it was taking weeks for hauling trash away from the yard) and I was telling the lady at Code Enforcement about the lack of service I was getting from the guy she recommended. She put me on hold and then the vendor was the phone. He was in the office with her the whole time. I don't know if it is a relation or not, but at that time I no longer felt like it was a good idea to fire him. So he's still on and still taking his time. 

What's my lesson from Painesville? Listen to my Cleveland realtor who told me to stay away from Painesville. I wish I did. Two positive BPOs later, I quit listening to her and I am paying for it now.

I've had another lemon. That was in Cleveland. I paid for a company to winterize the house. They did, but didn't turn the water off from the main. Title issues slowed me down on selling it and while getting that cleaned up, the copper thieves came and stripped the house. Since the water was still on, the basement flooded. I thought I was going to loose money on that one, but I wound up making 10% ROI in the end. A lot less that what I was expecting in the beginning, but better than what it could have been.

I'm a lot more thorough now on my purchases. I probably wouldn't be buying that Painesville property again. That was a bad buy that could have been avoided. I have a partner on it. We've been doing business together for years now, so I'll make him whole and give him 10%. I'm making money on my other notes, so for me it's about the big picture and Painesville is just one of dozens. For him, it's about one of two notes he's on. 

That Cleveland one though... I might still buy that one. That was just bad luck. Still made a buck though. :)

Post: Potentially Big News for Note Investors!

Adam AdamsPosted
  • Investor
  • Small Town, TX
  • Posts 110
  • Votes 251

Been waiting for that. 9-0. Freaking awesome. If it went the other way, then it would be a different world for sure.

Post: NPN Joint Venture: What should I be looking for?

Adam AdamsPosted
  • Investor
  • Small Town, TX
  • Posts 110
  • Votes 251

Don't go knocking CFDs :)  

I love CFDs. Better price point than mortgages. And if you know the rules of the states that you are investing in, I find them much safer and securer than mortgages.

Post: Land Contracts In Missouri

Adam AdamsPosted
  • Investor
  • Small Town, TX
  • Posts 110
  • Votes 251

Hello all,

I like to buy notes for a living. My favorite purchases are land contracts. While I have bought mortgages in Missouri, I have not bought any Land Contracts, aka Contracts for Deed, aka Agreements for Deed.

I'm looking for two things. Some unprofessional opinions on how MO treats land contracts and I would also like a referral for few real estate attorneys. Ones that like to work with investors.

Thanks

Post: 3/1 W Cleveland for Investors

Adam AdamsPosted
  • Investor
  • Small Town, TX
  • Posts 110
  • Votes 251

Investment opportunity located adjacent to Ohio City and Gordon Square. Easy access to Rt 90 on a quiet one way street. This is a fixer upper with potential. Exterior siding, roof and gutter in good condition. Much of the original 1900's moldings still exist. Price reflects amount of interior work required. Average Rents of 3 BR is $800+

Post: What's your view on the pros/cons of using real estate agents?

Adam AdamsPosted
  • Investor
  • Small Town, TX
  • Posts 110
  • Votes 251

I'm a full time investor in Texas and I have zero properties in Texas. All of my assets are up in the Midwest. If it were not for the relationships that I have with realtors in those areas, I'd probably be back to a W2 job. I can pull comps from the internet and I can get a ballpark figure for what it's worth. However, a realtor can tell me about that neighborhood. The can tell me, hey, they've got 10 construction jobs going on a street over.  Hey, this is the new up and coming neighborhood. Hey, stay out because the crime is rampant in this part.  Hey, this house is alright, but this part of town has so many ordinances that you'll be nickel and dimed to death. I'm not going to get any of that from the internet.

My realtors make me money and my attorneys protect my money. My realtors get wine at Christmas and my attorneys get cigars.