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All Forum Posts by: Abdul Azeez

Abdul Azeez has started 82 posts and replied 465 times.

Post: Anyone buying and managing remotely?

Abdul AzeezPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Monroe Township, NJ
  • Posts 468
  • Votes 85

Look up turnkey investing.

Post: Seasoned investors do you buy Turn Key properties?

Abdul AzeezPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Monroe Township, NJ
  • Posts 468
  • Votes 85

so matt what are the options? I can tell you based on my experience that finding deals in nj market is difficult if I want to make a profit going in. Instead of sitting on sidelines And twiddling the thumb getting into tk investing is a better bet.

Post: Seasoned investors do you buy Turn Key properties?

Abdul AzeezPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Monroe Township, NJ
  • Posts 468
  • Votes 85

ok those seem advanced strategies. For someone financially astute, starting out and without a lot of time tk in SFR still seems a good place to invest.

Post: Seasoned investors do you buy Turn Key properties?

Abdul AzeezPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Monroe Township, NJ
  • Posts 468
  • Votes 85

what are types of tk are there? The tk provider will charge retail.

Post: Seasoned investors do you buy Turn Key properties?

Abdul AzeezPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Monroe Township, NJ
  • Posts 468
  • Votes 85
Originally posted by @Matt R.:
Originally posted by @Par Attaran:

So upon reading the recent Bigger Pockets article about "The truth about turn keys no one tells you"

it appears as if the majority of turn key buyers are experienced investors?

I always assumed this was the opposite. If you were experienced wouldn't you buy properties that haven't been rehabbed yet and not pay retail?   I figured Turn keys were for the novice investor who doesn't want to deal with anything but writing the check.....

I always assumed the way you orginally assumed if we are talking REI. Turnkey retail buyers are the least sophisticated, educated and skilled REI investors...thus the need for turnkey. Exceptions always exist and this primarly depends on what your definition of turnkey means.

 Matt - is that really true that they are least sophisticated and educated? I am fairly well educated with respect to be able to do investment analysis but still it seems interesting to consider turnkey given a) a full time demanding job and b) lack of good investment opportunities in my local market in NJ

Post: Memphis invest review

Abdul AzeezPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Monroe Township, NJ
  • Posts 468
  • Votes 85

Also I got prequalified and also talked to two of their client references who seemed extremely happy.

Post: Memphis invest review

Abdul AzeezPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Monroe Township, NJ
  • Posts 468
  • Votes 85

Mario - they need to know you are a serious investor. Getting prequalified through their approved lenders is a good step.

Post: Memphis invest review

Abdul AzeezPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Monroe Township, NJ
  • Posts 468
  • Votes 85

Dean - are you saying $20k is not my equity on the property if I put I down? Wha do you mean when you say I don't have equity?

Post: Memphis invest review

Abdul AzeezPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Monroe Township, NJ
  • Posts 468
  • Votes 85
Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @Abdul Azeez:

Caleb - I am talking to them currently but have not yet invested with them. I think they are a very professional firm based on my conversations but my concerns are the following:

1. They are very clear that there is an equal likelihood that your appraisal can come in lower than list price. While they say the appraisal is one person's opinion, that one person's opinion is what is going into the bank loan and I would consider it to be the market value. This is very concerning for me because I know you don't have built in equity going in with a TK provided but it the appraisal is lesser, are you not going in with negative equity which can only bite you in the back when you sell? Also, if this does happen, your down payment would need to be more. 

2. Property management fee is around 10% and 1 month charge for getting a tenant in or between tenants. It goes down to 9% when you have 5 or more with them. I think this may be ok.

3. There is no tenant placement guarantee. When I look at other TK providers, they guarantee a tenant in the door when the property closes or a minimum period after that during which if the tenant is not placed, there are some recourse. I do understand their vacancy rates are around 4% but is something to think about as to what happens if you buy a property that is unable to have a tenant placed for say two months.

4. I would ideally like to shop around for a mortgage lender but since they have existing relationships, I am not sure if I will have the chance to shop around for rates or if the lender who I work with would take me for a ride.

5. I am yet to see listings but my understanding is that due to the extent of rehab they do, the prices of the properties are much higher. I would be able to comment on this after I have a chance to see listings.

Just my 2 cents.

Regards.

 We can't have our cake and eat it to.

Those looking for a hassle free option should expect to pay for the service they are receiving.  Turnkey companies don't make anyone rich, they simply provide the arm chair investor a nice place to park their capital and earn a passive return.

 James - I am prepared to pay for the service; I just want to ensure I am not overpaying.

Post: Memphis invest review

Abdul AzeezPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Monroe Township, NJ
  • Posts 468
  • Votes 85
Originally posted by @Dean Letfus:

@Abdul Azeez that is the whole point of buying turnkey isn't it? You kiss away your equity in exchange for a completely passive option.  That is the way turnkeys work. They take all the equity and you get no hassles.  So with Memphis Invest, who are a class act, you are way better to buy their texas properties where there is a realistic chance of capital growth than pay retail in Memphis.  You are buying a tattoo not an investment property in Memphis

Dean - there seems to be a lot of disconnect on usage of the equity term. To clarify if you are buying at market price with 20 pct down payment thats your equity and I am fine with this. If you are buying at market price minus 10 percent you are making money going in and that's fine with me as well. What I am apprehensive about is buying at a price where your appraisal comes lower. This means you have negative equity and this is what I want to avoid.