Skip to content
×
PRO
Pro Members Get Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
$0
TODAY
$69.00/month when billed monthly.
$32.50/month when billed annually.
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
Already a Pro Member? Sign in here
Pick markets, find deals, analyze and manage properties. Try BiggerPockets PRO.
x
All Forum Categories
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

All Forum Posts by: Abram Ylitalo

Abram Ylitalo has started 13 posts and replied 47 times.

Post: The Underdog's Story - I BEGAN investing in '08

Abram YlitaloPosted
  • Investor
  • Selden, NY
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 10

Scott W., now I'm on my desktop I'd like to address a couple of the things you said. Also to both you and J Scott, I thank you for your time.

It sounds like I'm being defensive here. In 100% honesty, I suppose I am. I did come here to get a second unbiased opinion on my current holdings. As I continue, I'd like to make sure that it's understood I'm not arguing, just making sure my situation is actually understood.

To address specifically the 20% that you mentioned, I'm not sure if you actually read to the end of my post but one of the questions I asked was about whether or not anyone had experience with dropping PMI from an FHA loan. If there were any tips or tricks I should know about. Given that I am able to do this, over all, I will be 20-25% Above my expenses. This is my first year in school for Business classes and haven't been actively investing for some time now so perhaps I'm using the wrong terms. But to quote what I've said previously and try to ensure the full picture is understood...
Gross income from rentals is 5800.
Total expenses towards rental is 5230.
Given that I drop PMI total expenses will be 4790.

That will be a net of roughly 1k/month. About 21% of my payments. Taking into consideration a possibility of 75% occupancy with 4 units, even losing my largest unit, I will only be at a loss for roughly 5%/month.

So now after defending my position, I will reask a two of the questions I asked in my original post.

I'm trying to limit my exposure as much as possible and make the best of my current situation. Pretending that selling the homes was out of the question, is there anything else you guys may consider given my current situation?

For future reference, was my first post too long? is it likely that I lost people somewhere in there?

Post: The Underdog's Story - I BEGAN investing in '08

Abram YlitaloPosted
  • Investor
  • Selden, NY
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 10

Also to clarify I had a six figure at the end when I was cleaning everything up. Our military doesn't earn anything near 6 figures when were 18 an 19 years old. Also I apologize for typos I'm on my phone currently.

Post: The Underdog's Story - I BEGAN investing in '08

Abram YlitaloPosted
  • Investor
  • Selden, NY
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 10
Originally posted by Scott W.:
you have nothing designated for vacancy, evictions, nonpayment of rent & general househould expenses? that's typically 20% of the rent.

I'm sorry but I hope I'm wrong about all this. You're really taking a bath on this investment.

Guess hope appreciation kicks in soon so you can sell it.

I suppose I should mention that my qualification to perform work at the level I was, I have lost. Administratively. I will not get it back again. I have no verifiable income. I've gone from a six figure income when I began investing to now nothing. While I understand my current holdings are not going to get me extremely far ahead under any immediate circumstance I do know that while I have other people paying my mortgage (4 leases, the sf was reno'ed to a triplex if I didn't mention that prior to now) and will have some extra cash flow while someone else pays my note. My equity position as @j Scott observed isn't terrible by any means. This is my nest egg for now. I'm working with why I have. I'm not upside down on either. I figure that I'm better off holdin if I don't see the opportunity to aquire more in the future.

My subject pretty much describes my story. I describe it much more in depth in another thread I started in "starting up." I went from the underdog who was doing everything right at 19, quickly aquired more, bit off a project that was more than I could chew, almost lost everything, and now @ 24 years old ive managed to recover it all and refinance everything to a point where I'm finally earning a return while someone else pays my notes!!! No where to go but up from here! This thread has my hike story.

http://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/12/topics/85304-the-underdogs-story---i-began-investing-in-08

I didn't read the sticky about introductions before posting as I'm on my phone.

I'm currently living in Columbia Maryland. Close to DC and Baltimore. I'm attending my second year of college. Mostly for networking and because of the living stipend I get from my GI Bill.

Hey all!

My name is Abram Ylitalo. I'm here to network and get a little bit of advice from some professionals! I've written an entire thread in detail about my current financial situation and some questions. That can be found here http://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/12/topics/85304-the-underdogs-story---i-began-investing-in-08

Other than that, though, I'm here to network and find other professionals who specialize in "efficient living." Particularly that have researched or dabbled in storage container living. I know there's money there, I just want someone to help me find it!

Post: The Underdog's Story - I BEGAN investing in '08

Abram YlitaloPosted
  • Investor
  • Selden, NY
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 10

Hello all,

This will be my first post to these forums. I'll try to make it as brief, concise, and full of information as possible.

I was in the military from 06-10. I spent three of those years deployed and then deployed again as a contractor when I got out. I found myself in a position of cash. I began trying to find out how my money would work for me, became familiar with David Bach, then Kiosaki, Dolf DeRoos, etc. I fell in love with the idea of Real Estate.

I was 19 when I bought my first home. A 2 Bed 1 Bath condo in Hawaii. 286k. 6% VA Loan. I sent my final closing docs by way of handing it to the crew chief on my first flight to Afghanistan. Dec 28, 2008. Payments to include my RIDICULOUS HOA fees were around 2k/month. Rented just below MoPayments.

Got back from Afghan with a bunch of cash burning a hole in my pocket. Bought my second home. 455k REO. FHA 5.5%. MoPayments were about 3100. 6 Bed 3 bath SF. Shortly following closing I spent every penny I had on a reno while simultaneously making some other very poor business moves. Got out of the military so lost my source of income. Had 70k of materials sitting in my garage with no knowledge of renovation and no money to pay someone to do it. Got my hands dirty learned to do all of it, finished the reno, got the place rented for about 4k/month after carrying the note myself for nearly 9 months. Got behind on both of my mortgages. It was totally rented and I was living in a little shack I built in the garage around October 2010.

Got a job using skills from the military back on the mainland for 90k/year. Took it. Got back. Turns out I'm in foreclosure on both homes and that the bank "won't accept partial payments at this moment in time. full amount due only." What an ignorant boy I was.

Gave them the middle finger and decided to go back to Afghan as a contractor and show them who's wrong. Make 170/year rate over 8 months, caught my loans up entirely and was out of foreclosure. 2 months after I passed my 12 month threshhold for late mortgage payments began the streamline refinance process through Wells Fargo. Closed a month ago.

Current Situation:
Mortgage A Terms (Condo): 286k, 3.5%, 1300PITI, 450 HOA, Rented @ 1750, Comps showing 290kish.
Mortgage B Terms (SF Home):455k, 3.5%, 2025PI, FHA PMI@440, +misc for total of 2750/month PITI. Rented @4050, Comps showing 600kish.
Rent Totals: 5800
PITI Totals: (4050)
HOA Totals: (450)
Managment Fees: (580)
Misc: (150)
Net: 570

Other Considerations Following
Installment Loan: 2300 Balance @ 130/month (16%ish)
Installment Loan: 5400 Balance @ 250/month (16%ish)
Student loans (taken to consolidate and drop interest from revolving debt): 9.5k @ 0/month (6%)
Revolving Credit: 6.2k/19.7k @16.9%
Credit Score: Median Score @700.
Income: Gross @8950. Verifiable @0. After a couple more months actual will be @7750. Unemployment ends. Net will be @2520.
Liquid Funds: 7069

Now finally my questions:
1.) I understand I can get my home officially appraised and my PMI dropped from Mortgage B (FHA @455k). Has anyone done this? Are there any golden rules tricks I should know about? For me this would decrease Insurance Expenses @440/month.

2.) I've been reading about pooling my cash funds into a CD and borrowing against it @2%. This would be an excellent option for me to consolidate my Installment debt which is @16.9%. Can anyone shed the likely hood of that happening in today's Banking Environment?

3.) Does anyone see anything creative I can do to free up cash, decrease expenses (outside of raising rent or managing the property on my own. This is not an option as I'm living in Maryland and my properties are in Hawaii. I've maintained 100% occupancy with my current rental manager for the last 2 years as well. Switching agencies for a discounted management rate is not an option.), or aquire more money based strictly on my assets?

I'm excited to see what this board has to offer!

Thank you all in advance for your time and I look forward to talking to some of you.