Allow me to offer you a better performing DMM Strategy

Allow me to offer you a better performing DMM Strategy

Flipper/Rehabber 路 Wilton, CT 路 Member since 2015 路 4k+ posts 路 4k+ votes

Let me propose to you a slightly different method to approach your DMM/PPC/FB ads campaigns. 

First lets recap the "popular" marketing methods:

DMM, D4D, Bandit signs suck! Yes they suck. They are an inferior way of lead generation. I have yet to come across a person that says:

"OMG I love DMM, I love putting and managing 5 phone numbers to track and see which piece performs better. OMG I love when I get all these mailers back due to wrong addresses. And I love that I have to pay for lists, and filter these lists, and the most fun is.. the excitement to not make a mistake and filter that list wrong. And then omgosh it is so awesome to wait till the mailers drop and get 3000 angry phone calls yelling at me to remove them from the list, and explain to them how I found them...

Ohh and don't get me started on bandit signs. I love it to pollute my city with these signs, and put them on at 36 locations on a Friday evening just when the city closes and rush again to all these 36 locations to remove them Sunday late just before Monday starts."

Yes these methods SUCK man. Anyone that denies this is delusional.

Not only do they suck... do you know HOW many leads I get because my competitors do DMM and the receiver goes online to check out what this is about and you know what htey see online?

Same holds true for bandit signs. When someone drives down the road and see a board with We Buy Houses Call 1234567890. Do you really think they will take a picture when they are zooming down the road. DO you really think they remember the phone number? No

They will go online and type in "We buy houses in [city]"

Again guess who they will find!

Because we take over the first page of Google, we corner the online market! We get a ton of their marketing leads!

HOWEVER...  I get it. Not everyone ranks #1 and people sometimes are forced to do these methods. SO...

If you HAVE to use them... just make sure you have a credible website running and work on SEO while you do these inferior type of marketing.

Now consider this:

Normal DMM campaigns have a 0.1% conversion.

My DMM campaigs had a 60% - 80% conversion.

"NO WAY!!"

well yes way.

The only thing I did differently is this:

While everyone tries to cram their reasons why the receiver of the mailer should sell their house to them (the sender). I only tell them to visit my website!

A little mailer is simply too small to put everything on it to convince anyone that

  1. you are credible
  2. they should sell their house, benefits, ease of sale

Not efficient at all. No mailer can ever convert as well as a fully pimped out website can!

My website has about a 15% conversion rate. How good are you in math?

Lets say I sent out 100 mailers. Instead of trying to convince anyone to sell their house to me, I just tell them:

"hey if you have a house and it is giving you a bit of a headache, I have some awesome information on my site that could completely help you out. See you there".

Out of the 100 people that get the card and look at them, 70 will visit my website. (and some actually thank me for sending them the mailer).

You know why people get so angry receiving DMM? It is not (just) because you invaded their space. It is because you invaded their space with a very rude message. You telling/asking them to sell their house is an insult. It is offensive! "Does it look like I am in trouble? does it look like I need cash?" You are insinuating they are in a financial rot. And that is offensive. THAT is why people get so mad.

But by just telling them that if they like to sell their house or if they are a bit stressed about their house, to just come visit me and see if we can make things better. BOOM, totally different reaction.

Here they see a great website and because my site has a 15% conversion rate, 15% out of these 70 people will fill in the form.

That is 10.5 people!

So that is a 10% conversion rate doing it this way vs a 0.1% conversion rate doing it the standard way.

Some additional tips. Put a picture of you on it. If you are a female even better. You want traffic to your site even if they do not want to sell.

Here is why.

If you really have a great site, you WILL be remembered. Example... I built cool robotics for NASA. When they see that, they WILL remember it not because it is impressive, it is just different. If you are a stay at home mom, well guess what. That is impressive too,... more so than being a NASA scientist.

People can connect WAY more and identify way more with you than with someone working at an odd (yet cool) job.

You have to make your site MEMORABLE, Credible, Unique, with character, with attitude and very human!

Here is why.

Even if they do not need to tell their house but they are curious enough to visit your site, and your site just identifies with them. If they ever have a friend that need to sell, they WILL say "ohh wait, you should look up these guys..."

So the perfect Marketing campaign is not ONLY about targeting the perfect audience. It is also targeting the indirect audience.

People often see marketing as a very disconnected method with method/niche specific outreach. Very wrong.

Marketing is dynamic, clever complicated. You need to be smart, think outside the box.

Fine print... I no longer do DMM. I have not done any marketing in 2 years. We rank #1 so we stopped all paid marketing efforts long ago. But when I was doing it I got amazing results!

Fineprint #2. I HATE WHOLESLING GAAAAADAMN IT

I am so happy I don't have to do it anymore

And I am SO sad I am picking it up again..

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  • Specialist 路 Purcellville, VA 路 Member since 2015 路 1k+ posts 路 841 votes
    7y

    Good stuff, man!

  • Investor 路 Kauai, HI 路 Member since 2017 路 65 posts 路 43 votes
    7y

    good stuff.  Your logo is pretty cool as well.

  • Flipper/Rehabber 路 Wilton, CT 路 Member since 2015 路 4k+ posts 路 4k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Dominik Makaneole:

    good stuff.  Your logo is pretty cool as well.

     And you Sir are kinder than any words can attempt to describe.

    FINALLY someone mentioned my friggin logo!

    Thank you man!!

  • Flipper/Rehabber 路 Wilton, CT 路 Member since 2015 路 4k+ posts 路 4k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Barry Pekin:

    Good stuff, man!

    Thank you Mister Barry!! 

  • Specialist 路 Purcellville, VA 路 Member since 2015 路 1k+ posts 路 841 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Dominik Makaneole:

    good stuff.  Your logo is pretty cool as well.

     @Jerryll Noorden, I've always thought that.  I feel bad for not mentioning it.  :(  Hahaha

  • Flipper/Rehabber 路 Wilton, CT 路 Member since 2015 路 4k+ posts 路 4k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Barry Pekin:
    Originally posted by @Dominik Makaneole:

    good stuff.  Your logo is pretty cool as well.

     @Jerryll Noorden, I've always thought that.  I feel bad for not mentioning it.  :(  Hahaha



    Too little too late!

     I want a divorce. 

  • Hardin County, KY 路 Member since 2019 路 53 posts 路 16 votes
    7y

    Dude, you are a beast! Thanks for keeping it 馃挴!

  • Flipper/Rehabber 路 Wilton, CT 路 Member since 2015 路 4k+ posts 路 4k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Omar Bunch:

    Dude, you are a beast! Thanks for keeping it 馃挴!

    Don Omar!!

    Thank you my man! Always keeping it  reeeaarl

  • Rental Property Investor 路 New Castle, DE 路 Member since 2016 路 376 posts 路 158 votes
    7y

    Thank you for the read!!!  Has my hamster wheel churning LOL  I've started mailing out to my driving for dollars properties, but am working on a website now.  I'll have to connect with you in the very near future :)

  • Flipper/Rehabber 路 Wilton, CT 路 Member since 2015 路 4k+ posts 路 4k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Cassandra Sifford:

    Thank you for the read!!!  Has my hamster wheel churning LOL  I've started mailing out to my driving for dollars properties, but am working on a website now.  I'll have to connect with you in the very near future :)

    Why wait!

    If you are working on your site now I can give you pointers. Better you have a solid direction now vs. working on your site for weeks and then having to start over because you are not a carrot member for example!

    ;)

  • Rental Property Investor 路 New Castle, DE 路 Member since 2016 路 376 posts 路 158 votes
    7y

    LOL ... I tried to create my website on Wix, but it's confusing and I'm getting frustrated.  Let me check out your website and get back to you when I'm back from vacation.  I appreciate you reaching out to me.

  • Miami, FL 路 Member since 2018 路 17 posts 路 3 votes
    6y

    @Jerryll Noorden wow, this is fire...

    At last I read of someone speaking the truth.

    I am starting out and with no money, in a new city, and with no job, oh and in a new country (USA)...

    So you can imagine this is a tough situation.

    However I'm not playing victim here, I left my M.D. title on the shelf to pursue a better life, I knew I will face situations like this....

    And Yes... I spent 7 years on something that I really didn't want to do.

    But hey, at least I am living a happier life and I know I will make this work

    Now, coming back to the main point.

    For someone starting out like me and in this situation, reading about bandit signs, dmm, and all that is quite discouraging.

    Everyone saying that you have to do it while they openly admit about the TERRIBLE conversion rates.

    That gets me thinking,"there must be a better way"

    I would say that I have an advantage over many of my competitors and that is... "a powerful story", my background, something that people can connect to, wether that is on a VSL, a website or a letter, but it makes me human, just like them.

    With mistakes, feelings, fears and aspirations

    Now why do I say all of this?

    Well, the main point is that I really see opportunity in doing other strategies in which I believe in. For this I would like to THANK YOU for your post.

    Not only has it encouraged me to focus on online strategies but it has reassured me that the things I learned so far from some marketing gurus are always applicable to ANY business and you can start from scratch.

    Anyways, thank you again and I would LOVE to connect with you, since I have seen that you add a lot of true value to the community at BP and your posts are always packed with the truth...

    Cheers man, stay safe and thank you

  • Flipper/Rehabber 路 Wilton, CT 路 Member since 2015 路 4k+ posts 路 4k+ votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Sebastian Najera:

    @Jerryll Noorden wow, this is fire...

    At last I read of someone speaking the truth.

    I am starting out and with no money, in a new city, and with no job, oh and in a new country (USA)...

    So you can imagine this is a tough situation.

    However I'm not playing victim here, I left my M.D. title on the shelf to pursue a better life, I knew I will face situations like this....

    And Yes... I spent 7 years on something that I really didn't want to do.

    But hey, at least I am living a happier life and I know I will make this work

    Now, coming back to the main point.

    For someone starting out like me and in this situation, reading about bandit signs, dmm, and all that is quite discouraging.

    Everyone saying that you have to do it while they openly admit about the TERRIBLE conversion rates.

    That gets me thinking,"there must be a better way"

    I would say that I have an advantage over many of my competitors and that is... "a powerful story", my background, something that people can connect to, wether that is on a VSL, a website or a letter, but it makes me human, just like them.

    With mistakes, feelings, fears and aspirations

    Now why do I say all of this?

    Well, the main point is that I really see opportunity in doing other strategies in which I believe in. For this I would like to THANK YOU for your post.

    Not only has it encouraged me to focus on online strategies but it has reassured me that the things I learned so far from some marketing gurus are always applicable to ANY business and you can start from scratch.

    Anyways, thank you again and I would LOVE to connect with you, since I have seen that you add a lot of true value to the community at BP and your posts are always packed with the truth...

    Cheers man, stay safe and thank you

     Dude this is insane.

    We are in SUCH similar situations. Check this out

    I also am in the USA as a foreigner.

    I also had a fancy little title, and i too hung up that title and started this.

    I too found that DMM made no sense. And seriously?! Everyone knows DMM has a crappy conversion rate and they dare argue with me against all logic all proof and all common sense to defend DMM. It is truly frustrating that no matter how much you try to explain it, how much proof you show... they just don't get it. 


    So to avoid me telling you or anyone what to do and what not to do I will just tell you this.

    Use logic.

    Why spending money on a strategy that has a 0.5% chance to get success? Yeah man, do your own research but if you want my (not so) humble opinion?

    Look into SEO, Facebook ads, and PPC, or anything else honestly, that has a much higher conversion rate than 60%

    When you find that strategy, milk it, cultivate it and turn it into something that works for you.

    Listen man. You will be fighting the odds. Not sure if you have an accent but I do, and it is a huge disadvantage. So you need to focus severely on credibility. You need to look extremely credible without it looking like you are trying.

    It is credibility that will get you the forms filled and get you leads. So come up with ways. put yourself into the seller shoes and extract every possible reason they may have not to choose you and be sure you address those issues before they even enter the sellers head. That is a huge secret of mine.

    I constantly come up with strategies that will erase any and all possible reasons a seller may not want to pick me or choose me within 5 seconds of them landing on my site.

    You do this successfully, and you will have made it!

    Connect anytime man!

  • Flipper/Rehabber 路 Wilton, CT 路 Member since 2015 路 4k+ posts 路 4k+ votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Cassandra Sifford:

    LOL ... I tried to create my website on Wix, but it's confusing and I'm getting frustrated.  Let me check out your website and get back to you when I'm back from vacation.  I appreciate you reaching out to me.

     Hey,  never saw this. How did it go? If you need help just ask here and I promise I will be an open book!

  • Miami, FL 路 Member since 2018 路 17 posts 路 3 votes
    6y

    @Jerryll Noorden talking about similar situations, my wife's name is Jess lol

  • Winston Salem, NC 路 Member since 2017 路 201 posts 路 56 votes
    6y
    It isn't about how many deals people are doing it is about how much per deal. In my circle I deal with people doing over 2000 wholesale deals a year and 700 flips a year. I haven't reached that level yet.I just do over 400 deals a year through various strategies .I do more double closings than wholesale deals. Making 35 to 40k per deal. Deals are easy..having real buyers is what gets people. Only time i look at deals now is when I help people, your visual learners. Companies have been approaching me to help their company, trainees. Not rocket science. Just running on platforms listing how to do stuff doesn't work for many. Plus I do bonus sessions at some guru trainings they invite me to..I did close to 250 deals my first year. I kept it simple.my first deal took me 10 hours from getting deal to buyer, earnest money..I see people doing 10 deals a year. When people learn how to leverage rather than wanting to personally look at everything then add a job on top done deal for many. I have people run comps all that stuff..doesn't matter if you are doing 2000 plus deals or 10 same thing . then knowing how to have multiple ways to structure a deal, offers. Many look at 10 to get maybe get 3,4. Many use same one tired strategy .it is sad
  • Rental Property Investor 路 Abilene, TX 路 Member since 2019 路 44 posts 路 25 votes
    6y

    @Jerryll Noorden This post could not have been more timely. I literally dropped my original web hosting guy after Jerryll, true to his word, let me talk to him and find out what my website needed. Now I am working on my carrot site and am talking to rei Printmail about sending mailers soon. If all goes well I will report back but man am I glad I met Jerryll. He is a wellspring if knowledge. And also, investor carrot has the best site layouts compared to what I was using. 

  • Flipper/Rehabber 路 Wilton, CT 路 Member since 2015 路 4k+ posts 路 4k+ votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Riley Holt:

    @Jerryll Noorden This post could not have been more timely. I literally dropped my original web hosting guy after Jerryll, true to his word, let me talk to him and find out what my website needed. Now I am working on my carrot site and am talking to rei Printmail about sending mailers soon. If all goes well I will report back but man am I glad I met Jerryll. He is a wellspring if knowledge. And also, investor carrot has the best site layouts compared to what I was using. 

     Wow man, you give me a lot of credit. Thank you! Yeah man. I am very eager to know how it all works. Everyone knows by now I HATE DMM but if people are going to use it anyways, at least here are my personal pointers and hints to increase success with it.

    Word of advice again...

    ONLY start DMM when your site is credible. Let me know when you are at that stage and I will look over your website for you... making sure it is credible. 

    Remember only ONE thing gets your forms filled. It is not DMM, not SEO, not reaching 1000000 sellers... it is CREDIBILITY and nothing else!

    So focus heavily on credibility and also remember, ... more is not better!!

    But yeah let me know and i will check it out for you! Excited to know how your DMM will perform with a credibility pimped out website!

    BTW, what is your market?

  • Flipper/Rehabber 路 Wilton, CT 路 Member since 2015 路 4k+ posts 路 4k+ votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Sebastian Najera:

    @Jerryll Noorden talking about similar situations, my wife's name is Jess lol

     You are POOPING me!!!

    No way!! I have to tell Jess that. If we ever meet up for dinner we have to be sure not to take the wrong Jess home!

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