Sell price in function of rent price.

Sell price in function of rent price.

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The Price-to-Rent ratio in the city of Baltimore-Maryland is 13,69. With that number in mind, I am wondering if it will be feasible to do the following.

1.  Buy a house for $400.000 near a university. I have seen some houses offered at this price, near some universities in the Maryland area.

2. Invest about $200.000 in order to get inside that house, 5 bedrooms each one of them with private bath, and also improving kitchen, living room, laundry room, gardens, roofs, sidings, floors, etc., until everything looks nice and new.

3. Renting each one of these 5 bedroom-bathroom units, by $1.200 a month, to 5 students. That numbers makes a $72.000 income per year.  As I have seen in some places, it´s hard to find such kind of housing near universities. I also saw that the few houses modified in that way, keeps rented the whole year.

4. Here appears again the Price-to-Rent ratio, to consider selling the house to some investor. According to that ratio, the ask price could be something near $985.680 (ratio =13,69 x  year income=$72.000). 

The question is.  Will it be possibly that somebody pay such a price (near $1mm) for buying the house once it gets 5 contracts for the whole year, in a neighborhood where the non-remodeled and non-rented houses can be bought by $400.000 like the one of the example?

In other words, the commercial price of the house can be multiplied by 2,5 doing what is explained here?

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Scott TrenchPro Member
Rental Property Investor · Denver, CO · Member since 2014 · 2k+ posts · 6k+ votes
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Quote from @Celso Agustìn Solano Pachón:

The Price-to-Rent ratio in the city of Baltimore-Maryland is 13,69. With that number in mind, I am wondering if it will be feasible to do the following.

1.  Buy a house for $400.000 near a university. I have seen some houses offered at this price, near some universities in the Maryland area.

2. Invest about $200.000 in order to get inside that house, 5 bedrooms each one of them with private bath, and also improving kitchen, living room, laundry room, gardens, roofs, sidings, floors, etc., until everything looks nice and new.

3. Renting each one of these 5 bedroom-bathroom units, by $1.200 a month, to 5 students. That numbers makes a $72.000 income per year.  As I have seen in some places, it´s hard to find such kind of housing near universities. I also saw that the few houses modified in that way, keeps rented the whole year.

4. Here appears again the Price-to-Rent ratio, to consider selling the house to some investor. According to that ratio, the ask price could be something near $985.680 (ratio =13,69 x  year income=$72.000). 

The question is.  Will it be possibly that somebody pay such a price (near $1mm) for buying the house once it gets 5 contracts for the whole year, in a neighborhood where the non-remodeled and non-rented houses can be bought by $400.000 like the one of the example?

In other words, the commercial price of the house can be multiplied by 2,5 doing what is explained here?

Great question. The “rent by the room” strategy is viable, often works well in college towns, but will create additional expenses and headaches over renting to a single tenant.

so, nothing wrong with your approach, just discount the rent by a little more vacancy and factor in more expenses and damages with five college kids.

To your second question, no, the increase in income will not increase the value of the property. 

residential property, like single family houses and 2-4 unit properties are valued based on comps - one 5 bd 3 ba house will be valued the same as a similar property nearby, regardless of the differences in current income they generate.

you have to move into commercial property, or larger multifamily to start seeing valuations based on cap rates.

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  • Scott TrenchPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Denver, CO · Member since 2014 · 2k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    4y
    Quote from @Celso Agustìn Solano Pachón:

    The Price-to-Rent ratio in the city of Baltimore-Maryland is 13,69. With that number in mind, I am wondering if it will be feasible to do the following.

    1.  Buy a house for $400.000 near a university. I have seen some houses offered at this price, near some universities in the Maryland area.

    2. Invest about $200.000 in order to get inside that house, 5 bedrooms each one of them with private bath, and also improving kitchen, living room, laundry room, gardens, roofs, sidings, floors, etc., until everything looks nice and new.

    3. Renting each one of these 5 bedroom-bathroom units, by $1.200 a month, to 5 students. That numbers makes a $72.000 income per year.  As I have seen in some places, it´s hard to find such kind of housing near universities. I also saw that the few houses modified in that way, keeps rented the whole year.

    4. Here appears again the Price-to-Rent ratio, to consider selling the house to some investor. According to that ratio, the ask price could be something near $985.680 (ratio =13,69 x  year income=$72.000). 

    The question is.  Will it be possibly that somebody pay such a price (near $1mm) for buying the house once it gets 5 contracts for the whole year, in a neighborhood where the non-remodeled and non-rented houses can be bought by $400.000 like the one of the example?

    In other words, the commercial price of the house can be multiplied by 2,5 doing what is explained here?

    Great question. The “rent by the room” strategy is viable, often works well in college towns, but will create additional expenses and headaches over renting to a single tenant.

    so, nothing wrong with your approach, just discount the rent by a little more vacancy and factor in more expenses and damages with five college kids.

    To your second question, no, the increase in income will not increase the value of the property. 

    residential property, like single family houses and 2-4 unit properties are valued based on comps - one 5 bd 3 ba house will be valued the same as a similar property nearby, regardless of the differences in current income they generate.

    you have to move into commercial property, or larger multifamily to start seeing valuations based on cap rates.

  • Chris SeveneyBusiness Member
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    Investor · VA · Member since 2015 · 21k+ posts · 19k+ votes
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    @Celso Agustìn Solano Pachón

    No. A single family is not comped based off of the rent it gets in. Commercial properties 5+ units yes but not on single family homes. Your comps would be other five beds in the area.

    No lender would finance it and typically no investor will underwrite it as 5 different tenants.

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  • Real Estate Agent · Washington DC · Member since 2016 · 847 posts · 656 votes
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    Quote from @Celso Agustìn Solano Pachón:

    The Price-to-Rent ratio in the city of Baltimore-Maryland is 13,69. With that number in mind, I am wondering if it will be feasible to do the following.

    1.  Buy a house for $400.000 near a university. I have seen some houses offered at this price, near some universities in the Maryland area.

    2. Invest about $200.000 in order to get inside that house, 5 bedrooms each one of them with private bath, and also improving kitchen, living room, laundry room, gardens, roofs, sidings, floors, etc., until everything looks nice and new.

    3. Renting each one of these 5 bedroom-bathroom units, by $1.200 a month, to 5 students. That numbers makes a $72.000 income per year.  As I have seen in some places, it´s hard to find such kind of housing near universities. I also saw that the few houses modified in that way, keeps rented the whole year.

    4. Here appears again the Price-to-Rent ratio, to consider selling the house to some investor. According to that ratio, the ask price could be something near $985.680 (ratio =13,69 x  year income=$72.000). 

    The question is.  Will it be possibly that somebody pay such a price (near $1mm) for buying the house once it gets 5 contracts for the whole year, in a neighborhood where the non-remodeled and non-rented houses can be bought by $400.000 like the one of the example?

    In other words, the commercial price of the house can be multiplied by 2,5 doing what is explained here?


     It’s a fantastic strategy for cash flow! but won’t change the underlying cash flow. But honestly at the point in the market your probably better chasing cash flow than application anyway.

  • Investor · Las Vegas, NV · Member since 2013 · 8k+ posts · 10k+ votes
    4y

    Imagine you have a $200k house. And you rent it to somebody (who may or may not be related/friend/co-woker). They agree to pay $10,000/mo rent for a year. Now try to sell that house for $1.5million using your numbers. 

    At closing give the renter $200k and it’s a win win LOSE. But it’s the same thing you’re proposing. 

    Ps. There is no city-wide or likely even zip code wide “rent to price ratio” it doesn’t exist. You’d have an area made up 100% of identical properties, in identical shape, the identical distance from good and bad things, etc etc etc. 

  • Ozzy SirimsiBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 782 votes
    4y

    It is not be easy to rent bedroom+bathroom combo for $1200 constantly for sure. House needs to be really well done and even then might not be easy.

    Most students are not going to pay that for a shared kitchen, roommate situation, and most likely house will not be appraised to that level.

  • Property Manager · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    4y

    Sounds like a solid strategy, but make sure you're properly licensed with Baltimore City. Also you may want to check your asking rent per room, $1200/mo sounds a little aggressive given that full townhouses are only renting for a few hundred dollars more.

    Good luck!

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